56 + earrings brooch sample 1831

[redbor]

Yes, there is one sample , but not on the brooch - and to attach to the eye pins, and for some reason there is no maker's mark .
 And right questions - where the maker's mark , and why not sample on earrings ? Why not sample at the very brooch ? ... and so on.
In principle , it is now possible to apply to the Assay , maybe you are lucky - enough gold , then put the sample . <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

[U_Z]

Сообщение от redbor; 2732731 "

Yes, there is one sample , but not on the brooch - and to attach to the eye pins, and for some reason there is no maker's mark .
And right questions - where the maker's mark , and why not sample on earrings ? Why not sample at the very brooch ? ... and so on.
In principle , it is now possible to apply to the Assay , maybe you are lucky - enough gold , then put the sample .

Yes, everything is there.

Brooch (see Appendix . Photo )
- Barrette - stamp 56 trial ,
- The needle - maker's mark /workshop + mark of St. Petersburg .
Very often, the objects themselves are not stigmatized because they are fragile and more.

earrings:
- Barrette /joint part - stamp 56 + sample maker's mark /workshop.

Photos and date stamps on Postnikova .

We obtain an approximate /optimistic dating - 1847-1864 years. By the way , the stigma of " coat of arms of St. Petersburg in the round " set in the early 1870s .
More precise dating is possible in the case of reading the text labels on the box with the data store /retailer or decrypt the stigma master.

PS: If it were not for the stigma would be sure that the object has been created in the years 1890-1900 . Right miracles , and only <! - ~ 1 ~ -> .

[тандем]

Сообщение от yasuna69; 2725591 "

Dear colleagues!
Offered to buy such a garniturchik , at a price , however, above the clouds . However, interest in sports does not sleep - and the original is it? Earrings weigh 4.3 and 4.2 grams, 7.8 gram brooch . Marked " 56" found only in the eye of brooches , nowhere else . According to legend - family values, the transmitted over generations , the native case , the label on the box dear . The label with great difficulty and make out the figures - 1831 . Besides fasteners like all even. Brand, however, is embarrassing.

Сообщение от U_Z; 2734241 "

Yes, everything is there.

Brooch (see Appendix . Photo )
- Barrette - stamp 56 trial ,
- The needle - maker's mark /workshop + mark of St. Petersburg .
Very often, the objects themselves are not stigmatized because they are fragile and more.

earrings:
- Barrette /joint part - stamp 56 + sample maker's mark /workshop.

So is there or not! Occupation * Jernej !
yasuna69 you blind ? ? Or U_Z in the course of the stigma poses ? ?
Poshar'te in a box - can find a love letter to Lieutenant Rzhevsky <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от tandem

So is there or not!

Here here in the photos showing stigma.

[redbor]

Сообщение от U_Z; 2734241 "

Yes, everything is there.
Brooch (see Appendix . Pictured) : - barrette - stamp 56 trial - the needle - maker's mark /workshop + mark of St. Petersburg .
Earrings: - barrette /joint part - stamp 56 + sample maker's mark /workshop .

Yes, it is! Wow you make out ! And why are the owner says that no stamps ? <! - ~ 9 ~ ->

The presence of brands and master samples , which he should have , confirmation of the antiquarian . Not before 1847.
But the price , all the same - is not adequate . <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

[uriart]

Much to my regret, in that book I was hoping for , but very vaguely reminiscent of a couple of samples.
But when I was at the " Pre-Raphaelite " in the Pushkin Museum named after Pushkin , I managed to sneak a picture that is very eloquently in favor of the headset which is obsuzhdaetsya.Takoy same design , the same insert ( corals) . This design is borrowed from the ancient Greeks and Romans.
And scans from the book will be posted later.

[natalia-v]

Сообщение от uriart

I managed to sneak a picture that is very eloquently in favor of the headset which is obsuzhdaetsya.Takoy same design , the same insert ( corals) .

uriart, given you an example - a classic example of European fashion jewelry 1860 , ie Here the circles with a large center , " rosette " , which, as you correctly pointed out were borrowed from ancient times. But at the same time - hanging earrings , long , coral inserts - honest cabochons , fairly fixed in Krapane . ( The lady in the portrait is not only wealthy , she is also a fashion !) .
The similarity with the problem in the same suite , in my opinion, not at all , and not only because of unexplained coral beads , but also because of the eclectic and the " three-dimensional " (volume ) in the design , which appeared much later in jewelry 1860 .

[uriart]

natalia-v, and the first and last sets made in the ancient spirit.

And if you do not like the first.
Then I'm sorry.
The taste and color ......

And the fact that he is a genuine and personal time, I have no doubt!

Another thing is the price.
Yes it is high.

But then again.
This is a private matter for the buyer.

[natalia-v]

Сообщение от uriart

And if you do not like the first. Then I'm sorry . The taste and color ......

Yes, of course I do not like !
Just not in this case -that.
Ornaments do not exist on their own - that's got a jeweler and navayal . They are attached on the one hand, to the current mode ( in hairstyle , clothes, etc.) , and on the other hand - to technological possibilities.
In the period stated by the author - and this is the time of Pushkin - hair and neck left open neck and shoulders, and to emphasize the beauty of all this - wore long , pendant earrings, mobile.
And these kutsevatye , well with what they 'll wear ?
And as the technology is made ​​? How, in your opinion, is made thin-walled base ( obviously honed to a series ) and secured bowl?

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Сообщение от uriart

natalia-v, and the first and last sets are made in the spirit of ancient

Yeah well what antiquity out there?
Yes there buckle 1900 <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

[sergejnowo]

a couple of examples yuvelirki whom time Ebeya :