Gurzhdiev, Georgy.

[Chvedovski]

Heraclitus believed that art imitates the beauty of nature. According to Plato objects - shadows of ideas, art is imitating things and is a reflection of the reflected (shadow shadow), and therefore the lower the phenomenon. Access to it in an ideal state should be limited (hymns to the gods).

For Aristotle, art - an imitation of reality (mimesis). Two reasons have made art: 1) imitation found in people with childhood and 2) products follow all fun. "What we are really looking with disgust, subtle portrayal of we view with pleasure" (Aristotel. Poetics. IV, in 1448.). Aristotle justifies the principles of artistic truth: imitation plays are not random events, and probable (not facts, but what could happen, not what has happened, but rather probable cases). Poetry depicts the likely chain of events (even if they never happened.) History also plays the individual facts and events, often only incidentally related. According to Aristotle art contains more philosophical and serious element than history, poetry, stories above. These provisions - the first attempt to reveal the specifics of art versus science. Nothing in the universe does not arise spontaneously all is the root cause, subject to the laws. >

[George]

SW.
Samvel could explain the intention of presenting information about the gig?

Thank you.

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Сообщение от George; 2499091"

Vs. Samvel could explain the intention of presenting information about the gig?
Thank you.

A few months ago, he came to me at night and said. Samvel jan, after my sixth last stay on your planet earth, I noticed that the local trehmozgnye being completely forgotten GIG-U. There is a forum called Artinvestment, and you can as long you are there and could put in a good word for me, especially since I have a whole chapter about art. And what he said at last ....... Now, listen and try to put in the appropriate part of your total available for use at the time I really practical advice.

This is my practical advice is that if for some reason you, especially in the near future, would actually have to exist among trehmozgnyh beings of this planet Earth did you like - I mean, in the near future, because, as the very existence of your favorite trehmozgnyh beings, so and everything is already fixed external conditions for their normal existence suschestvenskogo often there are reborn - and if you have any business there, characteristic of every class-conscious trehmozgnomu fact, it is this case which basically aims to achieve any benefits for the surrounding creatures and the implementation of which depends in part on their own - then you always, no matter what the public of modern civilization is not happening, if you have to meet in the other, as they say, "circle", in which you will be in favor of such a case with many modern types of Gdańsk - be sure and without fail them very, very careful, and take any actions required to establish good relations with them.

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Why against them should be so careful at all for you so that you can better imagine and fully understand these types there the sovremennovoznikshih, I must necessarily touch upon two facts clearly come to light there.

The first of them is the fact that because of the same abnormal conditions found there suschestvenskogo ordinary existence and through emergent and existing there "ephemeral-bloated" hard-core ideas of this notorious art, and these representatives of art gradually preconceived ideas and concepts there the other trehmozgnyh beings envelops, as I said, non-existent halo and thus automatically acquire them undeserved credibility, so that all your other favorites in everything and always reckon with their views, as if all completely undeniable.

The second follows from the fact that these types of modern novovoznikshie there, molding a becomes the owner of the relevant domestic availability, facilitating them consciously on their part so easily become a slave to another as they are in themselves, because only occasionally prevailing external conditions, can and to become the most bitter enemies of the other.

That's why I advise you to be very careful with them, not to have a number of these for themselves enemies and thereby create for themselves in the face of serious obstacles to the implementation of the planned you cause. So, our dear Hassine, most "the feature of" my advice to you is that if you really have to exist among the beings of the planet Earth and collide with these representatives of contemporary art, the first thing is you must know what to tell them the truth in the face of ever should not be.

Deliver you from this is your destiny.

Of all righteousness, they are very, very offended and hurt by this almost always starts their hostility toward others.

So the earth types must always speak in person only such that can "tickle" in them are necessarily crystallized impact properties of the organ Kundabufera which I have already enumerated, namely, "envy", "pride", "pride", "vanity", " falsity, "etc.

And in ways tickling without missing effect on the psyche of your unfortunate favorites, are, as I noticed when I was there, among others, the following:

If a person has any of these representatives of art like a crocodile's face, then you're sure to tell him that he looks like, no more and no less, as the bird of paradise.

If one of them is stupid like a cork, say that his mind is like a mind of Pythagoras.

If any of his act positively, "the chief idiot," you tell him about this case even the great cunning Lucifer could not think of anything better.

If, for all his outward appearance, you can clearly conclude that it is the carrier of several such there the disease, due to which he daily definitely more and more rotten, you are expressing surprise on his face, asked him:

"Tell me, please, how you have a secret that always looks like a young man, whom they say," it is the blood with milk "," etc., etc., but remember only one thing - do not tell the truth.

Although both should be done with all the creatures of this planet at all, but it is especially important for these representatives of all branches of contemporary art.

Having said that, Akhun with affectation, like affectation Zamoskvoretskaya matchmakers at the wedding cvoih clients or the owners of the trendy shops of Paris, sitting in the so-called "haylayfnyh" cafe, began to tidy curls his tail. Then sounded the melody
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Dear Magnolia, I think you overestimate my ability

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[artcol]

Сообщение от Samvel

A few months ago, he came to me at night and said. Samvel jan, after my sixth last stay on your planet earth, I noticed that the local trehmozgnye being completely forgotten GIG-U. There is a forum called Artinvestment, and you can as long you are there and could put in a good word for me, especially since I have a whole chapter about art. And what he said at last ....... Now, listen and try to put in the appropriate part of your total available for use at the time I really practical advice.

This is my practical advice is that if for some reason you, especially in the near future, would actually have to exist among trehmozgnyh beings of this planet Earth did you like - I mean, in the near future, because, as the very existence of your favorite trehmozgnyh beings, so and everything is already fixed external conditions for their normal existence suschestvenskogo often there are reborn - and if you have any business there, characteristic of every class-conscious trehmozgnomu fact, it is this case which basically aims to achieve any benefits for the surrounding creatures and the implementation of which depends in part on their own - then you always, no matter what the public of modern civilization is not happening, if you have to meet in the other, as they say, "circle", in which you will be in favor of such a case with many modern types of Gdańsk - be sure and without fail them very, very careful, and take any actions required to establish good relations with them.

Читать дальше... 

Why against them should be so careful at all for you so that you can better imagine and fully understand these types there the sovremennovoznikshih, I must necessarily touch upon two facts clearly come to light there.

The first of them is the fact that because of the same abnormal conditions found there suschestvenskogo ordinary existence and through emergent and existing there "ephemeral-bloated" hard-core ideas of this notorious art, and these representatives of art gradually preconceived ideas and concepts there the other trehmozgnyh beings envelops, as I said, non-existent halo and thus automatically acquire them undeserved credibility, so that all your other favorites in everything and always reckon with their views, as if all completely undeniable.

The second follows from the fact that these types of modern novovoznikshie there, molding a becomes the owner of the relevant domestic availability, facilitating them consciously on their part so easily become a slave to another as they are in themselves, because only occasionally prevailing external conditions, can and to become the most bitter enemies of the other.

That's why I advise you to be very careful with them, not to have a number of these for themselves enemies and thereby create for themselves in the face of serious obstacles to the implementation of the planned you cause. So, our dear Hassine, most "the feature of" my advice to you is that if you really have to exist among the beings of the planet Earth and collide with these representatives of contemporary art, the first thing is you must know what to tell them the truth in the face of ever should not be.

Deliver you from this is your destiny.

Of all righteousness, they are very, very offended and hurt by this almost always starts their hostility toward others.

So the earth types must always speak in person only such that can "tickle" in them are necessarily crystallized impact properties of the organ Kundabufera which I have already enumerated, namely, "envy", "pride", "pride", "vanity", " falsity, "etc.

And in ways tickling without missing effect on the psyche of your unfortunate favorites, are, as I noticed when I was there, among others, the following:

If a person has any of these representatives of art like a crocodile's face, then you're sure to tell him that he looks like, no more and no less, as the bird of paradise.

If one of them is stupid like a cork, say that his mind is like a mind of Pythagoras.

If any of his act positively, "the chief idiot," you tell him about this case even the great cunning Lucifer could not think of anything better.

If, for all his outward appearance, you can clearly conclude that it is the carrier of several such there the disease, due to which he daily definitely more and more rotten, you are expressing surprise on his face, asked him:

"Tell me, please, how you have a secret that always looks like a young man, whom they say," it is the blood with milk "," etc., etc., but remember only one thing - do not tell the truth.

Although both should be done with all the creatures of this planet at all, but it is especially important for these representatives of all branches of contemporary art.

Having said that, Akhun with affectation, like affectation Zamoskvoretskaya matchmakers at the wedding cvoih clients or the owners of the trendy shops of Paris, sitting in the so-called "haylayfnyh" cafe, began to tidy curls his tail. Then sounded the melody
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Dear Magnolia, I think you overestimate my ability

Samvel, a compilation or derivative work?

Special thanks for the music.

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Samvel, a compilation or derivative work?

My first four lines, the rest of GI
Gurdjieff in the original.

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[Магнолия]

Samvel, are you familiar with the materials, "Stalin and Gurdjieff knew each other well."
Type in Google "Gurdjieff and Stalin."

I think that if at the beginning of the twentieth century, Russia sent Gurdjieff, not Karelin, a lot would have gone in a different direction.
Your opinion?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBuXlJRdiKc

[Самвел]

Magnolia, I think you should all start with a clean lista.Nado to do their job and not to interfere in the debate, such as the fool. We should not pay attention to all the insults, giggling, and just write about what you are interested in and what you do know. Nothing is easy, even in our communication is difficult. Of course all too horoshi.K unfortunately not yet learned how to communicate, and learn to think, so is probably a chelovek.Znaete insulted me too, can say wiped his feet. Of course I was not myself. I am 5 years old on the forum, you can tell from the first day, and I hope not only some nonsense talked and discussed and when the young man had just appeared online poke you as a baby and none of the Administration, not to mention the community does not respond, then involuntarily ask yourself. Then who am I takoy.krome like a jerk, for you do not even no one stood up, and after much talking, talking to each other nice words, Happy Birthday, advise, help one another and this is the result. This he still new to the forum and have felt their impunity, imagine what would happen when he's (Senior). But the problem, as well as help comes from there where you least expect it and it is also Act. was not expecting that so Tasha react to that. One small post, but what is wealth. I realized that I did not replace it nichtozhestvo.Kakie money? So my advice to you, friendly start all from scratch. I would also be excused. Be generous, and do not pay attention to what goes on there day PI.

[Pablo]

Samvel, hosspadi please Samvel , calm down! Vedas you have asked you to poke !
In addition , as you know, that Gurdjieff - a liar ! Am I right? If you are interested to talk with me about this, please write to the PM. Few support your topic , and I know whereof I speak.
How do you think you did the right thing by putting on display what, who , and who wrote it? After all, you are used to make the grade , right? Even now, I 'm doing what you want. And you have offended ... I would be ashamed !