Ivan Puni

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от OlegTsi; 2023891"

civil action and parallel criminal proceedings , fraud on a large scale .

Yes.

Сообщение от ksenjaru; 2022461"

After six years have passed , many correspondences between the buyer and the prof. Berninger. Yes , the picture was actually in his collection , it is a fact . Also, in writing, he is ready to write that he was going to do the second part of the catalog and include the job.

As I understood from the description of the lot at the auction, the previous owner was ready to give a certificate on his behalf , but waged a long correspondence with the buyer.
Now , if you have negative opinions Russian expert agencies , " the newly discovered facts " will be going to court.

[тандем]

Сообщение от ksenjaru; 2023751"

because a lot of money is paid, and my feeling that the picture is doomed.

The most striking thing is not even the fact that the buyer with a rhyme or reason to pay 200,000 euros, and that when he was " proud owner " made ​​every effort to become the owner of the false picture of Ivan Puni . And he continues to act in the same direction ......

[ksenjaru]

Thank you all for your responses and opinions . I think that to solve a fake or not it will be in museums and looking at the picture, but not in the photo. As I wrote , while none of the experts vidivshih auctions did not express such an opinion. But to accuse Mr. Berninger, which is about 100 years for fraud, too, there is no reason to . I am very grateful for the advice and expertise to museums ! Can continue the conversation , as the authenticity of the paintings will be proved or disproved. In the meantime, we're just speculating ...

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Сообщение от Kirill Syzran

As I understood from the description of the lot at the auction, the previous owner was ready to give a certificate on his behalf, but waged a long correspondence with the buyer.

 
No certificate was up to the auction, but the problem is that the prof.
Berninger is not carrying this work into the directory resenne.

[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от OlegTsi; 2023611"

A few words about the photo number 3 - sold at the Paris Aguttes in 2006 for 360,000 euros .

This thing - generally quiet horror ...
The fact that such a color, poddelschik , it seems not even heard of.

Others - even those nice little , nice , glamorous , extremely well and in good faith made ​​a fake ...
In the 30th century will be appreciated , will write about them : " Puni School , late 20th century ."

[тутмос]

Net eto ne PUNI xotja i budet imet 10 ekspertiz

[John Preston]

I would like to know how ended (if ended, of course) such a fascinating and instructive story.

My work for Lansky, thank God, won...

[OlegTsi]

Сообщение от ksenjaru

Provenance it appeared at that time is not controversial, from the collection of prof.
Berninger, who created and catalogue raisonné of the paintings Puni.

Picture number 1 - a picture of Ivan Puni, "Peaks" 1917-1918, oil /canvas, 52h45 cm from the collection of Herman Berningera (Herman Berninger) in Zurich.

Picture number 2 - discussed the picture.

[uriart]

OlegTsi, with the French courts buyer simply Zaman.

My good friend galeristka suing "Agyutt" is 7-8 years for half a million euros paid for a fake (as it turned out) Aivazovsky.

And, to no avail!

God forbid that she was lucky, and returned the money!

[OlegTsi]

Сообщение от uriart; 2075351"

My good friend galeristka suing " Agyutt

To me have been asked not to comment on a legal side of this situation and provide an opportunity to make all decisions by the owners of this painting .
I put pictures of book collections of the Puni Berningera that more members of the forum to see what the picture in actual fact, in this collection.