Andrei Erofeev dismissed from the Tretyakov Gallery

[fross]

Сообщение от LCR

... and if it is not them, then it is mine, right?

EXACTLY. But should hurry - can "accidentally" find.

[Сергеич]

LCR,
And how are things in France? It happened whether such exhibitions (caution religion)
and what kind of response then?

[LCR]

Сообщение от Sergeyitch

LCR,
And how are things in France? It happened whether such exhibitions (caution religion)
and what kind of response after this?

I think artists have problems with the church was not, from time to time the movie appears, against which the church protest, rather low.
But the scandalous exhibition are, I was just thinking, do not give it to the forum material about one of them. I had not seen it - one was set up in Toulouse a few years ago. It was called, I think, "Innocent" (but I must check), and a scandal, I must say, we got loud.
The fact that the exhibits were there, apparently for daring - in particular, much has been written about a desperate "action painter," which shows there is a video where she was photographed during a session of masturbation - it is possible that modernist've been reading Harms, because instead of brushes and a palette knife to create his masterpiece, she enjoyed the cucumber - after which she sewed a causal place (Yeah, the post-war contemporary art requires its adherents a good deal of heroism), but the public reason do not like the fact that teachers were taken to the exhibition of pupils, with a mandatory basis.
There are no sanctions against our needlewomen not followed (I really do not know, maybe her mom drove from home as a female member of the band "War", see the article about young artists, posted today by Eugene).
In general, came the terrible scandal, poured accusations of pedophilia and other fashionable topics, but no one was fired from nowhere and certainly not put - there were grounds for the difference

[Konstantin]

Interesting question. The problem is "Beware religion" after all it was a "joke" over religion. Similar exhibitions have been?
The fact that people excel in the abstract - this is understandable. We also have a naked man periodically exposed.
And like do not put.

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от LCR

exhibits there were, apparently, relatively bold - in particular, much has been written about a desperate "action painter," which shows there is a video where she was photographed during the session of masturbation,

Listen, and yet in France as a cheerful, eh? Can you imagine if this happened in Russia? Smoke was a yoke. Although abrupt gestures, sometimes, lead to a helpless reaction. Remember the same sectarian underground ...

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I read the diary Gelman:
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Yes, for those who are interested Kabakov exhibition from the collection of Stewart in the Tretyakov Gallery will not. The rest of the exhibition (in Melnikov garage, Pushkin, on Winzavod in my gallery) on the plan.
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The context may be speculation that one consequence of the dismissal Erofeev. Do I understand?

[LCR]

As a result of the case, it appears that the organizers of the exhibition, of which I spoke above, filed in court.
The exhibition called "The presumption of innocence", was devoted to childhood and took place in Bordeaux. The best part: looking at the exhibition, Mayor of Bordeaux, Alain Juppe, a hostile attitude to her. He refused to attend the opening day and forbade the Division of Culture Exhibition Hall to put posters in places designated by the municipal announcements. However, he secured funding for this exhibition.

The suit was filed by the Association, whose aim is bolba pedophilia, with the support of some Catholic circles, as well as parents of children who were taken without prior arrangement to watch this show.

I will not describe all the vicissitudes of this history, I will quote only one passage from an article written by supporters of the prima facie case, which I found in the Web magazine "The protection of Catholicism» ( http://spiritualite-chretienne.com/combat/index . html ):

«The lawsuit would never have been filed, if the museum remained a place where people go if they have the desire. However, it has become a sanctuary in the education of citizens, and there whole autocars being taken" captive "audience who can not abandon this tour - the elderly and children. /.../In the 8 th June and 1 st October 2000 70 lecturers have led to the exhibition "The presumption of innocence" 1500 children - from primary school to graduate. "

I bold what I think the center of the problem.

Constantine: since the question was about the exhibition "Forbidden Art", because the process of the exhibition "Caution, Religion" (the one that defeated the believers) have been, at least in the first instance, no?

[Meister]

Сообщение от LCR

The lawsuit would never have been filed, if the museum remained a place where people go if they have a desire

what and speech. In France, of course overdid, forcing a mandatory basis for all to go there, but in our case, then one would not oblige anyone! I have a persistent sense that the true cause of things we do not know. The motives of people who initiated it, or whose initiation it was launched, some others.

[Konstantin]

About the "Forbidden Art".

charge

for organizing the exhibition in March 2007 at the Center for them. Sakharov A. Erofeev charged under subsection b ch.2 Art.282 of the Criminal Code (incitement of hatred or hostility, and humiliation of human dignity with the use of official position).

If found guilty of the curator of the exhibition, he faces up to five years imprisonment. Currently, A. Erofeev released on recognizance.

A

The record appears on photos that have been mined unknown way. Corollary keep absolutely silent about their origin. This silence is understandable. Neither exhibit was not published by us on the museum site. This is our principled position. Works in the exhibition of contemporary art may be incomprehensible to many, may be perceived as offensive. Museum room - a special kind, a visitor must be prepared in advance to try to understand The exhibits, to interpret them. Exhibition Hall - is a cultural space with its permissible scope, is the same as the space of a university or a church. Therefore, if the image artifacts out of context of the hall and to publish online or in the newspaper, the impression will be entirely different.

The prosecution

visitors of the exhibition, were when viewing these exhibits the strongest traumatic impact of excessive force, which bears a direct threat to the integrity of the individual and the destruction of their current world view, which was the strongest of traumatic events and stressful for them, caused them unbearable mental suffering and stress, and also a sense of humiliation of their human dignity ".

[Meister]

Сообщение от Konstantin

visitors of the exhibition, were when viewing these exhibits the strongest traumatic impact of excessive force, which bears a direct threat to the integrity of the individual and the destruction of their current world view, which was the strongest of traumatic events and stressful for them, caused them unbearable mental suffering and stress, as well as feelings of humiliation of their human dignity ".

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Why is it necessary to write it))) Perhaps this navayal the one who went to this exhibition, they suffered tortures of hell, and now on another can not be expressed): D: D: D: D

[Konstantin]

At the same time admit the whole situation is very "Russian". Perhaps something in this spirit that they write in the rationale for the issue of our current "immigrants". Both are happy to give, but how to read ...: confused: