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Старый 21.09.2011, 01:11 Язык оригинала: Русский       #31
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Of course, they will have to decide this question. Gallery in the cathedral - is nonsense .
Yes, I saw churches converted into something " exhibition " ... sad sight ...
Abnormal space , you feel that something is wrong ...

Church is not empty, rarely go ...
And , in fact , politeness towards understanding the subject of another is not harmful to show ... By the " maverick " so to speak .... And then the " priests ", " Old ladies ," etc. (this is commentary on other statements ).
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"Old ladies"
"Granny" - this is normal, it's better than "old evil."


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"priests"
"Priests" - plural.
Part of the "pop" - the priest of the Orthodox Church.

There was a pop,

Tolokonny forehead.

Pop went through the market

View Khoi-a product.
(c) >



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Старый 21.09.2011, 04:09 Язык оригинала: Русский       #33
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courtesy to the other understands the subject is not harmful to show ... By the " maverick " so to speak ....
Tolerance is usually not typical shovels and atheists and secularists postsovkovym .
They believe that only they have the correct picture of the world, and the rest were wrong , and it angers them very sincerely - to manifestations of rudeness, and other plebeian podkolochek banal realm .




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Старый 21.09.2011, 08:40 Язык оригинала: Русский       #34
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Tolerance is usually not typical shovels and atheists and secularists postsovkovym .
Scoop is just the ROC is. It is generated by the scoop , scoop out came out with a shovel and perish .
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They believe that only they have the correct picture of the world, and the rest were wrong , and it angers them quite honestly
I resent brazen raider attacks " men dressed in dresses ," and not someone else's bow in the form of icons, I do not have to care , even more believe that there was a woman from the rib men , business , then ... >



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Would behave as a Christian , any claims would not have been . Officials disgusting , but at least life is not taught . And these ... does not shun , but above all consider themselves to be just for his involvement in the church and all the notations are reading .... unpleasant. Among the many restorers Orthodox people, but each of them has a sad history of professional contact with the church, monument protection for them - an empty sound, just came into dispute - a heretic. About the abbot of the monastery of the Pskov- Pechora heard many good things , but telling emphasized its uniqueness, alas .



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Старый 21.09.2011, 12:40 Язык оригинала: Русский       #36
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And, in fact, politeness towards understanding the subject of another is not harmful to show ... By the "maverick" so to speak .... And then the "priests", "Old ladies," etc. (This is commentary on other statements).
There is no "dissent" is "inakodeystvie" - for example, raider seizure.
Why you do not confuse the requirement to observe the ritual of all the polls?
Why pop (sorry, priest), for example, I must be "holy father", "father" when referring to him as the highest dignitary - "Master" (Armenian counterparts, perhaps even more pathetic)?
 Why do I require mandatory compliance with the rules of the game, if I am in this field does not play?
Why would they "priests-priests" not to comply with courtesy towards me, and at least do not take from me what I am entitled to consider his involvement on the right to culture (the legitimate heir of which I am).
I do not know, as in Russia (I think the same way: the priests are the same everywhere). We passed the church monuments, no matter their age, are not Restoration, and euro-repair (by the way, a typical soviet approach). I call it barbaric and do not consider themselves bound by the rules of courtesy to the barbarian, no matter what "image" it does not put himself on.




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Scoop is just the ROC is.
The fact that the ROC hierarchy are the "scoop", did not cancel the fact that the absurd and the secularists have the same generic brand: intolerance of another opinion, arrogance, self-confidence and sometimes insolence.

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I do not have to care, even more believe that there was a woman from the rib men, business, something ...
And bogoveram also do not care if someone believes that man descended from apes.

It's also the belief, not more.




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Сообщение от Guriev , Igor ; 1779413"
Yes and no matter bogoveram too , if someone believes
" Bogovery " in the face svyaschenosluzhiteley , walk into the school, the army, on TV and radio, trying to impose a " nationwide dress code " of rape victims are accused of provoking the rapist .
And do not criticize them Mogi , timing is threatened , judge journalist for criticizing the, hide from criticism behind the prosecution angozhirovannyh and judges .



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, Perm, European Capital of Culture. Why not?

For the European press and everyone who supports the 100-year cultural and artistic archives of the Perm State Art Gallery.

We would like to draw your attention to the critical situation around the centennial collection of the Perm State Art Gallery (Russia), in storage which are 45.000 items dated in the II. d.n.e - XXI century. Last year, the gallery lost its legal rights to the building of Holy Transfiguration sobora and is currently under threat of closure and dismantling. This is the largest and oldest art archive of the Ural region.

September 5 a group of Russian scientists and scholars wrote an open letter in support of the gallery, which brought together 677 signatures, but was not seen by the authorities.

We ask you - help the voices of these people be heard!

October 11 Perm was invited to Brussels for a forum Open Days. October 15 will hold its edge in the Kulturbrauerei presentation in Berlin. In both cities, Perm will present its an expensive project, "experimental" cultural policy, which wrote the New York Times and ABCnews. Berlin presentation complete discussion "of the European Capital of Russia. Why not?", Which has agreed to become the moderator, Professor Manfred Heinemann.

We ask you to sign an open letter, and seek to Perm on issues related to the fate of the Perm State Art Gallery (PGHG) during the presentation and referred directly to addresses the administration of the Perm region. We also ask that you disseminate o PGHG in the press and on social networks.
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Russian Orthodox Church has declared the right of another building of the cathedral in the 1990s, constantly reminding themselves of. The recent public outcry forced the government to distribute the media speculation about the signing of $ 5 millionth kontrakta on to design the new building PGHG with known Swiss architect Peter Zumthor. However, no information about the concept of the museum, budget, and srokax istochnikax finance the construction of the building was not made public. All public inquiries into the Administration of the Perm Region on this information have been ignored. At the moment the gallery has no legal rights to the building, which is in August, it had been rented by the church under the patronage of the Permian authorities. 100 years of artistic and cultural archive is in dire straits!

Please read the full story at the link below the question Read More.

Thank you very much for your help and support!

INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE OF PUBLIC
in support of the Perm State Art Gallery
Development of the conflict

In 2010, the Federal Property Management Agency has refused to renew the contract of the Perm State Art Gallery (PGHG) on the building of Holy Transfiguration Cathedral. In August 2011, after signing a lease on the building of the Cathedral, the church began to carry out rituals in the middle of the gallery, which led to the removal of the central part of the museum exhibition. In the absence of a new building for the museum, PGHG was on the verge of closing.

After the scandal broke, vice president of the Perm region, Mr. Boris Milgram officially declared that the church services at the museum had been authorized by the administration of the Perm region, which okazala pressure on the leadership picture for the church. Minister of Culture of the Perm region, Mr. Nicholas Beginners, personally participated in the inauguration of the church services at the museum, openly admitted that he sees nothing wrong in carrying out religious rituals in the middle of civil institutions. Ha last week, in response to rumors of dismissal of Mr. nA Novichkova, Mr. Gelman, by contrast, suggested that Mr. Rookie dolzhen expected move up the career ladder. It should be noted that earlier Mr. Gelman, as if nothing had happened, signed an open letter in support of the public PGHG declaring authorized Mr. Milgram and Mr. newbie interference in the affairs of the church gallery illegal. All three officials promote the development of "Perm - cultural capital", while Mr. Gelman is the leader and ideologue.

This confusion has led to increased action of the public, within a couple of weeks, which attracted hundreds of signatures on a letter in defense of PGHG that allowed church services to stop and return to work was shot on location.

In late September, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev personally responded to the situation of cultural institutions located in buildings of religious significance, stressing that the museum should not be thrown into the street, and that local government will bear full responsibility for the situation. Currently, the legal rights to the building of the Council's gallery is still not back at any time PGHG may be subject to eviction.

Russian Orthodox Church has declared the right of the cathedral as early as the 1990s, and then constantly reminded of it. Public protest against the situation with the gallery forced authorities to extend the Permian in the media rumors that they are about to be signed $ 5 million contract to design the museum at the famous Swiss architect Peter Zumthor. However, any information in connection with the new concept of the museum, budget, timelines and funding sources have not yet made public. All public requests for such information to the Administration of Perm Region, as well as personally, Mr. Milgram was ignored.
Gallery may be subject to eviction at any time.

Collection

Sobranie PGHG, building on the collection of the Perm Scientific and Industrial Museum in 1902, includes 45,000 artifacts collected by art historians and researchers for more than a century. The collection includes unique pieces reflecting the history of artistic and cultural life and Perm region, including paintings XVII-XIX centuries, rare Orthodox icons, ancient manuscripts and early printed books, a collection of paintings of the Permian of the twentieth century, watercolor Ural 1960-90's unique collection of the Perm books, crafts and Ural stone sculpture. Special place in the Permian occupy a unique wooden gods, dating from the XVII-XIX centuries and predstavlyayuschie a hybrid of Christianity and paganism, which is a feature of the culture of the region harakternoy that time.

Among other things, houses a collection PGHG Austro-German, Italian, Flemish painting, Russian avant-garde of the twentieth century, including works by Liubov Popova, Natalya Goncharova, Ivan Cluny, Robert Falk, Kuzma Petrov-Vodkin, Aristarchus Lentulov, Pyotr Konchalovsky, and the painting of St. Petersburg and Moscow schools.

Perm - European Capital of Culture. Why not?

Although the problem with the new building was badly PGHG back in 2010, in June 2011, Perm had to perform two other ambitious project: $ 104,000,000th reconstruction of the Opera House and $ 23,000,000th reconstruction of two-year-old museum PERMM. These two figures are the sum exceeds the annual budget for the culture of the Perm region is almost three times ($ 53 million in 2011, the New York Times) and negatively correlated with the budgetary wage workers PGHG, averaging about $ 300 a month.

Both projects are scheduled to begin in 2011-2012 and completed by 2013-2015, while the design project PERMM was 95%ready in June. It is important to emphasize that neither Opera nor PERMM never faced an immediate threat of relocation or closure. Regardless of other arguments, giving priority to PERMM invaluable cultural and historical archive, obviously, requires additional arguments.

Assessing the situation, one can not but wonder - how Perm determine its cultural priorities? And if all these costly plans, in principle, achievable?

Perm not disclose information that should be available to the public

So far, no reliable sources of funding called the Opera House renovation, PERMM PGHG or construction. Perm Governor Oleg Chirkunov expects the local budget will cover about 50%, and the rest of the money will come from the state. However, in September this year, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said that such projects should not expect financial support from the state. Assuming construction PGHG will cost no less reconstruction Opera, the approximate cost of the three projects will be about $ 250 million, ie approximately 14%of the entire annual budget of the Perm region ($ 1.766 million, the New York Times). Not made public and information on operational costs for all these grandiose constructions after their introduction into service, further information on this case also is not publicly available.

Attempt of the Committee to investigate the situation with the concept, as well as the actual construction of the new opportunities brought PGHG a very important result. Was almost impossible to identify not only the details of the new project PGHG or the manner in which budget adjustments are formed by culture, but the distribution of budget funding between the cultural sectors, institutions and projects - information that should be known to the general public - there is no publicly available on the website of the institutions . Committee members and their supporters have sent numerous requests for the deputy director of the program "Perm - Capital of Culture" Anastasia Efremova. It was also written an official letter to her supervisor, Mr. Boris Milgram. So far, no response to our inquiries we have received.

We ask for your help

We understand and appreciate the desire to Perm to high European standards in the cultural and social development. But these standards must be the result of the preservation and development of local culture, rather than the proclamation of the modern PR technologies sredstvami fact of their direct presence. It is impossible to draw any conclusions about the "Permian experiment" without disclosing the true priorities of Perm, one of whom must be open and democratic government of Perm in relation to community initiatives. Discussion of these issues and clarify the true meaning of "Cultural Capital of Europe" would be very helpful to Perm.

We do not know whether the Perm money for a new building PGHG. But while the Perm not make an official statement, alternative fund-raising campaign for PGHG can not be initiated and the museum will continue to be under threat. Immediate disclosure of government information in the new building PGHG can also help to establish a dialogue with the church and trust the church to prevent the intensification of the crisis.

We need your support in preserving the collection as part of the European PGHG artistic and cultural heritage. Any help in this regard, including the signatures to the open letter, and takzhe dissemination within the community and the press very important to us. We may need thousands of signatures to the government began to take action.


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Dear Friends!


1. October 26th will be a meeting of the Public Chamber of the Perm region, which will discuss the situation around the Perm Art Gallery. We kindly request - to make this information available on social networks and ask to be present. Log in to the press - free. A report by the director of Hope PGHG Belyaeva, co-rapporteur - Minister of Culture Nikolai edge newcomers. Will discuss the plan for the transfer of the church building, as well as, hopefully, a new contract with the Federal Property Management Agency, the new building for the gallery.


2. The situation for the first time responded to the Perm diocese. On their website there was an extensive article based on facts, not corresponding to reality (incorrectly described the place of worship in PGHG, argued that sharing the building was legally justified; incorrectly described the essence of the requirements of the open letter and other letters from supporters of the gallery; incorrectly described the mission of the Committee , incorrectly described the position PGHG, etc., etc.). Article have already begun to reprint other media. At this stage for negotiations with the diocese for the withdrawal and /disprove whether the article needs help qualified lawyers. We would like to formally address a letter to the diocese, after basing our requirements legally. Article address: http://pravperm.ru/novosti_eparhii/s...orogo_ne_bylo/


3. According to our information, the gallery has already prepared the documents for the signing of the free use of the Federal Property Agency. However, last week, the treaty was not signed. Inhibited if the process and, if so, by whom, we hope, will find the 26th at a meeting of the OP.


4. To our question about the budget for the new gallery building, laid out in the TRC received a formal response. For 2012-2013 incorporated 7.5 million rubles. The remaining funds will be sought from extrabudgetary sources.
RE: It is known that the combined cost of the reconstruction of the theater and the construction of PGHG - about $ 159 million is also known that the theater will spend $ 104 million, respectively, the estimated cost of the building picture - $ 55 million


5. As it became known, the Swiss architect Peter Zumthor has refused to sign the contract for the construction of a new PGHG. The reason is the need to create a new concept of the museum. Permian experts also question the choice of land for building - on the waterfront of the Kama, on skolne next to the railroad. Will Perm address these issues in order to continue to work with Mr. Zumthor? The question that hopefully will be lifted on October 26 at a meeting of the OP.

Please visit this meeting and support PGHG!

MOZHDUNARODNY Social Committee
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