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[Artem]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Here you have reached the " Great expert "!

I suggested that the discussion of the Great Ex . Ummm ...

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky ; 1615533 "

No he's a fake created /creates .

It simply confirms ...

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

You are so respectful of one such leaders write :

I do not see nothing respectful here , though after his arrival , and if he will give the necessary testimony which have resulted in many of the wait, including me - against the " virtuosos " as the Grand Ex . and the figure of Grabar (which runs to this day . ) That's when you 'll be right .

Dear Cyril !
You amaze me , I think you all know it's not worse than me .

So what are the issues ?

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Сообщение от Artem

Dear Cyril !
You amaze me , I think you all know it's not worse than me .

I know something , yes , but to dump the whole responsibility for the appearance of the sea fakes 2-3 experts see as an unfair way out.
Who bought the paintings in the West who are tinkering with them in Russia , who are already converted wore to the experts ?
That's really your answers to these questions are not interesting ? Or everything - extreme found : Grabar and Petrov ?

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if he would give the necessary testimony investigation

Ah-ah-ah ...
"We need evidence" ...
Well, well ...

[uriart]

I am almost sure that many experts know what the go!
And when the smell of fried , first began to cry " Stop thief ! " .
They are not disinterested people ! Just opposite !
And all on the forum know how to give someone riding faster to get coveted paper .
Under such a sauce , the distribution of upland , presents , and those famous perelitsovki .
Personally , in the early 2000 's narrowly escaped with perelitsovkoy Ungevittera under Vasilkovskaja . By the way with two examinations , Grabar and the Tretyakov Gallery.
The work was sold at the gallery of the Transfiguration .
Thank God they did not find a buyer for this perelitsovku . Some time later I saw in on-line job Ungevittera and much was clear .

[Artem]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky ; 1615673 "

yes, but to dump the whole responsibility for the appearance of the sea fakes 2-3 experts see as an unfair conclusion

 
Totally agree with you .

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Or - the extreme found : Grabar and Petrov ?

If pretsident , and then roll like a snowball ...

Сообщение от uriart

And when the smell of fried , first began to cry " Stop thief ! " .

That 's it, I was just about it !

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They are not disinterested people ! Just opposite !
And all on the forum know how to give someone riding faster to get coveted paper

You have rightly noticed that all everyone knows , ..

[uriart]

I do not think that someone is engaged in manufacture of the members of the forum falshaka and give them a market.
Go figure it out now, who of experts "worked" of the examinations consciously, and who is truly wrong?
Personally, I well remember how Peter, the work is in the Tretyakov Gallery, very careful approach to each work. And as he talked to the attention entirely to strangers. And it cost only a 10 rubles, a visual examination.
I can not talk about the future of his expertise, so as not addressing him.
He had already soared high above the earth and to get to him was very difficult. Yes, and it is not working at the Tretyakov Gallery.
And how many papers forged under his examination?
It should also be taken into account.
We can only say one thing: "Money is a very big temptation!" And not everyone has enough strength and mind to resist the nimi.Osobenno, knowing that such documents are EA it will be nothing.
Reprimanded and that's all! In the same prison will not plant ....
Probably everyone knows about a lady from grabar (a very good judge!)
who unabashedly says he wants to go only to the HUMMER (!!!).
It was then that certainly can question the veracity of her expertise.

[Artem]

Сообщение от uriart; 1616273 "

And how many papers forged under his examination ? It should also be taken into account .

Yes - this is true , and this was much the same without them . But they are not widespread , it is naive to believe that someone from serious collectors, art dealers could not check was conducted of expertise or not ... especially when it comes to serious matters , etc.

Сообщение от uriart

Especially , knowing that the EA documents such he did not budet.Pozhuryat and that's all ! In the same prison will not plant

That's the point. If they had at least something they were afraid , but now felt permissiveness and impunity - especially after numerous scandals expertise that is not what is not over ...

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I guess everyone knows about a lady from grabar (a very good judge !!!)

There "works" one person, anyway, and it will be more important than ...

[uriart]

Artem, the one about which I wrote , no longer works .

Since this issue does not cause a living response from forum members, it can be closed .

Perhaps , nobody needs it .

As molded examination on fuflyaki and will sculpt !

Look at the work of Goncharova's what " zalipuhi " books are written , so what?
And not one , but two !
And this despite the fact that in the west the experts can get to the criminal responsibility!

And in Russia, and God himself commanded : " Lepite gentlemen you anything for it will not ! "

[Artem]

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Artem, the one about which I wrote , no longer works .

I know you're talking about ( but - it is a high-quality specialist and a recognized fact . ) I mean ... another " bird " which is on the original paintings of great masters said that is the shit - and bullshit recognizes podlinikami, and that it progresses very quickly go mad . . have themselves grabarskie shepchyutsya behind - again K. ... covered with - runs on the Centre with a red face spies looking for ...

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Perhaps , nobody needs it .

 In this one no doubt !

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" Lepite gentlemen you anything for it will not ! "

So she sculpts ...

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Since this topic does not cause a living response from forum members, it can be closed .

 You 're right - subject to be closed. Wait, can someone from the experts will be closed ... to the delight of many ...