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Старый 16.02.2011, 15:01 Язык оригинала: Русский       #31
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here once there is an analogy with a colossal fraud - all invented creativity Tim Block.
Yes, what is the analogy here?
Y Time-Blok sell only since 2006 and only here in Russia, shovels, Gelos.
It was on sale 97 works
The price range is $ 100-500. During this time, prices have not changed.

Lanskoy for sale since 1986 in many countries around the world.
During this time, were sold through auctions in 2391 work.
Prices of first auctions (oil) $ 9000-10000., Now hundreds of thousands.

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Lansky - NEVER.
Oh.
A week ago, when I sold Lansky for 190 000 $ - with liquidity are all very good.



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Старый 16.02.2011, 15:39 Язык оригинала: Русский       #32
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I'm talking about investments. And the investment - is quite another.
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You are confused in terms. Investments - and they have investments. And art, in this case - one of the tools.
Sorry, but I somehow just about art. Lanskoy I do not like, regardless of its attractiveness. As, however, and the hunchback.
To be more precise, it is likely both are not "dislike" and "do not touch you."

It's always just think that talking about the high, and is again about the money.
However someone is hanging right motto: If you do not know what was going on, so it's about money (I slightly misquote, but something similar)



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Старый 16.02.2011, 16:27 Язык оригинала: Русский       #33
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To be more precise, it is likely both are not" dislike "and" do not touch you. "
Each course your taste and preferences, I personally and rock paintings can catch.
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but the bulk of the facts of unknown origin who had taken the artists of "Russian Paris" - also, in many respects, was invented.
It seems like just more well known , who were friends with whom to work, drinking, exhibited, etc. Forgotten, yes, much forgotten, but now just gets up efforts including artdilerov.



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Старый 16.02.2011, 17:07 Язык оригинала: Русский       #34
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Lanskoy for sale since 1986 in many countries around the world.
During this time, were sold through auctions in 2391 work.
Prices of first auctions (oil) $ 9000-10000., Now hundreds of thousands.
Yes, for God's sake, let the sale. Carpets for steamboats did wall murals - great.


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Oh.
A week ago, when I sold Lansky for 190 000 $ - Liquidity is all very well.
Constantine! Without Loja and life is bad. Sold something, I suppose, in the gallery (I will not articulate to what), but people want such a beauty to sell in a month or two - and the second such shell-shocked not to find.

You do not confuse investment purchases with parochial "vparivaniyami.



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Старый 16.02.2011, 18:40 Язык оригинала: Русский       #35
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lazycat, you somehow grotesquely categorical. Normal artist, recognizable, the original way, far more self-sufficient than many abstractionists, the same Poles, for example. He may like it, may not like it, but deny its investment attractiveness can only bezargumentno.
As for "not previously known," so to scoop the entire emigration was a white spot: and de Stael, and Lipchitz, and Survage, yes everything, even Soutine with Jawlensky were not mentioned as artists. Or are they also a product promotion artdilerami?



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Старый 16.02.2011, 18:42 Язык оригинала: Русский       #36
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lazycat, indeed, very curious ... I searched a bit online .. Lansky is not in any world museum .. (Tretyakov was a trend :-) - in the same museums where his work there, she attended many years after his death. Check the galleries, which are listed in the wiki as hosting a lifetime exhibition Lansky. Neue Gallerie in Zurich-Inet so do not know, a gallery with that name in New York do not know who Lanskoy. Loeb Gallery New York online does not even have links to the gallery.

It is somehow strange. If it is a long time in life exhibited solo in the U.S., so there were selling it and then his work must be slaughtered American museums, because Americans like the museums of giving.
Drawn a lot of rather big canvases with a thick layer of paint. Produce a number of made sense if they were regular sales during his lifetime. So why, then, works anywhere, except on auctions. Auction records appear in 1986, EM 10 years after his death.

De Stael is a huge number of museums, but in vivo acquisitions I do not find it. Auction records also from 1986, but De Stael total of 200 oil paintings at auction in 1700 Lansky oil.
Checked - artprays always gives in 1986, even for a Picasso. Incidentally, Picasso, for all this time drew 1,200 oil paintings. THEOREM Lanskoy tucked in his belt Picasso.
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Старый 16.02.2011, 18:49 Язык оригинала: Русский       #37
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You are confused in terms. Investments - and they have investments. And art, in this case - one of the tools.

And one of the highlights of the investment attractiveness is liquidity. Korovin or Gorbatova if I need cash quickly, I'm selling ALWAYS. Lansky - NEVER.
lazycat, I did not get them mixed up. Just such a thing as "art market" already contains a contradiction. To find some rational explanation of the need of art for a person - it is impossible, hence the evaluation of his works are always subjective, not subject to some general laws. Otherwise, the most expensive works would be those for which it took a maximum of paint, canvases, bronze, etc.

Your confidence in Korovin and Gorbatova worthy of respect. The main thing that it was for love




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QED. For some reason I remembered the Time-Block: Yes, there was such an artist, Marina Time, but watercolor never worked, and worked as butter fat Socialist Realism. And all those "ah-ballerina-old Petersburg - golimy remake, failed under the beautiful name of the deceased artist.

And with Lansky more interesting - the heirs, then where? Relatives, children, grandchildren? Something they were not observed. All some shady characters. We must, incidentally, for the sake of interest to the chemistry of several works great Lansky. Once all becomes clear. <!--~ 10 "->



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lazycat, can all be much easier .. Well, remained after the artist's 100 works. Someone bought them, plus his personal archive and finished another 2000 jobs. As time has passed at all, then the canvas and paint - all fully coincide.
I'm surprised such a transformation with Bascom since his death until a large solo exhibition took place several scroll years, during which time the number of papers has increased substantially. Or as Van Gogh wrote that he wrote Sunflowers same size, but after a few years after his death it was found that a different size, but in 4 variants.

In fact, you can unearth the story of Lansky, if there were exhibitions in the U.S. in the archives of all there is. Another thing is that, for example, the work of Lansky at the Chicago Art Institute at Lansky did not like. If the artist duplicated in the same period when he lived without it personally identify, where he is, where is not it?

Added after 4 minutes
lazycat, and where to read about a scam with the Time-Unit?
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QED. For some reason I remembered the Time-Block: Yes, there was such an artist, Marina Time, but watercolor never worked, and worked as butter fat Socialist Realism. And all those "ah-ballerina-old Petersburg - golimy remake, failed under the beautiful name of the deceased artist.

And with Lansky more interesting - the heirs, then where? Relatives, children, grandchildren? Something they were not observed. All some shady characters. We must, incidentally, for the sake of interest to the chemistry of several works great Lansky. Once all becomes clear.
The real price at Lansky can be found in the directory Akun. There, as in the pharmacy.



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