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Старый 06.09.2012, 21:26 Язык оригинала: Русский       #371
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I for 7 years every Saturday was Wernicke and I know that there as no worse and maybe better , your , Comrade. private predprnimaiel - Muscovite. < - 6 ~ ~ ->
So nothing lost time there. I figured out what works sold. Said composition technique. Some artists have been taught. Mastered , and was also sold.
And you were the only means do not understand. And another question , with such art- manager who is - that work. Yes, and you will hear and buzzwords of too vulgar words and mangled . Can that - that on scientific say. And it did not believe ... that you are a trotter .



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Старый 06.09.2012, 22:07 Язык оригинала: Русский       #372
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Do you mean there were just do not understand.
And what I understand there should have been? I'm in the ranks of the antique to buy /sell . < - ~ 5 ~ ->

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One more question, what with the art manager who is - that work. Yes, and you will hear and buzzwords of too vulgar words and mangled . Maybe that - then you say scientific .
I had no artistic manager , and a simple art dealer : buying in order to sell more - and this feed.
And the question I have for her is not cleaned for years, so that now for some retired amateur , damage its " scientific" word.
You just have to express clearly the Russian language - Pontius took , the more clearly you say , the other person is your idea clearer, I do not for whom the " impression " to produce not going to say as it is, without frills and Verbal gymnastics .



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Старый 06.09.2012, 22:45 Язык оригинала: Русский       #373
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And what I understand there should have been? I'm in the ranks of the antique to buy /sell . < - ~ 5 ~ ->
I did not " art manager ", and the simple art dealer, speculator, huckster , shopkeeper : buy in order to sell more - and this feed.
I do not know what you believe it /do not believe so and do not want .
Even do not believe it . In your words, there is no trace of scientific assessments
objects of art. No analysis. Therefore, such a huckster shall burn times. Thus , the literary man juggling with poor education. There was a more advanced environment.
   And what about " expensive " is also a lie. There selling paintings at exactly the price. West they are almost impossible to sell because of the defects of painting and purely Russian art characters.
True average quality of Chinese buying , but at prices three times less than the average market price.




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Старый 06.09.2012, 23:03 Язык оригинала: Русский       #374
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And what about "expensive" is also a lie. There selling paintings at exactly the price.
Ha, you thought I was sold on the Wernicke pictures?
Wernick was not the place.
There might have to buy something from the DPI in the ignorant, but to sell the icons, for example.
But I bought it and painting, antique row, of course.
Are you one of their number with a souvenir picture in there and did not go.
By the way, at the expense
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Do not believe it.
We, Comrade. pensioner, not live in a vacuum, I foruchane many local and Wernicke know long ago.

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In your words there is no trace of scientific assessment
objects of art.
I do not understand. And what evidence must be in my words? What "scientific evaluation"? And why? What I "scientific estimates" and where? In the forum?
Look, you do not understand or really anywhere, or, as you have said here, Brad.
I, for example, to communicate with you, because I just is fun, fun.
But will all bear the hen, stop with your talk and you instantly are left alone in the silence of a finger.
desert waves on the shore
He stood, full of great thoughts,
And looking into the distance.
(a)



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Старый 06.09.2012, 23:11 Язык оригинала: Русский       #375
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It may be worthwhile to provide a separate theme - "Taxation", for example, the post 307 or 322?
Because the conversation has already gone too far, and to write on the theme, too, have that, and stop all together would not like.
As you look at it?



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Старый 06.09.2012, 23:25 Язык оригинала: Русский       #376
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It may be worthwhile to provide a separate theme - "Taxation", for example, the post 307 or 322?
Exactly!

The theme of the value of the artist is to clear from the place as it did this tax collector-public man "with their horror stories.



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Старый 07.09.2012, 03:51 Язык оригинала: Русский       #377
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Ha, you thought I was sold on the Wernicke pictures?
Wernick was not the place.
There might have to buy something from the DPI in the ignorant, but to sell the icons, for example.
But I bought it and painting, antique row, of course.
Are you one of their number with a souvenir picture in there and did not go.
By the way, at the expense

I, for example, to communicate with you, because I just is fun, fun.
But will all bear the hen, stop to talk to you and you will instantly be left here in silence as one finger.
On icons also doubtful. As far as I remember, there was not antiques, and were members of the Interior Ministry, who were looking for the stolen icons. And how are you not aware of any technology or history, being in an atheistic nihilism, can assess the icon. And with weak legal knowledge and
first encounter with law enforcement officers of many faces.

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Dear administration! It may be worthwhile to provide a separate theme - "Taxation", for example, the post 307 or 322? Because the conversation has already gone too far, and to write on the theme, too, have that, and stop all together would not like. As you look at it?
I do not need. We have to discuss taxation only because of dense ignorance of some who suggest tax-free sales.
More. Will have to come back to this, because taxes and gallerists are 2/3 or more of the legal price of paintings of the artist.
Of course, if we talk only about the criminal sale, talk about taxes unnecessarily. But here the problem - the theme of crime in the sale of art is very high. And again there will be disagreement amateur dealers who do not have their picture and make buy-sell them to swear on an opening day.
There is another suggestion. Stop inspired lie, and the discussion of normative materials to give references.




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Старый 07.09.2012, 13:37 Язык оригинала: Русский       #378
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Tax expense only consider what has gone on a specific

Sell.
The rest - personal spending is cost.
A packaging trnsportirovka, promotion?
(Phone, mail, web, public relations?)



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Старый 07.09.2012, 13:48 Язык оригинала: Русский       #379
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A packaging trnsportirovka, promotion? (Phone, mail, internet, PR?)
It was only on the sketches. For the rest must be harmonized with the tax. They often have an opinion.
 For example, I previously wrote off the cost basis of the standard 40%of revenue. I was instructed to draw up a plan of production patterns. And bought paint and materials to share depending on the area of ​​pictures. And that's not all. Share materials written off only realized paintings. This corresponded to the Tax Code.
I think, not always in front of tax authorities need to set challenges. This will result in days of preparation boo. report.

Packing, respectively. Bought a roll of cardboard. Determined by its area. When selling paintings
with a cardboard box, a determined area of ​​the sheet of cardboard for packaging, and its share of the roll. Charged only the amount that corresponds to the size of the package.
Usually, when dozens of pictures a year tedious because high cost of failure - fine. Excluding multiple items of expenditure is not penalized.
From PR:
 http://pommp.ru/nalogi/rashodyi-na-r...e-zakrutitsya/
http://soveturista77.ru/enciklopediy...ly/page98.html




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Старый 07.09.2012, 16:26 Язык оригинала: Русский       #380
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This will result in days of preparation boo.
report.
 
If all transactions through the bank, what kind of account is it?
All black and white printed (otprinteno) and the balance of let down.
What are you?



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