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Старый 28.01.2013, 18:55 Язык оригинала: Русский       #331
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The purpose of each of the prayers

Express a wish?



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Prayer, but rather a request. But can be considered as a wish, but for yourself.

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That's one of the many cases described at:

Indeed, in my life lately is so many miracles, that is simply amazing! Both large and small, but real, genuine miracles!
I'll tell you one thing. To quote his account of the events of June this year.

Evidence of the miraculous healing of the icon of Our Lady of Kykkos
Our eldest daughter came to Cyprus with a weak cough 2-3 times a day. No ENT or pediatrician say anything definite could not, and allergist survey appointed by a significant amount, which we did not have time to go through. Arriving at the hotel in the evening, we swim in the sea, had dinner and went to bed, and at night the baby began coughing so that we almost did not sleep until the morning. Besides sucking lozenges cough in our medicine cabinet, there was nothing of this misfortune, and they almost did not help. Early this morning I went on a tour of Kykkos and children remained grandmother. I will not try to describe in words the feelings, when I stood before the icon of the Mother of God of Kykkos. So I probably will not ever prayed.
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In the evening, it was found that cough racked her daughter all day, she was very hoarse. The night was even worse last. Milk, diluted with warm water, like sucking lozenges, no relief. Fortunately, I had brought from Kykkos fleece with oil from the icon a few times I anointed daughter forehead and prayed before the end of this terrible night.

Early in the morning I sent SMS to her husband, asking for express courier DHL drugs we were treated in the winter cough. I cursed myself for not having figured to take it with you.

After breakfast, I had to go to Moscow. With a heavy heart, saying goodbye to the children and a grandmother, I got on the bus. All the way to the airport, I continually prayed for her children and her mother, remaining on the island, and especially, of course, about his sick daughter. At the airport, I received a response from her husband that mail DHL closed - it was a Sunday.

I knew that one more day and one more night - this horrible torture, and if the medicine be sent on Monday, at best, it will be delivered on Tuesday, and perhaps later.

In a foreign country to buy the same medicine does not succeed, but there are some others? Our grandmother does not speak English, but she could ask for help from the Russian-speaking hotel staff. In fact, she wrote a note in English, which she went to the store. But alas, on Sunday pharmacy did not work!

It only remained to pray. And I pray - in the airplane, in the car, at home ...

Finally in the evening of this long day, I received SMS-message from my mother, that the cough became weaker. In the morning, she said that the night was calm, and the cough subsided completely ... For her, it was amazing, but I know who to thank!

At that moment I realized the depth of the sudden, that every word, every our weak and inept prayer no doubt heard. I did not ask for a miracle, I asked for help a child by any means, so we still managed to send the medicine or to be able to buy on the spot, so that it acted would reduce coughing. But we were manifest a miracle: a full recovery without medication for a few hours! ..

When I returned to Cyprus to replace the grandmother to spend with the children for two more weeks, his cough was gone. In memory of Cyprus I did not need any national lace or silver or ceramics. I was looking for Kykkos icon. Icons of Cyprus sold in souvenir shops, along with crafts, T-shirts and other nonsense. Therefore, bringing the icon to Moscow, I took her to the temple, where it re-consecrated. Now the icon of Our Lady of Kykkos warms our house with his presence.
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Старый 28.01.2013, 22:03 Язык оригинала: Русский       #333
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Consciously moved here quotes from the theme of "Art of Africa"

Quote: "A masochki, yes, funny, but I'm afraid to fly - it's all the same items of religious purpose, and who knows what demons are asleep for so long ..."
Quote: "Do not be afraid. Masochki, which are sold to tourists - mostly ordinary souvenir junk. These articles for religious services almost impossible kupit.Oni are public property of a particular people, nation, and passed on from generation to generation. Nobody has the right to dispose of them individually. These items carry a mystical component since participated in rituals, they represent the ancestral totem, who sacrifice, and is accessed by all occasions.
Collection presented in museums and private collections were at 19, the first half of the 20th century, when the cult objects often simply seized by force.
Without a living participation in the rites they gradually lost its mystical power and today it's just material samples African cultures "

I think that the African cult masks and address them by their purpose like icons and prayers of Christianity. They, like the Christian icons to be involved in the manifestation of the natural principle, which would be called either "The Prayer", or "Mystery" ...

This idea was confirmed by the following quote tandem: "Mysticism is present in all religions and faiths. How else to explain the impossible and the unknown. All and always worried and concerned about one issue - that there, below the physical death. Reincarnation heaven, hell? Seeking an answer to this question is man made idols, gods, surrounded them with the conventions and rituals, a science for understanding the "mystery", and WHO, as they say, is still there ..... No one can predict what will happen tomorrow. And want to know. Want "podstelit straw", though the prayers before the icons and rituals, though ritual dances in masks. Everywhere there is mysticism - mandatory seasoning to obscurity "

Correctly. Impossible - you were! replaced by "the probable and the unknown!"




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Старый 30.01.2013, 12:34 Язык оригинала: Русский       #334
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involved in the manifestation of the natural principle, which would be called either " The Prayer" , or " Mystery " ...
The action of natural principle of " Mystery " is associated with an altered state of consciousness, which has now become the subject of scrutiny by philosophers , historians, psychologists.
My view of this mysterious state of consciousness described in the " mystical experience of the Nazarenes " work " Evolution and the Right ." (published in the journal)




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Старый 31.01.2013, 13:19 Язык оригинала: Русский       #335
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What I saw with my (.) View I have described in the essay "The Creation", intended for the information prepared person.
For others, the list is about to show for preview (by e-mail asking where the lace starts of essays and poetry)
Fulfilling the promise of the essay to the images of the alphabet.

the first place. Almost all essays mentioned work "Evolution and the Law." Therefore, besides the epilogue will place in the diary "content." Excerpts will continue to show as needed. The "austerity" is shown.

Second. There is a "primary" essay, without mentioning the other. This "Lithos", "La Boheme," "Yes, yes, so you know," "valence". It specifies separate concepts.

Third. The mention of the content of "neighboring" essay increases in the following order:
"Intell ..."
"The continuity"
"P.S."
"The Golden Bough"
"I have the honor! ..."
"Blago_darya"
"Images of the alphabet (instead of letters)"
"Dedication to the secret alphabet"
"Kay means Key"
"Winged image of the heavenly aeon"
"Key Images"
"Code Development"
"Creation"
The same list will be stored and updated in the diary.


Today, a search for images of alphabetic over eons (in the first) on the ninth position.



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Старый 01.02.2013, 12:50 Язык оригинала: Русский       #336
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My view of this mysterious state of consciousness described in the "mystical experience of the Nazarenes" work "Evolution and the Law."
(Published in the diary)

And we ought to first ask whether there is an interest.
Do I need to fill the pages of the diary, if they are not interested?



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And it is necessary to begin by asking whether there is an interest .
If the main " Zamutchik " decided to give you out of the crowd and the ability to reward you , sooner or later he will make you pray, so that his forehead on the floor ... rasshibesh N. Magnolia very interesting to me , I read your diary !

Attaching a "mystical " document , by the way he was the official stamp and signed by many :

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What does this sign on his forehead?



Art of Africa

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George Gurdjieff. Can prayer help a person live a Christian life? - Asked one question.

- It depends on what kind of prayer - Gurdjieff said. - Prayer of subjectivity, that is, man number one, two and three, can only subjective results, namely, consolation, self-hypnosis, self-hypnosis. Objective results, it can not give.

- But does prayer do not give objective results? - Said one of those present.

- I have already said, it all depends on whose it is prayer - posted Gurdjieff.

"We must learn to pray with the same perfection as people learn everything else. The one who knows how to pray, who can properly focus - such a person praying is working. It should be understood that there are different prayers, and their results are different. This is known even from the service. But when we speak of prayer or of its results, as a rule, we mean one kind of prayer - prayer, or to believe that prayer can be combined with other kinds of-prayer. Of course, this is wrong.

Most of the prayers has nothing to do with prayers. I'm talking about the ancient prayer: many of them much older than Christianity. These prayers are, so to speak, repeating, repeating them aloud or to yourself, man strives to survive the mind or sense of what they contain, and their content. And people can always make up new prayer. For example, a person repeats, "I want to be serious." The thing is, as he says. If he repeats this prayer even ten thousand times a day and think at the same time, as quickly as possible to end the repetition, that he will have for lunch, and the like, there is not a prayer, and self-deception. But this formula can be a prayer, if one repeats the following

way: he says "I" and is trying at this time to think about everything he knows about "me." It does not exist, there is no single "I" is only a crowd of petty, deceitful, quarrelsome "me." But he wants to be a single "I", Mr., and he remembers the cart, the horse, the driver and master. Saying "I want", he thinks about the meaning of the phrase "I want." Can he want? It always "wants something or does not want." But this "want" or "do not want" it seeks to oppose their own "I want", associated with the objectives of the work on the other, ie, enter in the usual combination of two forces - the "it wants" and "it does not want to" - the third force. "Being" - a person thinks about what it means to "be" what is the meaning of "being", being a mechanical man with whom everything happens, and being a person who is able to do. So "to be" perhaps in different ways. He wants "to be" not just in the sense of existence, but in the sense of grandeur and strength. And the word "be" becomes for him a special weight, a new meaning. "Seriously" - a person thinks about what it means to be serious. It is very important, as he himself is responsible for this. If he knows what it means, if properly define for themselves what it means to be serious if feels really want this, then his prayer can give the result - in the sense that it be added strength, he will often ignore their frivolity, it is easier to overcome himself and forced to be serious. In exactly the same way one can "pray", saying:

"I want to remember myself." "Remember" - which means "remember"? A person has to think about memory. How little he remembers! How often he forgets that he decided to saw, you know! His life would have been different if he could remember. All diseases come from the fact that he does not remember. "Himself" - he comes back to her. Which of his "I" want to remember it? Should I just remember you? How could he discern that want to remember? The idea of ​​work! How can they connect with the idea of? - And so on and so forth.

"In Christian worship a lot of prayers, where you have to think about every word. But they lose all meaning, the significance, if they are repeated or sung mechanically.

"Take an ordinary prayer:" Lord, have mercy on me! "What does this mean? The man cries out to God. He must think a little, make a comparison and ask yourself - what is God and what is he? He then asks God to pardon him. But for this, God must think of him, miss him. Is it worth it to notice it? That it is such as would be worth to think about? And who is to think about it? - God himself! You see, all these thoughts and many more have to go through his mind when he utters this simple prayer. And then these thoughts can do for him what he asks of God. But what he is able to think and what result can give a prayer, if he just repeats like a parrot, "Lord, have mercy! Lord, have mercy! Lord, have mercy! "You know that it will not give any results.



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Humility - virtue, opposite pride, and one of the most important virtues. In spiritual life, reflected in the fact that people in all circumstances, is at peace with himself and God, and does not elevate himself above anyone else , has at its heart the belief that all being accomplished by the will of God that all the spiritual merit grant him only God , and is in love to the neighbor.

No other word is not understood in the true unbelievers , as the word "humility". By humility often completely wrong , mean oppression, humiliation , guilt , inability and unwillingness to defend, where required , the dignity of man. And the meaning of the verb " to humble " is generally understood as a synonym for " humiliating ." But this is completely wrong understanding of humility as a virtue. No other virtue does not mean so much , and at the same time , does not so difficult as this.
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