St. Petersburg artists sue Sergei Bugaev (Afrika)

[Ирина Ивановна]

Such a move , it seems to me quite possible , only the word " win-win " in this case does not seem appropriate. It is obvious that the authors are not profitable and beneficial to the defendant , at least for saving face . And then, to make a gift to the museum , it should be correct from a legal point of view, to execute documents , or pictures of the museum simply can not accept. It can be a CC under the current contract only the transfer of exclusive rights to the work, and they already have the authors , even if physically they do not have pictures . So Cyril Syzransky absolutely right.
Bugaev may be advised to return the paintings to artists , signing a settlement agreement by which the authors of one picture to select authors will leave him on the dedication . Then even than that will own legal.

[Hollandup]

When I was a conversation about the purchase installation Sergei Australian Museum and it's not the first to purchase them , it was clear from the conversation . Behind this long-standing relationship between the directors of contemporary art museums around the world who know each other and a group of artists , where Sergei , except that he's just an artist, plays an important role of the mediator , promotes, PR, talks in other languages.
He is a very talented presents a picture of contemporary Russian art communities in English and brings to himself and other artists sincere interest . That's what I was witnessing .
Friends , we must await the decision of the court or some objectivity in this difficult dispute with the artists , because you can easily make a mistake , judging by the scant information . There may be a trivial jealousy, exaggeration, long-standing grudges , and can and immorality in the agreements .
Life situations in the art business are different. Heard (ibid. in Africa ) from sterligovtsev that 50 of their paintings are in Japan , after the show , they can not take away for many years. Transportation costs money .. They say , like in safe hands , but who knows .. then impute costs for storage , etc. and " zanykat " pattern.
At one time , I think of sincere motives Sergey , along with other organized exhibitions , spending on transportation , any expenses around when the art is not so much appreciated and the artists themselves were willing to work under any conditions .. and Africa had " bounce " for all that would carry it all , and now his friends, artists require their pictures back, not because of its contribution , it hurt him . Resentment (not ownership ) of both sides! in this dispute is the root .. The artists also a shame that due to their art and to support Africa has achieved such success and communicates at a high level, can also " rusty friends " .. In any case, it is not commonplace thief , that's not fair , I personally really hope .

[Ирина Ивановна]

Сообщение от Hollandup

At one time , I think of sincere motives Sergey , along with other arranged the exhibition , spending on transportation , any costs around,

In his exhibition organizers " new" were : TEII in Leningrad , the Consulate of Sweden in Leningrad , along with some sort of Komsomol functionaries and Paul Judelson Arts New York. Last , working with Bugaev , also did not return a lot of artists work. So spend more.
Art then very much appreciated , was a boom in the art of perestroika . Because it Bugaev and then appeared in an artistic environment , because he understood benefit where the currency is spinning .

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the artists themselves were willing to work under any conditions ..

On what , what their obvoruyut , pictures will be hidden for a quarter century to forget about them as soon as possible ? Tempting prospect . And then , the conditions offered not Bugaev , and organizers of exhibitions, he - an ordinary member .

[Hollandup]

And .. what?
if the artist gave (not sold) his paintings large and small museums, it detracts from his art?

Even if his pictures do no one bought it, what does it mean in the long-that account?

[Ирина Ивановна]

Сообщение от Hollandup

. and Africa had to " bounce " for all ,.

He jumped up exclusively for themselves , as bounced , so immediately began to exhibit only one or a couple with Novikov . The rest of the former " New " also began to exhibit themselves.

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but who knows .. then impute costs for storage , etc. and " zanykat " pattern.

Charges for storage attributes to only the court , this fact should not be " zanykivanie " paintings, and should pay costs.

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Сообщение от Hollandup

. Either way, it is not commonplace thief , that's not fair . In any case, I personally really hope .

If we were talking about banal theft , it would have been a criminal trial, while the case is under the Civil Code . Therefore, injustice , which you mention, from a legal point of view has no place to be. And the moral of all of its own .

[Hollandup]

It is to this , and I hope that the words of the BOP will be used cautiously.
Still, this is a dispute between friends , and creative people that are the cultural heritage (some more , some less )
and more .., from the participants of this site we expected maximum objectivity in judgment , because here there are specialists in the field of art, not the media , which often turns the information on its head

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Hollandup

It is to this, and I hope that the words of the BOP will be used cautiously.

So let 'friends and creative people "is a word pronounced careful, but with a worldly point of view Bugaev Africa - BOP.

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Сообщение от Fed

africa-Bugaev - the most expensive artist from St. Petersburg

Here is another:
 
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Vladimir Shinkarev - his "Lenin Square" went for $ 64,634, which is also more expensive Bugaevskiy record.

[Fed]

As expected, on Bugaevo artists decided not to stop .
Irina says that Inal Savchenko now refuses to sell them works of authorship :

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I assume that when directly Inala recently asked whether Turkina bought his paintings in his collection , or maybe he gave it to her himself , the answer was negative.

Even witnesses to the buyer will not help :

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is kind of silly Inal and Victor with Olesya agreed with me personally

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But still , not making this up .

Detective artists expropriating continues.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Fed, do not pull out of someone else's conversation of people in one subject any individual phrases and build on them comfortable conclusions for themselves.

[Fed]

And what do you there was a conversation ?
- That's not the individual phrases , and everything:

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Presented at the auction version of the " Fox " is now available for auction directly from the author , so with this " story " everything is OK, but not on , for example, the employee Turkina belt .

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And what exactly have Olesya not so good ... yes she has a 2 in Inala purchased from the website

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Inal recently when directly asked whether Turkina bought his paintings in his collection , or maybe he gave it to her himself , the answer was negative.

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is kind of silly Inal and Victor with Olesya agreed with me personally ...
Who asked and why ... this is just ridiculous . do not invent .

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But still , not making this up .

I do not know what you are interpreting . I can make only one assumption : now exhibited at the auction " Fox" Savchenkova . He probably wants to sell it more expensive. And then it turns out that a famous person is another fox hanging .
There is the idea that these successful foxes ponadelal car . The potential buyer can be diminished desire to spread the maximum amount for the limited edition work.
Therefore, it was stated on behalf of Savchenkova that other foxes are from nowhere.