How to unleash the artist

[Jasmin]

Сообщение от Pavel

Is that better?

You could.

Сообщение от Pavel

and 11.
It is necessary to have the talent, hard work and the widest erudition, and of artistic taste.
The rest will follow.

I think the most important point 11.
The others - in the circumstances.


And 12 - Good Luck.
 
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[Fed]

Сообщение от Artoil-A

in Russia in the 80's and 90's the artist in Moscow received about the same relative fees for the painting.

Are you saying that the non-conformists in the 80 to 2000 cost the district.
for a picture?

[Artoil-A]

Сообщение от Fed

Are you saying that the non-conformists in the 80 to 2000 cost the district.
for a picture?

No.
I'm talking about the average.
According to your question, as I remember some artists who came on overseas sales, received fees of hundreds of thousands of dollars, for example G. Bruskin.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Fed; 2722761 "

Are you saying that the non-conformists in the 80 to 2000 cost the district . for a picture ?

In 1984, VAZ 21013 cost 5300 rubles;
 "Zaporozhets ZAZ - 968M " (not hunchbacked ) - 3500 rubles;
 "Lada VAZ - 01" cost about 5000 rubles;
 "Volga" GAZ -24 was worth 15,595 rubles;
 " Peugeot 407 " - 2511 rubles. 25 kopecks . ;
 "Moskvich -2138 " has cost 7,400 rubles;
 VAZ "Field" - 10500 rubles;
 2107 (the most expensive of the "LAD" ) - 9770 rubles.

[манна]

Сообщение от Seriy

This is a skolzsky question .... The real story of how Van Gogh's mother dumped in the yard of a bunch of his paintings , that were taken by anyone who needs to, which is not taken away, burned - will be the sword of Damocles hanging over such judgment.
 B You probably would not have taken, because the artist was considered quite useless , and the idea of ​​an investment in the Van Gogh Museum in general was beyond consciousness.
 Attempts friends unleash Marsden Hartley always ended in failure , well , poor artist , no gift is not necessary . Now - a pillar of American modernism .

Normal question ... nothing slippery ...

You can say a lot , about the example of Van Gogh ( about Hartley just do not know)

- The exception proves the rule

- Is 0.00001 %of the .....

- If he had not died in the prime , then .....

Etc.

But if I were an artist , you certainly would have preferred version of " domoklovym sword" ... <! - ~ 1 ~ -> <! - ~ 5 ~ -> <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Artoil-A; 2722801 "

No . I'm talking about the average . According to your question, as I remember some artists who came on overseas sales , received fees of hundreds of thousands of dollars , for example G. Bruskin .

Again nonsense. Bruskin was valued at Sotheby's in the hundreds of thousands, and as he got- a mystery until now.
Nonkonformy in Soviet times, lived well . They received fees , salaries , etc., other than that they were buying , foreigners and expensive. It was then that they began to say that abroad they would receive "thousands of $ , not rubles as here in the scoop ." That rushed after Desert Storm depreciated and still tsenyattsa only to leave the country and that is very narrow not contingent , but the FED .
There was another category of these poor fellows , but it died out . A " collector " lauded as received from several of the other works. He came to quite drunk and brought him a bottle of yogurt. That's all. In general, during the Soviet period there were many ways to make the artists and paintings over and over and just gave pieces.

[Артём]

Сообщение от Fed; 2722701 "

Do not really understand

Today, try to untwist Soutine ( s) . And you will see . Time is an important factor , it includes a host of other factors. Today - as I wrote. Furthermore, we must deeply study the life and work of H.S.Sutina . What is our Wanderers without Tretyakov, etc. I do not argue, it's a no brainer.

[манна]

Сообщение от Artem ; 2722321 "

I love this argument . ) )) But it works in the environment of the pros, but they do not explain , and very few of them . In most cases, it does not work as picture, for good money , rich people are buying , and this argument works for the poor, who do not buy the painting .

- About the poor agree.
- And where you are "average" Delhi? We really rich have consultants pros (if they are not one-time purchase) . A medium well find the money . As a general rule .
Is that when taking on gifts , then yes . This argument is irrelevant.

[Artoil-A]

Сообщение от Pavel

Again nonsense. Bruskin was valued at Sotheby's in the hundreds of thousands, and as he got- a mystery until now.
Nonkonformy in Soviet times, lived well ..

Yes, you are smart , beautiful and mighty ... Ordinary successful artists are not stretched for nonconformists , not being able to go to the West . As for foreign exchange sales, there was a so-called ruble cover foreign currency accounts ...
Profitable to easily receive thousands of rubles. A decent salary in the state sector was considered in 200 rubles.

[манна]

Сообщение от Artem

Time is an important factor,

With this agree.

There is a feeling that in our time the art has become more of a business than it was then.
 
To top Fed and, we must add your probably the first item.