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Старый 13.10.2010, 12:55 Язык оригинала: Русский       #301
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The train came to understand the reasons for my rejection EXP - the whole thing in the title.
If it would be called a credit rating "One HR" and "XP ZAGRAEVSKY" - all questions have been shot themselves.
And the name of the maker would be perpetuated.



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Старый 13.10.2010, 13:30 Язык оригинала: Русский       #302
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As for "something new" - I think that international art rating is the very "new."
I look forward ... Well-x bike with three square wheels - than we are, you are not art "? I think will take place in someone's (collection).

and if it still manage to reporters before the ride - a good performance.

the only thing I would like something you would (exp) went to meet the artists who do not wish to participate in the ranking. I think if in the end it will be a list of "refusing to participate in the exp it would be on your side honestly toward them. due to the fact that I can not come to you in the office and submit an application please do not include me in the rankings. I hope this public statement would be enough for you. please.




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Старый 13.10.2010, 14:01 Язык оригинала: Русский       #303
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the whole country loudly, in an accessible and applicable to all artists form to declare: Rabin - is Rabin, and Shilov - it Shilov!
I'm not a fan of the Shilov and know me, many will disagree, but, oddly enough, Shilov and Rabin, in a sense been "on the same side" regarding the previous government ... I mean, Shilov and Glazunov took themes objectionable previous indication of power. Shilov, became the first to write glamorous portraits, all very professional, that is what made him so popular. A Glazunov first took a Christian theme and it brought him popularity ... Both were not "sotsovskimi" themes.

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We have every right not to respond to those statements.
You quote "myself", but the general law may look different on the use of someone's name "for personal gain" (as it is formulated, if you sell the results of using these names, and without them the subject of the sale there). If someone wants to mess (ie suing) ...
You are registered as mass media? But the media only provide information, without count (except, of course, the direct violation of the Act).

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And what about "something new" - I think that international art rating is the very "new."
 Whom you intend to offer? I do not at Sotheby's it?
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Старый 13.10.2010, 14:26 Язык оригинала: Русский       #304
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Is it possible you have another question on statistics ask?
How many in this ranking will be artists from Japan and from China? I have these 2 countries are particularly interested in, and you probably have access to a draft version of the ranking?
In general, an interesting statistic. Total in the world rankings will be 10 thousand artists category 3 or above, of which more than 2 thousands of ex-USSR, which is about 20%. In my opinion, too much, and in fact this is an indication that not all of our local got its 3 categories deserved. Although in terms of patriotic and may be ...
It really was a very sensitive issue in all debates - that we have about a fifth of RHR from MHR. Well, the rating that we are not prepared in New York and in Moscow, so that a certain bias towards the native Penates inevitable.
But on the other hand, some countries according to the riches of art history, we can compare with Russia? Four or five, and then different in different epochs. In addition, the USSR was the only "patronage" by the state, and the percentage composition of the artists there had been much higher than the world average.
So all in all, I think. everything is fine. MHR will - yet time to discuss, I hope.

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I'm not a fan of the Shilov and know me, many will disagree, but, oddly enough, Shilov and Rabin, in a sense been "on the same side" regarding the previous government ... I mean, Shilov and Glazunov took themes objectionable previous indication of power. Shilov, became the first to write glamorous portraits, all very professional, that is what made him so popular. A Glazunov first took a Christian theme and it brought him popularity ... Both were not "sotsovskimi" topics.
"Market" in the Soviet era was not only "sotse. Generally speaking, "social" in its literal sense, after the "severe style" was no longer so dominant, even in the minds of party ideology. So here, again, can only be treated individually.

And think about finding Shilov and Glazunov in category "B" it is unlikely that anyone having an objection. This is a relatively Bragovskogo, Žilina, Zverkova, Grits or Salakhova still be arguing.

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You quote "myself", but the common law may look different on the use of someone's name "for personal gain" (as it is formulated, if you sell the results of using these names and not their subject matter no sale). If someone wants to mess (ie suing) ...
You are registered as mass media? But the media only provide information, without count (except, of course, the direct violation of the law).
Art. 47 "Law on Mass Media says it is about the judgments and estimates. And no personal gain here, too, no: the rights and duties of media owners (ZAGRAEVSKY in this case) is clearly stated in the same law, and generally operates at the RC-profit organization - PSC.

The same example: here is the newspaper wrote about a noble combiner and gave him evaluate what he zamechatelnyy.Tak that - and this newspaper in court to drag that used the name of the combiner in order to reap the benefits?

I do not worry, if for us at least somewhere you could legally undermine, over the 11 years of ratings and many thousands of disgruntled priori we would be inundated with lawsuits

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 Whom you intend to offer? I do not at Sotheby's there?
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The train came to understand the reasons for my rejection EXP - the whole thing in the title. If it would be called a credit rating "One HR" and "XP ZAGRAEVSKY" - all questions have been shot themselves. And the name of the maker would be perpetuated.
This is not only ZAGRAEVSKY rating! Do not forget about the Cantor Meylanda, Martynova, Klimenko, Gilodo, Severyukhina and many others? Yes, and I do not forget, I am also a member of the RC

"Work it, Vanya, was scary was enormous - not up one! (C) Nekrasov

Can certainly be called "Rating behalf ZAGRAEVSKY" "I think it would be nice




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Старый 13.10.2010, 14:50 Язык оригинала: Русский       #305
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Four or five, and then different in different epochs.
In addition, the USSR was the only "patronage" by the state, and the percentage composition of the artists there had been much higher than the world average.
But now only in New York 500,000 artists (!!!) and 1100 galleries.

About the museum did not say.
 



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Старый 13.10.2010, 14:57 Язык оригинала: Русский       #306
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. You personally and your union the names of those moral monsters, as it turns out, is unknown .....
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Still others create masterpieces that they sang praises to yet another bloody Herod the twentieth century by the name of Dzhugashvili, turning ugly monster into an angel of heaven. On canvas and in the minds of the masses.
Dear, entitled "Tyrants in the art, we've already discussed more than once .. http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...6335&highlight =%D0%93%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BE
And what about the painter El Greco (and he was court painter for the inquisitors), and one of his most famous works: "Portrait of the Inquisitor Nino de Guevara (c. 1600, New York, Metropolitan Museum), the cost of this work, tens of millions. ue, and it is a masterpiece of art, world-class.
And it's just a portrait of the Grand Inquisitor Nino de Guevara (burning at the stake hundreds of women, children)? On your poluchaetsya that El Greco moral monster ..?, But you must understand that it's a real nonsense ..
1.Na photo Portrait Inquisitor Nino de Guevara (c. 1600, New York, Metropolitan Museum of Art) by El Greco.
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Старый 13.10.2010, 15:46 Язык оригинала: Русский       #307
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Dear, entitled "Tyrants in the art, we've already discussed more than once .. on the forum.
How to be a painter El Greco? (And he was court painter for the inquisitors), and one of his most famous works: "Portrait of the Inquisitor Nino de Guevara (c. 1600, New York, Metropolitan Museum), the cost of the work scores mill.u.e, and it is masterpiece painting of world importance.
And it's just a portrait of the Grand Inquisitor Nino de Guevara (burning at the stake hundreds of women, children)? On your turns out that the artist El Greco moral monster ..?, But you must understand that it's a real nonsense ..
1.Na photo Portrait Inquisitor Nino de Guevara (c. 1600, New York, Metropolitan Museum of Art) by El Greco.
Well, it is El Greco - not Hitler in terms of villainy ", and Hitler - not in terms of El Greco painting. IMHO (this is my own unofficial estimate!) Typical 5V. Given the popularity in other areas could probably get a 3B.



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(burning at the stake hundreds of women, children)

You too are a prisoner of the Soviet literature.



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Старый 13.10.2010, 16:03 Язык оригинала: Русский       #309
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Olga Ozolin, here with Hitler?
Release party forum under the nickname of "curious" moral monsters - are artists in the creation of which there are portraits of Stalin, Lenin, Trotsky and other murderous tyrants of the 20 th century ..

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You too are a prisoner of the Soviet literature.

Spanish Inquisition

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Olga Ozolin, thanks, but in Japan and China was not yet possible to say?



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