How to unleash the artist - Страница 309 - Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

Artoil-A · 19.08.2013, 12:19

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And as they unwind? Subject then forget about it.
Your promise of promotion is - to be able to draw, have the technical skills to artnau + accommodation.
Right?
After this, the artist can be considered and promoted its prices are higher (than before artnau and ability to draw?)?

Pavel in this thread is not about creativity and immortality, and about the methods of promotion.

I have watched the success of one landscape - the artist T. ..., colleagues of the artist from the list, even studied with him.
First of all, hit the speed of sales on the open market. A few days of exposure - drove middleman from neighboring countries and purchased work.
The artist exhibited everywhere and outdoors, and in the galleries. Then, in Moscow, it was about 200 galleries. Galleries of high level (for exposure and equipment) had a dozen. To sales in the western galleries, he did not hold out.
If he was young, some coloristic and compositional defects it could be eliminated. Fifteen years later, the artists from the list I see that the defects are gradually eliminated.
That is the first stage of promotion for quick sale price of about $ 1,000 for the average of the national art gallery in the network. Interestingly, this artist T. ..
exhibited at group shows seem to Muzeon, but the trade is not carried out through an intermediary - the gallery owner, and himself from the stand next to Muzeon.
From the talk, occasional exhibitions contributed little to sales. More effectively contributed to the gallery's permanent presence in the network and open areas.
In Soviet times, it was possible to organize a sale abroad through foreign trade structure, but the first attempt to directly show the backwardness of the Russian school of art and color science, and topics, compositions, and design ... On the elimination of these defects took 10 - 15 years.
Accordingly, go to the western market with the primitive "on duty" with flowers,
simplified compositions think irrationally - will be low starting price, the order of thousands of dollars.
About the same price with less effort achieved in the national network ..

As for the online promotion, then as an element of promotion admit, but it is necessary to evaluate the picture to see the quality of primer and quality multilayer painting itself.
Photography is not transmitting

Konstantin · 19.08.2013, 12:47

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I was watching the success of a landscape

Getting a good, just wondering where it was and that now.

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artist exhibited everywhere and outdoors, and in the galleries.

How did he do it?
This is the main issue.

Seriy · 19.08.2013, 13:22

Guardian of dill, I am an artist , yes, I see someone from the ears grow in the picture, but appreciate - good or bad from the point of view of eternity , or in today's market , I can not. Me and my work can not estimate , which is better and which is worse? Well , except that sometimes .. Assessment of artistic quality or market potential let them do the critics , curators and art dealers , auction - selectors they stoned eyes more on the reaction of the public.
Of just what is seen at shows like Purlik , Kokurin, a good level and scope - Salah , Tsereteli. Among Russian artists , but living abroad a lot of very good ones. But there is something so to speak , it is necessary to constantly monitor , keep a card index to compare - it's not my job , and above his comrades.

Artoil-A · 19.08.2013, 13:31

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Getting a good, just wondering where it was and that now.

How did he do it? That's the big question.

This was around 1995. Now I've lost contact with him. He disappeared from the Internet.
It began like all the Arbat in the late 80's. He was fond of photographic-type landscape. But switched to classical technique with a landscape design techniques. It gives an idea of the work of Gennady Grits. In fact, the head of the simulated landscape. Who sent him to not know. It lies somewhat outside the traditional Moscow school. According dryish closer to Leningrad.
At the time, there was a shortage of commercial work and go to gallery owners was easy, they were looking for a competitive artists. Judging by his own stand, he did not associate himself with exclusive contracts. Had a tendency to create his studio. But the artists of equal level was difficult to find. At its booth were two such artist.
In technical terms, is obvious in-depth analysis and use of certain techniques Shishkin.
According to the experience after a few copies, and he gave me a camera to take pictures of paintings resolution 3500h4500 pixels. is entered in this technique. But it is not easy. T. .. a copy of my criticized for simplicity. Now this technology is already looks archaic.

Пулемётчик Ганс · 19.08.2013, 13:32

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Guardian of dill, I am an artist , yes, I see someone from the ears grow in the picture, but appreciate - good or bad from the point of view of eternity , or in today's market , I can not . Me and my work can not estimate , which is better and which is worse? Well , except that sometimes .. Assessment of artistic quality or market potential let them do the critics , curators and art dealers , auction - selectors they stoned eyes more on the reaction of the public.
Of just what is seen at shows like Purlik , Kokurin, a good level and scope - Salah , Tsereteli. Among Russian artists , but living abroad a lot of very good ones. But there is something so to speak , it is necessary to constantly monitor , keep a card index to compare - it's not my job , and the above companions .

I am pleased and promises interesting artists who give examples of their colleagues on the shop floor. Respect to you !

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Thank you for being openly share .. it is important to understand.

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Fedu : Just bought me at the gallery for $ 300 ( very lucky !) .

The size of less than 20 cm cardboard .

The artist is still alive.

The artist is not even a member of the Artists' Union .

Unknown outside of their region ( absolyutno! )

Artcol , if not known, as you figured out ? Just saw in the gallery or the land in the world devoted to a full hearing?
And you wonder what it was hooked , wrestling hot colors?
I am sorry that some questions <! - ~ 1 ~ -> . Very interesting why one work falls to the soul, and the other is yellow card , interferes watch .

Pavel · 19.08.2013, 14:16

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This was around 1995.
Now I've lost contact with him.
He disappeared from the Internet.

He disappeared from the artistic life, as many example.
Satarov.
This stuff can only sell in the markets of rich gold frames.
Then they seem to just throw away.

Artoil-A · 19.08.2013, 14:25

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He disappeared from the artistic life , as many example . Satarov . This stuff can only sell in the markets of rich gold frames . Then they seem to just throw away .

You demand for the ruble and masterpieces .
We must understand that it was in Soviet art , and how difficult is the way the world level .
This " stuff " bought and will buy a "new" does not pay the cost of the creation and promotion . So T. .. and Satarov and chose the traditional direction . It is chosen and go. Wait two - three generations and see the masterpieces or make them yourself.

Pavel · 19.08.2013, 14:55

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you require masterpieces and for the ruble .
We must understand that it was in Soviet art , and how difficult is the way the world level .
This " stuff " bought and will buy a "new" does not pay the cost of the creation and promotion . So T. .. and Satarov and chose the traditional direction . It is chosen and go. Wait two - three generations and see the masterpieces , or make them yourself .

I'm nothing to you , but you need to have on your example to be seen how not to do .

artcol · 19.08.2013, 15:15

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Artcol , if not known, as you figured out ? Just saw in the gallery or the land in the world devoted to a full hearing?
And you wonder what it was hooked , wrestling hot colors?
I am sorry that some questions <! - ~ 1 ~ -> . Very interesting why one work falls to the soul, and the other is yellow card , interferes look .

I know him personally .
Saw two solo exhibitions .
He fundamentally does not sell the work , and although I was presented to him in his studio - he could not buy directly .
In one of the galleries where his personalka like remembered that it is a job, but do not look came from.
It took several years.
And just recently went to the gallery , and asked her casually , and I got.

A unique artist, a unique work . I was part of a circle of artists - and there are many vytsepil cool work.

манна · 19.08.2013, 15:27

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This is not compatible . There is art is the art of commerce. There is an art to find the art in a huge number of all . For this, and get the money Gader and collectors .

Pavel, I understand it is not compatible with artists? ( Think differently ) . And gallerists /dealers /collectors very consistent ( and wrote about them ) . Moreover, it is always easier to sell something that you most enjoy .

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Then they seem to just throw

What led Artoil-A, ( I really only two looked Goryachev Panova ) this is what the forum in the " price , valuation, attribution " gameday then a verdict - in the furnace <! - ~ 7 ~ -> , but apparently this horror selling well . There is nothing wrong with that. They should at least buy it than anything.

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