Auction house Dorotheum in Manege

[OlegTsi]

SAH, I was referring to was the practice of pulling up the price of the auction lot employees. Earlier in the halls were front men, now it is done telephonist. In the case of such a method, when an employee with a telephone Truk in the hand pulled real buyer, and remained with the latter the Bid (and of course no money to the seller does not pay, although the lot is sold), the seller simply soobschaetsya of evasion ...

[SAH]

Сообщение от OlegTsi

In the case of such a method, when an employee with a telephone Truk in the hand pulled real buyer, and remained with the latter the Bid (and of course no money to the seller does not pay, although the lot is sold), the seller simply soobschaetsya of evasion ...

Yes, and I say that sometimes even very often, this failure is the place to be and from customers. I can not just pull the auctioneer and the owner sits on the phone. and pulls the picture. Auction dull place.

[OlegTsi]

SAH, you are absolutely right Sometimes it happens, but rarely. In this case, the seller is left with a sly unsold work plus the cost to be paid ...
I have seen several cases where the owner of the work himself in the room pulling his hand to buy the work because the work did not find sufficient demand and handled only barrier reserve. A low reserve was made only for the excitement of the public ...

[SAH]

Сообщение от OlegTsi

I have seen several cases where the owner of the work himself in the room pulling his hand to buy the work because the work did not find sufficient demand and handled only barrier reserve. A low reserve was made only for the excitement of the public ...

In principle, the auction rules do not prohibit it, because on it and the auction so that bought the one who will give more, but who would sell himself, or a real client, or can someone from family deliverer did not want rastavatsya with the object and hits (is also the case, privately divide the family could not put up for sale) then it does not matter.

[OlegTsi]

Сообщение от SAH

In principle, the auction rules do not prohibit it

Artificial potdyagivanie prices in favor of either party, and especially of the auction, in some countries, illegal and punishable under the criminal law. (Similarly, as punishable poddelschiki ...)

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от OlegTsi

in some countries, illegal and punishable under the criminal law. (Similarly, as punishable poddelschiki ...)

And you can find out where?

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от OlegTsi

I have seen several cases where the owner of the work himself in the room pulling his hand to buy the work,

I once raised from the floor price of your item. He knew and still do sometimes communicate with the buyer that the bargain and then bought this thing. What was not in the room willing enough, and cheap was sorry to give-a very admirable thing was. Popodnimal to real-in my opinion, the money and departed. : D

[SAH]

Сообщение от OlegTsi

Artificial potdyagivanie prices in favor of either party, and especially of the auction, in some countries, illegal and punishable under the criminal law.

Nothing about this do not know, in any case, it is very, very conditional because prove impossible. Could not he will pull so ask koleggu.

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

What was not in the room rather willing, cheap and sorry was given, very decent thing was. Popodnimal to real-in my opinion, money and "stepped".

[artcol]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

I once raised from the floor price of your item. He knew and still do sometimes communicate with the buyer that the bargain and then bought this thing. What was not in the room willing enough, and cheap was sorry to give-a very admirable thing was. Popodnimal to real-in my opinion, the money and departed.

Very reasonable. What is not forbidden - is allowed.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от OlegTsi

Artificial potdyagivanie prices in favor of either party, and especially of the auction, in some countries, illegal and punishable under the criminal law.

I do not know that the author quotes is because the words "artificial potdyagivanie prices. Being in the room exhibited the lot owner and his participation in the auction to raise prices, the practice of law everywhere applied. There is nothing "artificial" sdes no. Do not give bidders enough for the lot-owner redeem himself, to pay the auction%%, but record the sale on the desired mark, and then everything on the well-known scenario. Year high, auction, new-high, in line with the care-start, etc.