A fire in the center of Moscow Grabar

[Dogel]

In my examination of the work

[Allena]

[SergeiSK]

After almost a day after the fire in the building of the All-Grabar Restoration Center in Moscow on behalf of the danger of fire continues, said a law enforcement source who works on the site of emergency.
'Firefighters have within 20 hours of continuing to work on-site emergency. Currently inside the building is pouring places where the smoke begins to appear from time to time ", - said the source.
He said the firefighters also are dismantling the debris, on-site work and senior representatives of the restoration center.
Journalists were told by a senior center, basement almost completely flooded, and the building has received irreparable damage.
"It is possible that the decision will be made on the restructuring of the entire building. Currently, staff workshop do not miss the police, who continue to keep the building in the cordon ", - said the representative institutions, reports , RIA Novosti.
If the repository is flooded, you can say goodbye to all be there. Or restore a long time.

[Тютчев]

Сообщение от John Preston

Dear Tjutchev, but there is now a real alternative to the Moscow Centre academician Grabar? "Artkonsalting" do not think, because their services are very expensive, examination may be conducted on anything, just to pay, as a result of attributsii artist - zero ...

Dear, John Preston, that the last ten years, "Grabar" dominated the market expertise of works of art, is an incontrovertible fact, but the speaker, probably the immaturity of the market. Judge for yourself, how could it happen that some experts 'shared' between all artists of Russia and the Soviet Union. The abnormality of this state of affairs can be understood in that case, if you try to really delve into the creation of at least one more or less significant artist. This will require a huge amount of time and significant intellectual effort. And imagine what it means to truly explore the art of ten masters, and a hundred? .. From this it can be concluded that to be equally good expert on the long list of Russian artists, namely, and experts believed Centre Grabar impossible. Ie a situation in which the market demand for any, even unimportant artist, examination Centre Grabar. And it is clear that to cope with this task, they were simply unable to. The result was a paradoxical situation: for images that do not have expertise of the Centre Grabar, it was impossible to obtain normal laundering. Consumers did not matter that the examination "Grabar" missing is not always just because the picture is unauthentic, and sometimes because the specialists of the Centre simply do not have the capacity for whatever reasons, to conduct an expert study of this work. In other words, the existing monopoly has become a slow market for works of art.

Of course, a long time so could not continue. And the market began to seek a solution to this complex situation. In recent years a number of events that began to change the situation on the market expertise of works of art. These well-known events, at first sight, may seem unrelated. And, indeed, they were the result of the impact of various factors, ie, at least in some cases, were inspired, and some were the result of a contingency obstayatelstvah. But one thing is certain, that the market is trying to reach a new stage in its development. Fire Center Grabar, I think, it activates these processes.

Is there an alternative to the Centre Grabar? Of course there is. And I think it was always. But there is a situation in which the majority of market participants was useful it is "Grabar" (for reasons of different nature). Now, I repeat, under pressure from many factors, the situation changes.

If we talk about specific organizations working in the market expertise, then today is the "Research peer review the name of Pavel Tretyakov," "Artkonsalting", Russian Museum. Some experts, for example, such as Valera Silaev and Vladimir Petrov, give their private examination, and examination accepted by the market. I think that further to the background of the situation, examination of independent experts accredited to the various organizations (eg, International Confederation of antiquities and art dealer) and simply giving the examination without any accreditation to increase significantly. And here will play the role of personal reputation of the expert, down from his honesty and knowledge. Therefore play an increasing role not only experts (employees of small museums, independent researchers), professionals specialized in the works of various artists and art groups, but also the art dealer who, sometimes, there are some more knowledgeable museum staff. I think in this situation, art dealer are forced to be more concerned about their reputation, because not be able to shift the responsibility for amorphous organization. Buyers will be more careful to look not only at the examination, but also someone who sells art. The market will be more mature.

I think this is the only correct way of market development expertise in the interests and buying and selling works of art. Indeed, in this situation, a greater role is precisely the competence of the expert, rather than its status as it was before.

[John Preston]

Tjutchev, Thank you very much for such a detailed and very objective, in my view, the analysis of the situation.
My question to all forum users: Someone had to deal with scientific research independent examination of the name of Pavel Tretyakov?
Recognised whether their expert advice market, and how they affect the final price of the product?
How long does it took an average of expertise and what are their prices?

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Сообщение от John Preston

Someone had to deal with scientific research independent examination of the name of Pavel Tretyakov?
How long does it took an average of expertise and what are their prices?

Paid for the preliminary examination of the works of experts using MBS, ultraviolet radiation: 500-2500 USD.
Payment for a single work of art:
from 11500-14500 rub. for something "small hudznacheniya" to rub 37000-52000. for something "special hudznacheniya.

Surcharge for chemical analysis:
Graphics-4000rub.;
Painting-7000 rubles;
icon-7000 rubles.

However, rates increased in two:
 for urgent work (3 slave. day);
performing complex operations involving additional. materials;
conducting field work.

[John Preston]

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Moscow, 15.

[Vladimir]

On the tapes came reports that the value in the repository is not affected: http://www.rian.ru/society/20100716/255398737.html

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