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This treatise, probably from the times when Russia was regarded as the birthplace of all - from the elephants and to bath. Truth must stand up for the sake of Europe. There were baths, were also separate, yet a minimum of 200 years before Peter.

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

Right you are saying.
Baths were only in Russia, as, indeed, and terms. Propnigy, frigidarium and ayleptery-Russian inventions ...
 
And these images, illustrations for books astonished overseas visitors Muscovy, who came to Russia to adopt all-all-all from gullible Rusich.

Banja against plague

Harmony with "accommodating landscape" contributed to other types of harmony. Sometimes it violates the "epidemic" and bad harvests.

True, not as much as in Europe, where, because of constant overcrowding and problems with hygiene cases of genuine demographic disaster - such as the Black Death 1347-1353 period. Because of it, Britain and France had even had to interrupt their Hundred Years' War (which they with bulldog tenacity fought with each other not even a hundred, but 116 years). France lost a third of the population from the plague, Britain and Italy - to half, about as serious was the loss of other countries. Historians have concluded that the great plague having come from China and India, surpassing the whole of Western and Central Europe, reaching the most remote places, stopped "somewhere in Poland". Do not "somewhere", but at the boundary of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania (whose population consisted of 90%of the Russian, in connection with which it's being called the Lithuanian Rus), ie, the boundary of baths. A more precise - at the junction of absence and presence of hygiene.

Echoes of "black death" raised when some Russian cities visited by foreigners (primarily Novgorod), but the scale of the disaster has been for the Russian incomparable with those that survived their western neighbors. Even the most serious plague plagues our history - especially in 1603, 1655 m and 1770 - did not cause a demographic crisis for the country.

Swedish diplomat Petray Erlezunda noted in his study of Muscovy, that "plague" often appears on its borders than in inland areas. According to the English doctor, Samuel Collins, lived in Russia nine years when, in 1655 Smolensk was this very sore, "all were amazed, especially since no one remembered anything like this." Leprosy in Russia was a rarity.

Moscow (as well as other cities in Russia) was a big country, but it does mean, like the famous historian Vasily Klyuchevsky that, as befits a Russian village "at every house was a spacious courtyard (with bath) and the garden, and its residents are not knew plenty of water, because there were wells in the yards.

How much could drink water the common people in the cities of Europe, where the public wells until the water in the XIX century there were only some areas (on top of these wells ever caught dead cats and rats)? Forgive me, defenders of ancient piety, but the sanctity soprirodnee those who have in the yard, even the poorest, there is a well and a sauna.

Alexander Goryanin

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Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

Excuse me, comrade. Amateur, at the third picture shows the aunt, who paritsya broom.

As far as I know, the custom in Western Europe is not known.

But, beyond that and is known for! As far as I know, comrade. Begum has lived all his life in Germany, Russia did not happen. Except in Frankfurt (Main), where he lived from 1532, nowhere bath brooms he could not see.

A comrade. Durer, so do yourself a male bath depicted (see). This document -! With signature!

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How much water could use the common people in the cities of Europe, where the public wells until the water in the XIX century there were only some areas (on top of these wells ever caught dead cats and rats)?

... as today
entered the water supply,
The longer
yet the slaves of Rome. (c)

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As far as I know, comrade. Begum has lived all his life in Germany, Russia did not happen.

So there were other and adopted.
All picked up and attributed his ...

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A comrade. Durer, so do yourself a male bath depicted (see). This document -! With signature!

No, it's all by head and share.
It won the water supply valve. Where would he take the XVI century in Europe?
Mistifikasen! (c)

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A comrade. Durer, so do yourself a male bath depicted (see). This document -! With signature!

No, it's all by head and share.
It won the water supply valve. Where would he take the XVI century in Europe?
Mistifikasen! Smutty play can not! Mistifikasen! ...
(c)

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The main symbols of the Georgian capital Tbilisi sulfur baths are. They are located in the old "bath-quarter of the city, which is called -" Abanotubani ", from which almost started pedigree and construction of the capital Tbilisi. In the East Baths were the widest dissemination and universal love. Together with the development of medicine have developed new methods of treatment and cleanliness of the body using a bath treatment and massage. Thanks to the works of Arab scholars, these techniques have contributed to the spread of baths in Georgia, Khiva, Bukhara, Armenia.

Since the time of the ancient kingdom of Urartu in Georgia began to build a sauna with natural steam. This steam Georgians were obtained from the hot springs, rich gray Hot water flowed directly from the rocks in the bath room on a special clay pipes ... This water is filled with marble basins, covered with a dome roof, through which maintenance or soft light. Sami spa located in the caves.

We know that baths were covered with gray porous stone and marble. Joseph Grishashvili, national poet of Georgia, expressed as follows: "Do not go in them - it's like that to come to Paris and not climb the Eiffel Tower. In today's sulfur baths have showers, a swimming pool with fuming sulfuric water with two adjacent stone massage boxes, on which Mackie (bath-house attendant) makes a special massage-wash mitt made of natural Georgian pad, moderately stiff, but not scarring the skin, as well cleaning body.

In the old days people are not only washed, but also talked, sitting up till dawn, and the town matchmaker in the special days arranged bride. In the baths gave dinner parties, to conclude trade deals.

About these baths with enthusiastic Alexandre Dumas, who visited them in their journey to the Caucasus, and even Alexander Pushkin, who wrote in 1829godu: "From the family have not seen either in Russia or in Turkey is nothing more luxurious baths Tiflis." The poet described in detail in their work "Journey to Arzrum.

http://steaman.ru/content/view/18/7/
http://www.advantour.com/rus/georgia...uric-baths.htm

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http://malech.narod.ru/evr3.html

But the information is not for the faint of heart

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Here, it turns out that known! As far as I know, comrade. Begum has lived all his life in Germany, Russia did not happen. Except in Frankfurt (Main), where he lived from 1532, nowhere bath brooms he could not see.

A comrade. Durer, so do yourself a male bath depicted (see). This document -! With signature!

Amateur, M. Begum did not have to go anywhere. Obviously, for him it was enough to take an engraving of his tribesmen Durer and just rebuild it. That is to rearrange the figures of women in some places, while maintaining their posture. Was the method of its principal means of production, I do not know, but that the engraver, which you posted in your post demonstrates precisely this approach (compared to Dürer's engravings).
 
This situation is common for the time when they told or represented by someone retell and redraw the many distortions creating myths about remote countries. Therefore, one can only trust those who were eyewitnesses to what he describes or represents.

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But the information is not for the faint of heart

Well, it was not so bad:
http://www.ateismy.net/content/sprav...znaja_tema.php
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badekultur

Сообщение от Tjutchev

So you can only trust those who were eyewitnesses to what he describes or represents.

The engraving in the men's bath on the left - he Dürer (ie, an eyewitness, how else do you prove it? Photos, there was no ). In his diaries, he often mentions his visit to the baths, in particular, in Aachen, and the fact that a visit to a spa (Badstube) cost him every time vaysspfenniga 3. Since this reference is dated October, it is unlikely that this occurred in the open air. By the way, 3 vayspfenniga (or shtyubera) - while it was not so cheap. So much, for example, cost of the Durer engraving from the series "Big passion".

But such a composition Begum - just not with Durer:

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The engraving in the men's bath on the left - he Dürer (ie, an eyewitness, how else do you prove it? Photos, there was no ). In his diaries, he often mentions his visit to the baths, in particular, in Aachen, and the fact that a visit to a spa (Badstube) cost him every time vaysspfenniga 3. Since this reference is dated October, it is unlikely that this occurred in the open air. By the way, 3 vayspfenniga (or shtyubera) - while it was not so cheap. So much, for example, cost of the Durer engraving from the series "Big passion".

Amateur, if you carefully read my text, you should have to understand that I am not writing about Durer's woodcut, and engraving on Begam. Namely, that the Begum suffered almost unchanged figures with engravings by Durer in his engraving. Or do you want to refute that assertion?

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Why deny the obvious ... Begum since beginning in Nuremberg, all is clear.

Still, the roads were then bath (although the water in Aachen was considered medicinal). It is terrible to imagine what would have happened if the baths are now worth as much as engraving Durer ...

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And how do you please explain the presence trapocheh on polovyhyh member? (Washing not be?)

At the beginning of XVI century, the Spaniards brought to Europe from America syphilis. Treat while it could not. Syphilis is spreading through the water. Therefore, the melting (a total wash tub, indeed, not be). Distribution of this serious, often fatal disease, mostly, and led to widespread closure of public baths in Europe.