Shishkin

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Originally Posted by sergejnowo

A "Korobelnaya Grove"?

What grove?

TONNAGE GROVE - Forest, consisting of high-mast trees used in shipbuilding. Originally. so-called. parts of the forest, who served under Peter I for korablestroit. needs. The surviving remnants of these woods in the beginning. 1900 turned into reserves: Shipov Khrenovoe forest and pine forest to the VA from the top. Don, Tellermanovskaya grove in the Voronezh region., K. R. near Zelenogorsk in Leningrad. region.

And this Shishkin wrote in Tatarstan, is e mark it on one of the sketches:

"Ship Afonasovskaya grove near Yelabuga".

[Konstantin]

Shipov forest and Khrenovoe boron

We are pleased to have looked at the picture Shishkina - Khrenovoe boron.

Here's the result of uncontested sale great work (the indicator of investment risk - green).

The name Forest Glade
Year of establishment 1896
Category Paintings
Technique Canvas, oil
Size, cm 119x170, 8
Provenance --
Note Signed in Russian and the date "Shishkin 1896" at the bottom right.
Indicator of investment risk
Auctioning
Title The Forest Clearing
Date 18/04/2008
Auction house Christies, New York, Rockefeller Plaza
Lot 16
Estimate 1 000 000 - 1 400 000 USD (632 431 - 885 403 EUR, 501 454 - 702 036 GBP)
Result 3 177 000 USD (2 009 233 EUR, 1 593 120 GBP)
 
Title Forest clearance
Date 30/11/2005
Auction house Christies, London (GB)
Lot 134
Estimate 300 000 - 500 000 GBP (518 820 - 864 700 USD, 440 051 - 733 418 EUR)
Result 736 000 GBP (1 272 838 USD, 1 079 591 EUR)

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Konstantin, why do two things and one 8-year, and the next as much 5-th?
Says same expert:

Originally Posted by Tjutchev

Shishkin's works are rare, as the work of any artist's first series. But they still are on the market.

And then once you have shown very little sales.
Although, I think, Shishkin's paintings do not fall for auction, and sold in his inner circle shishkinoznaev and shishkinovedov.

Originally Posted by Tjutchev

It is necessary to know the kitchen! If you are interested, ask a professional. It is not easy and it is not devoted to the many.

Got Tepe ... Attribution, appraisal, paintings Shishkinat "is not easy" and "devoted to a few people" ...

[Евгений]

Konstantin, Konstantin, and what is the point of this discussion? Paintings, photographs, data are not .. by the relationship did not go, perhaps it makes sense to just 1-2 days to remove such soobscheniya.Obsudit creativity Shishkina? be a new (normal) to open a theme ..

[Sandro]

Originally Posted by Tjutchev

 You say that to prove the authenticity of this work Shishkin's impossible! Erroneous assertion. This view is imposed specifically. There are people who imposes it through the media. And then it spreads all over the world greedy for grilled by journalists hungry for gossip and blather (both are natural in this do not understand). All that you wrote this tale, who love to tell sellers of contemporary art to its potential victims. Nothing to do with reality they are not!

Shishkina Pts. easy to confirm (this course), for example Grabar, there is a large set of standard X-rays, so it's simple and easy - tell almost immediately - take a job or not.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Originally Posted by Eugene

what is the point of this discussion??

And why not listen to the experts, the connoisseurs? It is always helpful, superfluous knowledge are not.
The point of this discussion is the same as any other-knowledge, exchange views, information.

[Konstantin]

For 2009 there are a few records, but the result is, basically, not sold.
And things are doubtful.

Konstantin, why do two things and one 8-year, and the next as much 5-th?

is the sales results of one painting. In 2005, over 1 272 838 USD in 2008 to 3 177 000 USD

Someone must be congratulated on a good zarobotkom for two years with a small $ 2 million.

Constantine, and what is the point of this discussion? Paintings, photographs, data are not available .. the author (fasting) on the link did not come out, perhaps there is a sense within 1-2 days to remove such soobscheniya.Obsudit creativity Shishkina? be a new (normal) to open a theme ..

I agree, and will do, if the author will not respond, all moved to a separate topic.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Originally Posted by Konstantin

I agree, and do.

Close this topic?

[Konstantin]

Do you want to close this topic?

Not yet. Ждемс ...
But I think the author does not lay out the picture after our violent reaction. Then all the arguments about the merits and demerits Shishkina endure to the "artists".
Roller with Volochkova liked.

[sergejnowo]

Originally Posted by Cyril Syzransky

in his inner circle shishkinoznaev and shishkinovedov

and that you have devised or is already known terminalogiya?

Originally Posted by Cyril Syzransky

Do you want to close this topic?

and correctly, protect shishkinoznaev and shishkinovedov, it's like the environment.