What distinguishes the true artist from not present?

[artcol]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

I snova vopros, a tak li uz nepredvziaty art kritiki, iskusstvovedy, istoriki?

Spoken word - is a lie

Сообщение от AlexanderG

Ved 'oni toze liudi, i prosto vyskazyvaiut svoio mnenie.

Yes, they are people, but they are professionals. This is another hypostasis rights.

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от artcol

Yes, they are people, but they are professionals. This is another hypostasis rights.

Professionaly ili net, no kak sporit 'o vkusah?

Vopros ne prostoi. Mozno govorit 'o znachimosti i pr, no esli cheloveku eto prosto ne nravitsia?

[artcol]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

Professionaly ili net, no kak sporit 'o vkusah?

Vopros ne prostoi. Mozno govorit 'o znachimosti i pr, no esli cheloveku eto prosto ne nravitsia?

Well, they taste like apriri the public, and pro armed with more advanced verbal and analytical apparatus.
If you do not like - justifies the pros, and it will be criticized. And as you know, public criticism is always a plus (the laws of PR - the main thing to say). And from this criticism can be repelled, at least to think people will be able to something, and read between the lines.

Shl There probably rather talk about beliefs, personal relationships and komm.interese.

[Валерий Рыбаков]

Сообщение от iside

Yes, I think many of the artists present at this forum adhere to this formula, I'm good - but you are bad "

I do not take this formula ...

I do not think that I'm good. I'll be good when stop sovershenstvovatsya (uprus in a certain "creative ceiling). When I see that there is no development in my work - then I'll sit down and say quietly to himself "I'm good "
I hope it will be quite not soon!


And other people I do not judge: good or bad - but I have people judge

[iside]

Сообщение от Valery Rybakov

I do not take this formula ...

Valery, I do not think about you, when I wrote .. many artists on this forum do not worry.

artcol, you discuss the criticism, but there is also a dimension, when they sing praises.
Clearly it is clear that very few people interested in spending developed their verbal and analytical apparatus to the criticism of the artist or the direction in painting, really turns piaraktsiya. But when they start razdavtsya voices in unison, that is: 1 - suddenly found a new genius? 2 - someone started a major promotion, and the other picked up the note - you write about fashion, he'll be fashionable? 3rd etc. etc. ?

I say in this case of living artists, with the level of prices, well, let's say 30 thousand U.S. dollars and above.

[artcol]

Сообщение от iside

artcol, you discuss the criticism, but there is also a dimension, when they sing praises.
Clearly it is clear that very few people interested in spending developed their verbal and analytical apparatus to the criticism of the artist or the direction in painting, really turns piaraktsiya. But when they start razdavtsya voices in unison, that is: 1 - suddenly found a new genius? 2 - someone started a major promotion, and the other picked up the note - you write about fashion, he'll be fashionable? 3rd etc. etc. ?
I say in this case of living artists, with the level of prices, well, let's say 30 thousand U.S. dollars and above.

Praises - the same criticism, only on the other hand . And also to be tested adekvatnot and viability: can - a genius, but can - promotion. Anything can happen. Must proceed from the concrete. Most of the intrigue is simple geniuses little
In OS uses the notion of secondary manipulator (in Russian - arguer). It is used to describe the third case - when the plot is so captures the man that he was working for the interests of the primary manipulator (eg, creativity Hirst). This phenomenon is very widespread in society, the main symptom - altruistic fanaticism in ostaivanii anything. Another thing is that the institution of art is very conservative and /or closed, and there is often all Rasha behind the scenes, through the communication /dating /relationship or on call. But to work on the market in any case a PR.

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от Valery Rybakov

I'll be good when stop sovershenstvovatsya (uprus in a certain "creative ceiling). When I see that there is no development in my work - then I'll sit down and say quietly to himself "I'm good "

Valerii, ne obizaites ', no v etom sluchae drevnie pili sok tsikuty (konchali zizn' samoubiistvom), tk dvizenie ostanavlivalos'.

Added after 10 minutes
Vydral tsitatu u Evgeniia:

When the concepts and terms are defined, a person ceases to be afraid of "incomprehensible" in the art. His level of knowledge of artistic material acquires the features of the existing system and a researcher can be called beginner.

I sleduiuschaia:

Each person has their own "scale of values", where combined online banners and the Impressionists, the aesthetics posters performers and masterpieces of ancient art.

I eschio:

Can long demagogic philosophize about the what is the purpose of understanding the monuments of culture and art, but still, under any circumstances is a personal experience of each of the "followers", his personal experience and empathy.

Polnaia ssylka:

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=60391

[Posav]

Сообщение от iside

Yes, I think many of the artists present at this forum adhere to this formula, I'm good - but you are bad "

I do not understand what a blunder you wrote. Of those few artists who are constantly on the forum no one other critics did not. I have not seen this. But from the gallery owners (or rather not even know who they really are) have seen incorrect attacks. Some artists even openly persecuted on the forum. For example, the representative of the Symbolist school in Ukraine.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Posav

For example, the representative of the Symbolist school in Ukraine.

Who is it?
What are the "symbolist" is?
I know the Russian artist Nikolai Mikhailovich Gushchina (1888 - 1965), it is called "the last Russian symbolist.
His two pictures, by the way, showed the artcol in the subject
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=6725

[artcol]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Who is this?
What are the "symbolist" is?
I know the Russian artist Nikolai Mikhailovich Gushchina (1888 - 1965), it is called "the last Russian symbolist.

Gushin - he still multicultural. In his creative influence is present and Russian symbolism (in the aspect of color + Personalized lyricism), and French influence (for a long time he lived in France during the emigration - a purely decorative).