Продам: Anatoly Zverev selfportrait

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

This version did not exist in nature.
This is fantasy!

This print was.

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Сообщение от dedulya37

This was a seal.

I already know, thanks.
Just her "sister" is now placed where not getting ...

[artist]

Returning to Zverev and its attribution. That's tomorrow or after tomorrow, someone (God forbid, a few people) will be able to prove (that is not easy, I admit) that a few works with the conclusion Silaeva - not animals? What will happen with all the other with the same conclusions? When "sboila" museum expertise - so syak: people are different, that is better, the worse the signature on the different instruments .... Until then, it does not cast a shadow on all espertizy, for example GTG. (I think that at all and now does not throw. The reasons above). But, such a "monogamy" - will end badly ... One person will fill up (even inadvertently) the entire market for the author.

[spigo]

Сообщение от artist

ra or after tomorrow, someone (God forbid, a few people) will be able to prove (that is not easy, I admit) that a few works with the conclusion Silaeva - not animals?

This is difficult even hypothetically predstavit.Esli conclusion is, neither a 100 or 200 years, it is not osporyat.I well that the power of one, but how true is noticed, the more opinions, the less confidence in the painting itself.

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Сообщение от artist

That's tomorrow or after tomorrow, someone (God forbid, a few people) will be able to prove (that is not easy, I admit) that a few works with the conclusion Silaeva - not animals?

Сообщение от spigo

This is difficult to imagine even hypothetically.

Not only is difficult to imagine. While there is a force that can not happen because everything is closed on him.
Question drugom.Proshlo 24 years since the death of the artist, and the flow of work continues unabated ... , Expertise continue to be issued. I wonder what percentage of the total number?

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Сообщение от spigo

This is difficult to imagine even hypothetically.

Agree.
Who's supposed to challenge the expertise Silaeva? Why? Who is "challenging" if it were to happen, make the audience, who this "osparivaeiem" will introduce the art market and why?

Сообщение от artist

But, such a "monogamy" - will end badly ... One person will fill up (even inadvertently) the entire market for the author.

I am certain your idea realized, but the example (beast force), in my opinion, for the development of this idea of "monogamy" artist-expert, not very suitable.

[spigo]

Сообщение от VYACHESLAV

and the flow of work continues unabated ... , Expertise continue to be issued. I wonder what percentage of the total number?

I think a 10 "no"-once "yes." (Optimistic )

[artist]

Сообщение от spigo

in 100 or 200 years, it disputes the.

And tomorrow? Incidentally, the question "Why?" - Has a lot of options for response, but not the main thing.

Сообщение от spigo

10 "no"-once "yes"

10:1 - it does not score, it's hockey.
Well, on the other hand ... once started, after all, with Zverev, how "real" (I mean objectively) to attribute his work? I understand that the topic Nenova, but I have here and the general and personal interests have ... Therefore afford.

Because the method for a particular author is very fragile - a connoisseur. Good medod, but as a part of. Here, alas, the remaining parts do not work (spektrogramy sorts and searches of cadmium, often there can be Provenance, checked at least once). There remains one component. And the sentence. But still, A sentence (without appeal).
That you like Silaev. I have nothing against Silaeva not have, but against "one Silaeva" I have (Zverev Center I do not consider).

Here, for example: I have a job. Circumstances of "gaining" I know. Well, you can find two or three witnesses to gain (although it was in 82, for example). Who would believe that it is not false witnesses? Who will monitor the logic of the process? Right ...
The work itself?
Well, probably I have seen paintings, of respect for me, Valeria Stanislavovich, but I saw them a lot and the profession can somehow judge. And then plug - 7000 RUR - $ 10 000, minimum.
If the force (or any other single expert) says "NO" is 7000 RUR forever (if at all angles not write it fufel. If you write, then - 0 RUR)))

Something is very wrong.

[spigo]

Сообщение от artist

That is, for example: I have a job. Circumstances of "gaining" I know. Well, you can find two or three witnesses to gain (although it was in 82, for example). Who would believe that it is not false witnesses? Who will monitor the logic of the process? Right ...

We assume that the provenance is.

Сообщение от artist

Something is very wrong.

Maybe the picture will show?

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Сообщение от artist

Something is very wrong.

Prices! Blown out of nothing - hence the extreme. At one time, one person was artificially initiated hysteria continues to this day, with the advent of new plaster pocherkushek, cardboard, plywood and even painted stool.
 It must be two of life with a sober wakefulness, that mess things up all eto.Ekspertizy Silaeva will carry the weight until the weight of "correct" the work will not be critically funny because nerealnosti.Dazhe with a ratio of 10:1 is already very close.