Killed in Moscow known priest Daniel Sysoev

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Сообщение от AlexanderG

V, tak nazyvaemyh, pravovyh gosudarstvah, eto vopros neodnoznachnyi.

In all countries - legal and non - are stupid laws. It's not about laws, but the people. And in a national way of life.

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Allena, it is assumed that in a legal state with crimes on the streets must fight the police, not citizens.
Remembering the case with our Spivakov, who in Paris at night beating of three robbers.
He had health problems, he broke his jaw and only one of those moments, he was with his wife, they were threatened with a knife, lack of language skills, have enabled him to avoid prosecution. And he clearly explained that it was necessary to pay the money and declare the crime to the police.
And much non-legal in countries such as Russia, where even the president of the country's bitterly notes that Russia, without exaggeration, a country of legal nihilism (c), we expect from police protection is not necessary.
You remember what happened with the priest. He made the same comment two of them sort of scum.
Think about it now, more importantly, the glass in a government or an orphan train future date your children.
Could, of course, get up, go kick his ears this blockhead. And if any of them pull a knife, so that there is a knife, screwdriver, and tknet through the heart of this brave man?
And present, God forbid that this man was your husband. A?
Yes gori blue flame, a glass, now you might think. No?

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Сообщение от Posav

And Stalin was a Satanist?. Then the words of this no one heard. You would say that to blame the Bolsheviks ...

For me so. The Bolsheviks, fascists, etc. is all the scenery, the devil can take any shape including the image of an angel, but for him can be found.

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Very sad event.
Society is sick and permissiveness beznakazannostyu.S one hand, the humane treatment of the murderers - the abolition of the death penalty, on the other hand, the total helplessness of the ban legally acquire and use firearms for self-defense oruzhiya.Vyborochnoe permission only leads to legal armament merged with the law enforcers crime.

To not mentioned here detractors U.S. - that is, may be unique in the world, (mired in the evils and insanity-moralism Europe-does not count!) Example of a truly democratic approach to individuals' ability to defend with arms themselves and their imuschestvo.I it despite the fact that there is one law for all, retribution is inevitable, until the death penalty.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Think about it now, more importantly, the glass in a government or an orphan train future date of your children.

Oh, Cyril, what bitter words. And also correct. Okay, train ... Although, seeing what is happening with my own eyes, I doubt that the two sickly young boy who barely stayed on his feet, and therefore fell down and his fists are no longer on the glass and through the air or at each other, could cause big guy sitting in the few meters from them, the real harm ... Okay, in your own words is true, it is important. But the same thing will happen if in the middle of the day will rob, kill, etc. No one will not work, no one will defend, no one even the police did not call.
 
In our country, the reluctance to notice nothing around him was normal, and only motivation for this work come up - very easy, you know. Let's not talk about the legal states say - we are living at home. Fear for loved ones - the real motive, but really very rare. There are basically other motives - "I do not care." Today hooligan no one stopped, though we could, but tomorrow it will be a killer.

Year 3 back at my home pereklinilo door lock. Summer, returning from work at 7 pm, get home, I can not. In our apartment in the corridor are 4 apartments, each of them lived only pensioners, who at that time is always at home - pretty nice that people, just that to us for help running. Whole hour, I pounded on the castle, a piece of iron, the thunder was still the same. No one in this crash did not come out, not enough - no one even the police did not call - say, a neighbor's door a suspicious noise ... Everyone on each spit. That's what scary. The state does not protect us - this is understandable, but the dregs of all understand that they face no one will be that everything is permitted.

No need to accuse me of blasphemy, but now I will say a very terrible thing. Nothing on this earth just does not happen. Maximize your father Alexander by these scum, and he would be alive. And then one of them in the same doorway, perhaps, would attack the girl when the next one would not have been ... A and B would have been - but do not come to ... What, so could not be?

We never know what my father paid the life of Alexander ... Eternal memory to him!

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"Minority Report" Leonid Radzikhovsky


Friday, 25.12.2009
S. БУНТМАН: Killed by a priest, some of savagery committed by ...

L. RADZIKHOVSKYI: First of all, killed no one priest.

S. БУНТМАН: But it's different stories, not related. They purposefully killed the priest, and, apparently, for those who did not like ...

L. RADZIKHOVSKYI: I understand. But this is also an interesting point. I - not a religious man, not Orthodox, not churching. So do not judge me confidence. But I still swim on the internet, watching. That seemed to me that our country was not a religious Orthodox country in appearance, where all the heads cross from morning till night (if you go abroad, you'll determine who is Russian, because it's the only ones who wear crosses, the foreigners, the Europeans crosses almost no wear), killing two priests with a small gap, plus a beat one, and severely beaten, so this series of crimes against priests, it seems to me, is not caused in the community, judging by the internet, there was no great excitement. I agree that in Russia's society does not generally cause any excitement, it's true. But, nevertheless, for a very religious country, namely Russia, many think it is rather strange reaction. And a priest friend, with whom I talk, I am sad to say that this shows a real depth of faith, the real depth of the influence of the church and so on. External attributes - it is very easy. Wear a cross, and so on. But to really people somehow deeply concerned church affairs, they are deeply felt, especially if you do not order the authorities ... But if tomorrow some Catholics, or Uniates somewhere in the 5000 km from Moscow in Western Ukraine take away any temple and This will be whirring religious ORT, NTV and religious religious RTR, then spread the considerable passion - so we have them, bastards ... and so on. And when the priests killed in Moscow Orthodox ... I repeat, maybe I'm wrong, maybe I really know very little religious environment, but if we talk about the environment in general and on the Internet environment ...

S. БУНТМАН: But where the enemies are killed, some external forces, but here it turns out that for a person arbitrarily not a believer, if he is not a militant atheist, whether it is even a "Hare Krishna Hare Rama" ... behold, the man who should not be bothered He has more rights than you do, do you note, for example ...

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L. RADZIKHOVSKYI: I do not know who has more rights. But I can say one thing. I think that is really a religious country, the murder of a priest in the temple, and after two or three weeks of the murder of another priest from the reasons of pure hooliganism - it would have been some public shock. But in our country's public shock can not be, because there can never be on any subject. This, I think, too, has shown this year. In general, in fact, one of the reasons why we have such a stable political and social system, is simple: the energy of the Foolovites opposed the energy of inaction. Here is the general apathy, the general pessimism, total lack of energy, such a general Painful Indifference of society - it has become commonplace, it has become proverbial. This is manifested in everything. Including this is manifested in the reaction, once again, yet the Orthodox community to the murder of Orthodox priests. If something similar happened with the priests, say, Muslim, I am sure that the reaction would be completely different. Because there is much more vibrant, much more young and active religious feelings. I'm just stating a fact. Not to mention how this is good or bad. But this fact. This is the same general degree of complete apathy and complete lack of power in society, which exists in all. By the way, yesterday, when Medvedev was a conversation with the editors, someone asked him a question, generally speaking, quite surprising for public television. Medvedev was asked: "And do not you think, Dmitry, Russia fizzled out to such an extent that can not ..."

S. БУНТМАН: Which of the three dared?

L. RADZIKHOVSKYI: I do not remember, Sergei, but generally people posmelel. That way, you say, what has changed for this year. It seems to be, and nothing has changed, but the people posmelel. Generally, censorship has become much weaker, and can afford, well, not so much criticism on television, but rather malovostorzhennye statements about the first people. Well, and some of these editors asked: "Do not you think that a country so much fizzled out, the people so much exhausted and lost drive and energy that just lost the will to live, and can not be here either modernization, nothing, but simply a quiet further extinction? "Well, of course, that this president can answer? Yes, exhausted. Yes, let's leave here and quietly put on ... well, in general, slowly crawl to the cemetery. Naturally, this president can not speak. Naturally, he said that nothing like this. But characteristically, what an example he cited. He said: "If we were exhausted, we would have lost the war."

S. БУНТМАН: What?

L. RADZIKHOVSKYI: Of course, not a war with Georgia over Ossetia. Great Patriotic War.

S. БУНТМАН: When was it?

L. RADZIKHOVSKYI: Here. Sorry, this was, first, 65 years ago. And secondly, there is a point of view, that this is what was the last straw that broke the camel. It is true, then Medvedev added that if cooked, then we could not now resurgent Russia could not build the economy and so on. But, frankly, on the theme of revival and build there ...

S. БУНТМАН: But on the other hand, I could say the country's president?

L. RADZIKHOVSKYI: I repeat once again. Of course, the president can not say, let's put on shrouds and crawl to the cemetery. The question was in a sense rhetorical. But interesting is not the answer the president, and interesting fact that at such a meeting ask such questions. This means that these thoughts soar even there, at the highest level, and soar to such an extent that they must be articulate. So they filled in the society. This is very interesting.

S. БУНТМАН: Laziness, despite the fact that such a long break in our new year, some things go, some trends are moving from year to next year. What, above all, will continue, in your opinion?

L. RADZIKHOVSKYI: Passivity. Last 20 years we have lived in the mode of drop ballast. This is the only country thus survive. It does not acquire. It resets the ballast. Rightly so. But, nevertheless, it is a definite trajectory. Drop ballast and other Central Asian republics, dropping ballast losing subsidy of the social sphere, dropping heavy ballast, uncompetitive Soviet engineering, dropping ballast great imperial science, which can not be delayed. Reset, reset and reset the ballast. But the balloon does not rise - with great difficulty, supported on the same level. It seems to me that to reverse this trend and drop the motion to move the acquisition - "finally, we were given orders to attack, pick up our crumbs, and a span" - that I did not wait for next year. Of course, this is not about territorial expansion.

S. БУНТМАН: Leonid Radzikhovsky. This was a program "Minority Report. Good luck.

http://www.echo.msk.ru/programs/personalno/643884-echo/

[Posav]

... "Drop ballast losing subsidy of the social sphere. Here's how the new ideology can draw curly thoughts.

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And also this:

to drop ballast and other Central Asian republics.