Shishkin? students? copies?

[Amateur]

Сообщение от hero

in my opinion, this multi-layered painting, painted in several layers, which gives the effect of volume.

Dear character! Your words about the still life, generally speaking, can be perceived as undue malevolence. You yourself, probably, you know, that never layering of colors in a reasonable amount will not give "the effect of volume", but would have only a "layering effect". He can give perspective and use different artist optical illusions - as in this still life - and then only partially. Full volume effect gives a stereoscopic image. Type in Google this phrase "Stereo painting" with one of the phrases: "Salvador Dali", "Oskar Fischinger", "Rene Magritte", "Roger Ferragallo" - and you'll learn how painful were artists trying to overcome the barrier of two-dimensional surface of the canvas, a breakthrough in the third dimension. And you - "layering "...: rolleyes: At any art, including a painting, has its limitations and conventions, it is necessary to know in order to correctly assess the painting.

And depending on the price of paintings on the number of wasted paint: eek: ... no comments.

[sergejnowo]

Сообщение от Amateur

The artists use various optical illusions

interesting topic worth discussing.
First, spread the work of renowned German-The Dutch painter Abraham Mignon (* 21. Juni 1640 - † 27. März 1679).

[Amateur]

Сообщение от sergejnowo

interesting topic worth discussing.

It has long wanted to do this seriously, it's all the time no. Here, of course, need a separate topic. But in fact the deliberate use of illusions, in particular, the three-dimensionality on a two-dimensional surface motion in a static (from a physical point of view) the image is akin to reveal an artist of some properties of human visual perception, which the people themselves and not guess. While, for example, Toulouse-Lautrec did not show them moving, dancing people on a fixed pattern. But here, too - must be able to see ...

[SAH]

Сообщение от Amateur

must be able to see ...

I think this is the key

[наследник]

Сообщение от sergejnowo

To start lecturing the famous German-The Dutch painter Abraham Mignon

There is a Russian art its "illusionist".
Suffice it to dial - Fyodor Tolstoy artist
. Here's how to still lifes, FP Tolstoy wrote, YM Lotman, in "Still Life in the perspective of semiotics:" ... At first glance, still-lifes of this type may seem either a tribute to the primitive naturalism, or something related to vnehudozhestvennomu illusionism, «tour de force», demonstrating the dexterous skill, and nothing more . Such a belief is mistaken: in front of us playing on the edge, requiring a sophisticated semiotic sense and evidence of the complex dynamic processes that tend to occur at the periphery of art before, as it captures the central sphere. It is an imitation of authenticity makes the notion of conditionality aware of the problems border and the measure which sought and the artist and his audience. If from this point of view, see, for example, watercolor F. Tolstoy's "flower, butterfly and flies, it is easy to see that lay before us an artist pushes the sheet of different types of conventions: butterfly and flower "as it were painted, and a drop of water in the picture, and flies crawling on it and drink this water," as if real. "Thus, the butterfly and flower paintings are a picture, the images of the image. In order for the audience caught this game, he needs a subtle sense of semiotic registers, the feeling of the picture as neveschi, but things like nerisunka ... "

[sergejnowo]

Сообщение от sergejnowo

To start lecturing the famous German-The Dutch painter Abraham Mignon

, I just wanted to show that artworks purchased for $ 300, not just a copy of this work.
In a detailed comparison came to the conclusion that without projection or even pre-print on canvas here could not have done.: Rolleyes:
Perhaps the author sees the work site and to refute my hypothesis.
The use of optical illusions, in this work does not, and 10%of the capacity of the leading masters of still life 17-18 centuries.
Gather my thoughts and in the new theme explain my vision for the remaining 90%.

[Fed]

If this works out, please, in the new topic under discussion include the cost of works to enhance cognition. Maybe this will help the participants.

[sergejnowo]

Сообщение от Amateur

Here, of course, need a separate topic

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...285#post662285