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Сообщение от Yaya

every piece of paper, not notarized - just a piece of paper. even an obligation, even though the receipt ... alas

This is not so.
Debt securities over a certain sum must tend to certify, but the contract of purchase and sale between individuals is possible and in a simple way to compile.
I can assure the notary signature, copy, translate into another language, etc., but not all transactions on purchase /sale between fzlitsami require state. registration and participation of the notary. By the way, and the contract of sale of paintings, antiques, which are in private ownership from the seller, for example, does not require the participation of a notary.

[Yaya]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

not all the transactions on purchase /sale between fzlitsami require gos. registration and participation of the notary.

Cyril Syzransky, as far as I understood the deal for buying and selling was not.

I just wanted to say that the paper is not certified, most often, it may be a problem, not help. very much hope that it will help Sandro

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Сообщение от Yaya

I just wanted to say that the paper is not certified, most often, it may be a problem, not help. very much hope that it will help Sandro

Well, to be paper, at least three certified paper, and it will remain. On the wall hang and admire?
Fraudster something he did not take the owner, his subject is something other people have given to the work, not the person that signed the paper in the gallery.

[аркан]

Suggest the administration site to introduce a new column, which will discuss the stolen work, false work, as well as dubious middlemen /preferably with pictures.

[Sandro]

Сообщение от lasso

I propose to site administration to introduce a new column, which will discuss the stolen work, false work, as well as dubious middlemen /preferably with pictures.

We proposal had already been pronounced in Rosohrankulte and 10-department MIA, only for special site. Where would any dealer could put stolen from him now when providing proof of ownership, as well as to set a list of "sucked" dealer-intermediaries (such items to have a lot of name)!

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Сообщение от vadim

Statement made and recorded in any case.
Within 3 days, be ordered to institute criminal proceedings, or on otkaze.Est option excitation faktu.Dalshe on procedural matters and all. If the person involved had disappeared, no one is looking. Just NEVER. He may get chance, only chance. The other does not happen.
Although the system has a methodology for searching people where to go almost nevozmozhno.Vot launch of this methodology is the only way. In our country, this technology has run a little man, but from personal experience. Find and install the man, detain him, quite simple.
Although the entire story reeks of nonsense.

After applying a mediator, who left us a receipt and now is the material responsible person, the thief has learned that 15 minutes ....... so I think, comrades, can we trust our bodies.
A nonsense, thank you to such nonsense ..... although I would not wish .....

[Allena]

Сообщение от lasso

I propose to site administration to introduce a new column, which will discuss the stolen work, false work, as well as dubious middlemen /preferably with pictures.

From time to time this proposal emerges, and already many copies here on the forum, broken on this account! The author of one of the suggestions I was, but there is really a lot of difficulties and pitfalls.

[Sandro]

Allena, in that we had in mind an anonymous site to prevent its dealers, gallery owners, dealers in the market - with whom it is better not work! by name!

[Allena]

Сообщение от Sandro

anonymous site to prevent its dealers, gallery owners, dealers in the market - with whom it is better not work! by name!

That's right, the right thing, but where is the guarantee that someone is anonymous, wanting to harm the reputation of good colleagues, do not hang on this web site history, which is very plausible zapletet real facts and a lie? There will be: whether he stole the coat, whether he had stolen, but the sediment has remained ... In this case require extreme delicacy, if someone accuses someone of cheating, it is not out of action for defamation. And again: spoons were found, and the precipitate was left ... In addition, all perfectly aware that dishonest people, when necessary, to hide behind the law or turn it into his side is even able, much better than honest ...
And in the Interior Ministry, such Internet system is unlikely to be created - for the same reasons. Officially called the man a thief or a fraudster is possible only after the verdict. In short, I can not imagine how it must be organized so that the information was absolutely accurate and not to involve the creators of such an anonymous site in judicial proceedings. I see this is still only at the level of personal or forumskogo communication, not more. At the forum you can talk about unscrupulous dealers, even with the names, but also to calculate the author of the plot or the details of the fraudster's story does not make much effort. That's such a difficult problem. Can only personal contact colleagues who know each other and will not be rechecked.

[Тютчев]

Сообщение от lasso

propose administration of the site to introduce a new column, which will discuss the stolen work, false work, as well as dubious middlemen /preferably with pictures /.

This section is needed (I already wrote about it). And it is a permanent section, rather than topic. It is necessary for professional work.

[Allena]

Tjutchev, how to organize guarantee the reliability of information?