So does the modern artist to be able to draw? - Страница 3 - Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

Кирилл Сызранский · 21.07.2009, 18:15

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ensemble "Moscow Virtuosi" under Spivakov after some touring elected as their continued residence in Spain and the Soviet Union decided not to return.

Just musicians decided to seek work in the west. The orchestra ceased to exist, and learned of King Juan Carlos and questioned the details of Vladimir Teodorovich. Ibid, at dinner, it was decided to save the orchestra and provide an opportunity to work in Spain. Spivakov was surprised and asked, whether such and received the answer: "Mot le Roi". Somehow ... : D

Vladimir · 21.07.2009, 18:39

Yes, a beautiful story. Just the tale of the miraculous salvation. With dangerous heeling of the ship. Let me remind you that the "Moscow Virtuosi" thundered, this band was the pride of the country. However, none of my business, everyone chooses. Just shared their memories. In ninety I was 15 years old. Maybe so think of everything so acutely.

Кирилл Сызранский · 21.07.2009, 18:42

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In ninety I was 15 years old.

And I am 32 and this story I heard from Spivakov.

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Yes, a beautiful story. Just the tale of the miraculous salvation.

While stories of his eyes became wet, shall we say ...

Buscador · 21.07.2009, 19:15

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Сообщение от Oleg Nazarov

academic drawing .... if a person does not дибил .... 4-5 years of work on a fully accessible .... I'm talking about that is not the point ...

Damn! How much do we have morons !...: rolleyes:

Семен Семенович · 21.07.2009, 19:48

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This requires clear criteria .. but they do not

Granted, there are clear criteria for the drawing.

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a form of ownership, the ability to create a flat canvas sheet of three-dimensional image

Here, here ... and much more ...

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is not considered in those institutions ability risovat.A so creative thinking is more ...

The ability to draw is, but do not be put at the forefront. On the "creative thinking" would not want to discuss here (in this topic), since it zavedet this issue and very quickly, in a lengthy discourse. The ability or the ability to draw can be seen immediately, but about creativity .... On it was discussed almost all topics in our forum.

Buscador · 21.07.2009, 19:53

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The ability to draw is, but do not be put at the forefront.

That's it. Because the paint should be taught (and if he did not know how), and "creativity" is something abstract, for it can hide all the "forms", and the contents of each will seek his own. And convenient and ... unclear

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Actually we are talking about the basics of craft (a lot of respect on the word and what it stands for), and foundations need to know to perfection (horror as trite, but on the topic, and outstanding minds have never feared platitudes! (C))

How right! That is - know the basics skills to perfection. Drawing, of course, refers to the basic skills (together with possession of color, composition ...)

Admin · 21.07.2009, 21:00

Good theme and, most importantly, a sore. I have to sort their professions over the past twenty years had a fairly tight work no less than a hundred artists. They finished those or other artistic institutions, most universities. So. Of all these hundreds of artists to paint hands could five people, not more. Osyuda question. Who produce our art colleges? The second question to ask I will not, even though he begs.

"Kitty, I have long wanted to ask you as an artist, an artist: you know how to draw?" (c) I. Ilf, Petrov

DSF · 21.07.2009, 21:45

Anyone who deals with the modern "relevant directions" is not obliged to draw, and, accordingly, should not. Not for him the money is paid. The main thing - the ingenuity and business qualities. If an artist wants to remain within the traditional painting (ie, colors on the surface), it would be better able to draw. Knowledge of crafts and technology must be an artist, as in the work should not be "anti-material".
Cezanne: "Having the temperament of the painter and the ideal of art, that is, the concept of nature, we still own the means of expression to be understood by the general public and take the appropriate place in the history of art." "The soul does not write, write the body, and when the body is written well, hell, the soul, if it is, will glow and appear throughout.
But, since now for the ability to draw money does not pay, and pay for the ability to properly "promote" their products, whatever it was, pasta or paintings, paint is not required. One can well do without it. So many people simply do not want to strain. No sense.

Buscador · 21.07.2009, 22:15

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Anyone who deals with the modern "current trends" is not obliged to draw, and, accordingly, should not. Not for him the money is paid. The main thing - the ingenuity and business qualities.

So, probably, they have to invent another word for the transfer of what they do, and not hudzhnik. Aktualschik, philosopher-installer ...

Veronic · 21.07.2009, 22:18

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So, probably, they have to invent another word for the transfer of what they do, and not hudzhnik. Aktualschik, philosopher-installer ...

I myself just wanted to write about this, but you are ahead. I think that this idea is already flying in the air, probably will soon materialize.
And then no one will ask "So does the modern artist to be able to draw?"

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