Prices for contemporary art

[Ignat]

Interesting article.
I think the separation is not one, two of them. There is "the art of excellence", is "the art concepts. But Koons - it is neither one nor the other. This is the art of surplus value in its pure form.

I think is very simple and vulgar. From a commercial point of view, urinal initially seemed to be less advantageous than that of any picture. Difficult customer vparit per million. But it is very useful to artists, pissuaristam (Nitsche do not need denyuh sea, plus a cool postebatstso) and especially the art-dealers (since eliminated any side "nonsense" like the need for an artistic taste and flair, plus the opening shown in the article the broadest possible to steer the market , financially attractive manner). In some ways turns the market experiences an art dealer, and what could be nicer than receiving money for their impressions?

And they share the case "raised". Consumers were led to believe that this - the high art (in the sense of high investment grade rating). And some customers that only need. I want to say that there was unlikely that someone had illusions. And "the artists, both sellers and buyers from the outset to understand the essence of a purely commercial manufactured goods.
It turned out, as there has already been said, the pyramid. And the pyramid depends on the reality, even much less than the stock market or real estate. And thus, unlikely to fall.

And the last stage is that the concepts also dismiss as unnecessary. Black Square was - albeit, in the opinion of some, strange - a consequence of the metaphysical search for the artist. And even the urinal, I guess.
The egg symbolizes that Koons only one thing: that surplus value can create itself. Balm to the souls of the bourgeoisie, sorry for the involuntary Marxism.

This is actually a very beautiful shnyaga. But admiration is not a single individual Koons, and the whole system as a whole. It turns like a giant marketing department, which shows that the marketing of goods do not need, you need only minimal character to make money out of nothing. Transcendental marketing. The metaphysical character of the global financial system. Even the stock market is resting, there is even the expectations of trends in the real sector of trade, but here - just nothing.
In this sense the market "modern art" - in itself a splendid artistic phenomenon.

And I would have to place these "artists" did one simple thing. At the auction would have sold the void, so the 10 million. I do not mean blank canvas or a book, but simply - nothing. The buyer would have received all the necessary docks, bought the emptiness of such a brand "artist." Then you can resell these docks, if the price rise. And you can set at home, with the corresponding plate and pedestal, of course. Otherwise, guests will be hard to see this wonderful work of art.
Interestingly, none of them did not do? I just do not know.

Сообщение от K-Maler

On this subject, there are other opinions. Some authors think that is deliberate campaign to oust the traditional arts, which are always closely linked to the specific country and a very specific preferences of its inhabitants, that is unprofitable for the global market.

This way, too. The only thing I would not say that the action "deliberate", it turns out conspiracy.
Or so. The notion of "deliberation" implies that some people are doing something that could not do if they have good will. So, could not. The system will still make.
Another issue that some people are probably well aware what they do.

[Сергеич]

At the auction would have sold the void, so the 10 million. I do not mean blank canvas or a book, but simply - nothing. The buyer would have received all the necessary docks, bought the emptiness of such a brand "artist".

Still, "a piece of art" must be recognizable. Then who do not have problems with money and who are willing to actively demonstrate. For these purposes, and buy a "work of art." Maybach, too, not by running qualities are buying, but to highlight the status and opportunities, even if I myself. Here Koons and Hirst just incidentally. Void in this context does not fit, you need to be immediately obvious, but not read the papers. While writing the thought came to stir up business. Buy a stuffed in a pet shop, tuck them in aquariums with formalin and sell at bargain prices.

[SergeiSK]

Сообщение от Sergeyitch

stuff them in aquariums with formalin

Well then whisked plagiarism Better health in spirit

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Сообщение от SergeiSK

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tuck them in aquariums with formalin
Well here plagiarism slips in best medical alcohol

Valves do in crowded places. One day all will be repaid and the profit will go. That's the scheme and works!

[Yaya]

Сообщение от Sergeyitch

The void in this context does not fit, you need to be immediately obvious, and not read the papers.

Sergeyitch, the "emptiness" must tally with a price tag. Emptiness, which is not hung a tag, no one needs

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Still, the magic in our forum.
See themselves. Yesterday party requests the Board.

Сообщение от Ignat

Dear forum members, I will be grateful for the advice.

And today is the Council itself!

Сообщение от Ignat

I would place these "artists" did one simple thing. At the auction would have sold the void, so the 10 million.

Here it is, the great power of art!
Although, that really there.

Сообщение от Ignat

I think everything is very simple and vulgar.

 

Сообщение от Ignat

This is actually very beautiful shnyaga.

But nevertheless stipulates.

Сообщение от Ignat

I just do not know.

Not like, but remember Ivan Andreevich.
The trouble, since the furnace will cobbler pies,
A stitch boots pieman,
And it will not go smoothly.
Yes, and noticing a hundred times,
As for who likes to tackle alien craft.
He zavsegda other stubborn and quarrelsome:
It is better to destroy it all,
And glad quick
Become the laughingstock of the world,
What is a fair and knowledgeable people
Ask il listen to council. (c)

: D: D: D

[Pavel]

In my all in the art world is harmonious and logical. Nobody will pay money just so. We must understand, this is interesting but difficult to just bandy. Why rostut prices? Why fall on others. At the time of the Impressionists with 60 po03-around was not a time of the Impressionists, and academics. Only Durand Ruel believed in them. It was a struggle and it is necessary to know. The struggle between the liberal arts and memorized methods of academic, brown color and harmony.

[EkaterinaH]

Article not superficial, and generalizing and systematizing ...
Very interesting. Thanks

[sur]

Me as a man recently began to observe artrynku, begins to seem that there is just everything is much simpler and more understandable than say the stock market. The work of art, worth as much as for his zaplatili.Esli yesterday I bought some of the work (aside form and content) for 1, and now sold for 100, it means that yesterday it was worth 1, and today is 100.Tut as be spoken, good person.
  Suppose I bought shares of some companies, but also high-tech? So poluchaetsya I bought? Believe me, nothing. I'm talking about it and I do not know anything except what I want on it rasskazat.Prosto, a man referred to as an analyst or an expert, said: "We must buy." And everyone starts to buy and they, therefore, begin rasti.A that I result obtained bought? Air.
  It's all honest, I bought what I liked, something that I can hold in your hand or on a wall povesit.A prices exactly how many people are willing to pay for this or that piece of art.
  To return to the article, it still speak of creators who can not risovat.U I have a question, and if any of the artists call them? And how do you then the musicians who were unable to play? "Here is my point of view coincides with that if my memory serves me Picasso, who believed that the artist must first master in perfection risunkom.A then free to do as God will put him on the soul.

[Seriy]

sur, the difference in the nature of investment in that stock Coca-Cola you can sell at any time of day at the market rate. For now you will have to wait for the buyer, and can not wait. Not at what price.