How to prepare for the examination?

[Pasha]

MDA ... jokers but here Humor is good, but in moderation. but fortunately, I myself am not so in the area in which I am an expert, just understand that ordinary people do not have to know much, if it's not a question of their hobby or commerce.
In the field of art I do not dock and told about it immediately. but my caution is more life experience and what I want to take ownership of their property before they'll talk about it openly. All too often heard about swindlers in the arts. I do not mean or anyone! Do not take it personally.

[Allena]

Cyril Syzransky, and this is right!

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Сообщение от Pasha

all too often heard about swindlers in the arts

Here you are just in the very lair of their hit ...
Beware!

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Сообщение от Pasha

DAM ... jokers but here

What you laugh, then?

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Pasha

to obtain ownership of their property

  Cyril Syzransky, (Constantine), you already gave a link http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=23505 Read carefully, this theme a few days already discussed.

[Allena]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

The answers largely depend on the manner of asking questions on the issues themselves, the interest of the master

I can not understand, Cyril, that you alerted? When you come to a specialist (doctor, for example, or a lawyer), you do not you ask your question by using all the special terminology? You are all in your own words explain, but if the same lawyer tomorrow will come to your bank for a loan, then you what, getting him to express himself in his bird language? How could a man, and formulated.

Olga, thank you!

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Сообщение от Allena

You all in your own words explain,

Yes, but if I am that lawyer will be something not to negotiate, explain that all lawyers crooks, the conversation, I'm afraid not work.

Сообщение от Pasha

all too often heard about swindlers in the arts

Сообщение от Allena

in your bank for a loan

What is "your bank". Neto I have no bank, pax! Pah-pah-pah ...

[Евгений]

Allena, Dear Alena not need all that simplify, I repeat once again, this issue is complicated.

Сообщение от LCR

But let us imagine a few specific situations:

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a) You have decided to put the thing you purchased on any foreign auction. Relatively roguish McDougall'ov not answer, though perhaps some of the incidents in the recent past them something and have taught, but the auction houses who value their reputation will certainly ask you to submit any proof of your ownership of this thing;

b) the artist who sold you your job, has died. Indelicate heirs may contest your rights to work, and you will need to somehow prove that it was not stolen from the shop - if, contrary to expectation, the artist that did not live in Russia, you absolutely need documentary evidence of your property (as I have already written , a text written on a photocopy of identity card is sufficient).

In my opinion, have these two examples is enough to understand that it is better to have a paper confirming VYashi right thing, than not have it, the more that get it should be relatively easy, and keep and even more so - to eat, she does not ask and takes up little space

I might add that recently a lot of people who bought in time for Roginsky work, but without documentary podtverdzhdeniya ownership of them, treated me to send them a confirmation that I certainly did.

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Or another example

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

You remember the story of Mr. Longvinenko and Titian.
But it was all different.
He asked the court to demand recognition as a bona fide purchaser.

Or even prmer

Сообщение от LCR

I know from personal experience how a nightmare can turn into something that a person has no evidence of ownership of a work of art.

I do not particularly like talking about it, but just now I have to collect worldwide evidence of people who know that the cause of my acquaintance with my husband was buying me two of his works - was exhibited in the pavilion Culture VDNKh and weight artists simply see how I chose the picture, congratulated me on my choice, and Misha - with the sale. Of course, I did not requested and not received any written confirmation. And it happened in the USSR, where, if I well understood, the law allows you to avoid documentary evidence - that I mean that it is hard to predict what might be needed in the future, and that - no.

I gathered evidence and I have people who know that my husband gave me quite a lot of pictures.
Finally, I collect evidence that after the death Roginsky I bought or bartered for a significant number of his works.
If I am not able to collect all these papers, Mishina work I can simply select.

How much my life would be easier and safer, if I had any documents!

[Allena]

Сообщение от Eugene

Allena, Alena Dear do not have all so simplify.

Dear Eugene! Subject, of course, complicated. Actually, I do not even understand to simplify what you got me "blame"! And it is not important. But I am not talking about the topic in general, but about how I once again jarred the ratio of people who know the new man who comes here with a specific contemporary issue.

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Allena

the new man

The new man asked a question

Сообщение от Pasha

There is a picture, but without any documentation

Сообщение от Pasha

I need a document confirming me as the owner.

and Constantine gave the correct link where this topic is discussed in detail, and everything else is a simplified approach to this subject.

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Сообщение от Allena

I once again warped attitude knowledgeable people to a new person who comes here with a specific contemporary issue.

Normally all answered, go to the start of the topic.
Check the message number number 4, 5, 6.
And if you "warped" is my attitude to the new man, then I really do not know then ...