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Старый 20.11.2013, 22:45 Язык оригинала: Русский       #21
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Falk and Konchalovsky of the auction catalog someone bought very expensive and early.
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Falk bought for 10000000dollarov!
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Falk bought for 10000000dollarov!!!

Is that a joke?
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Старый 21.11.2013, 02:39 Язык оригинала: Русский       #24
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Старый 21.11.2013, 05:31 Язык оригинала: Русский       #25
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Based on the media sources work Konchalovsky bought in advance for 4.7 million pounds.
__________________________________________________ ______________

By Feshin.

I do not want to argue about anything . Yes , the difference is noticeable in some detail between color photo from Sotheby's and black-and- white photo studio .

But, in order that the comparison was a real and fair, it would be necessary :

 - Have a quality picture from the easel , the same size as the color .
 - When photographing use more or less the same light sources .
- And most importantly, compared the work to be finished.

After all, the photos in the studio Feshina memorializing it still working on the portrait . And maybe this portrait at the time of photographing ready only by 85-90 %and that's why see the difference ? Because , after all, not a photo exhibition, and the easel .

Others , too important circumstance .

Picture before you get to the Sotheby's, was bought in the gallery Addison Rowe Fine Art, which is located in Santa Fe , New Mexico . In this city there are many galleries that exhibited and offered to work Feshina , very good understanding in the prices of his paintings. This is the city of Santa Fe - Taos Fechin lived and worked from 1927 to 1934.
Many paintings were in Feshina rukazh local shopkeepers and restaurants as wife , not having enough savings distributed pattern for debt.

Third . Name Feshina to Taos - a legend . Therefore , the value of the transaction was not a three-kopeck .
Anyone who bought this portrait for a lot of money, probably had confidence that the picture will be taken at Sotheby's auction in London .

Fourth. On this portrait told the word Galina Tuluzakova , one of the biggest scholars of Nikolai Fechin , an honorary member of the Russian Academy of Arts.

The result will show the truth of trading .

Once again add , I do not want to argue about anything .



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Jane Doe,
It is already clear that you work for Sotheby's ... Proshlyapili in the most serious catalog of bullshit and trying to justify ... I am sorry ...

Your ridiculous arguments about the unfinished things ...
About provenance - also not well-founded . I know a number of reputable galleries and collectors who have bought myself a good collection of these , and now , in a crisis, and there was the creeping bullshit . Also , I know the old with serious collectors items in the collection , with the documentary provenance for them , and so that the last few years , selling copies of the ( fake ) your things with a reinforced concrete provenance , respectively ... By the way you have recently passed one such thing and was returned ... Is not it?
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Старый 21.11.2013, 18:50 Язык оригинала: Русский       #27
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It is already clear that you work for Sotheby's ...
After you have done a deep investigation of my work and the conclusions drawn on the basis of vashyh own fantasies , I had no choice but to admit to you that I - Joanna Vickery . <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
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and now , in a crisis, and there was the creeping shit
Now the crisis ? What crisis ? Do you think this is a crisis , when the early Konchalovsky buy for $ 7.5 million and Falk for $ 10 million (out of yesterday's posts Barvikha).
In June, the Bonham's posted $ 12.7 million for the Roerich. Crisis?
For the same Feshina on MakDugalls not so long ago gave 11 million dollars.
And for Goncharov took away 10 million and for Mashkov in June Christie issued 7 million
A week ago Christie has collected a record amount for one bid - about $ 700 million , where only griptih Bacon laid out $ 142 million .
This list goes on and on .

The crisis in unsuccessful jubilant galleries , where there is no room on the walls of the works of artists 4-5 tier that are not wanted , and among provincial art dealers, misfits , in which the crisis is not only in the arts.

Now we continue on FESHIN. Just for the sake of justice.
Dear Sandro. Your statement about a fake picture of Fechin , in the upcoming auction in London, is not substantiated by anything other than a primitive culture by comparing digital photographs Sotheby c blurred by the increased computerization of tiny photographs paintings, work in progress Nicolai Fechin . More of you have nothing . About the picture itself and the degree of skill you have eloquently expressed in the second message :

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, about the texture of the brush strokes and I generally keep quiet !
If you could imagine a situation in which to resolve the dispute between you and me would be an independent judge , you lose. No sane person does not subscribe to the verdict , assessing the differences in the details of this and the finished portrait on the tiny fuzzy miniature with an unfinished work in the studio.
Moreover, that picture is still visited the gallery of Santa Fe. Having been in the hands of the current owner , visited the hands of experts Sotheby's .
In the end, she saw Galina Tuluzakova with which you can not compete with knowledge and experience in the field of Feshina with all your desire . And all of them competently walked counterfeiters . Except you . You do not " proshlyapili ." You disclose all of the above -mentioned slip institutions. You can only say "Bravo !"

If you take the counterfeits Feshina that pop up at different times in different places, they can not hold a candle to fit this portrait. They even , counterfeiters do not offer at Sotheby's or Christie's because they can not come close to the skill Feshina . I will give a few quick photos found from the Internet, and you 'll see the poor quality of fraud.

Now the latest .
 
This whole situation reminds me of a sly , which is interested in acquiring the object's side , begins smear campaign aimed at the targeted reduction of interest in the subject , which either leads to a decrease in the selling price or the item is not sold at auction , which allows an interested party to buy on the subject of lowering prices or After Sale. And most of all those involved or dealers or gallery owners , buying a subject for resale or directly to customer .
Do you recommend to write a letter to Sotheby's and show our answer. After all, you did not write it? Maybe you know that you should not waste time ?

Once again , Sandro. I am a supporter of the truth and the facts. The method you used to compare two images , can not be perceived as an objective .
And to ensure that your version had weight, need proof . Prove that it does not work Feshina . Not compared to mikrokrohoy , but from the point of view of art history.
If you and many have noticed minimal differences in the details, it is probably the one who forged the portrait from a photograph , too, have seen these details. And could be easily removed. But counterfeiters would not forge an unfinished work with a tiny fuzzy black /white mini- pictures.

And it would be great to be invited to the debate itself Galina Tuzlakovu .


All four forgery in the miniatures were copied with color reproductions . The difference in technique and skill between fakes and originals see, do not you?
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And it would be great to invite duskussii itself Galina Tuzlakovu .
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In your place I would call a Kazan State Museum of Fine Arts of the Republic of Tatarstan and asked for coordinates Galina Petrovna Tuluzakova - she's deputy director for scientific work and, in my opinion, now is the best specialist N. FESHIN in Russia .
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Старый 21.11.2013, 23:34 Язык оригинала: Русский       #29
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And it would be great to invite Galina Tuzlakovu duskussii itself .
And what sense Galina Tuzlakovoy this work Feshina not publicly confirm ? She's in Santa Fe happens. Grants from the Soros Foundation and the U.S. Congress receives and publishes books in the U.S. ... Maybe with gallery owners Addison Rowe Fine Art and familiar pattern already seen this , and even with Forrest Fenn familiar . <! - ~ 1 ~ ->




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Proceeding from media sources work Konchalovsky bought in advance for 4.7 million pounds.
__________________________________________________ ______________

By Feshin.

I do not want to argue about anything . Yes , the difference is noticeable in some detail between color photo from Sotheby's and black-and- white photo studio .

But, in order that the comparison was a real and fair, it would be necessary :

 - Have a quality picture from the easel , the same size as the color .
 - When photographing use more or less the same light sources .
- And most importantly, compared the work to be finished.

After all, the photos in the studio Feshina memorializing it still working on the portrait . And maybe this portrait at the time of photographing ready only by 85-90 %and that's why see the difference ? Because , after all, not a photo exhibition, and the easel .

Others , too important circumstance .

Picture before you get to the Sotheby's, was bought in the gallery Addison Rowe Fine Art, which is located in Santa Fe , New Mexico . In this city there are many galleries that exhibited and offered to work Feshina , very good understanding in the prices of his paintings. This is the city of Santa Fe - Taos Fechin lived and worked from 1927 to 1934.
Many paintings were in Feshina rukazh local shopkeepers and restaurants as wife , not having enough savings distributed pattern for debt.

Third . Name Feshina to Taos - a legend . Therefore , the value of the transaction was not a three-kopeck .
Anyone who bought this portrait for a lot of money, probably had confidence that the picture will be taken at Sotheby's auction in London .

Fourth. On this portrait told the word Galina Tuluzakova , one of the biggest scholars of Nikolai Fechin , an honorary member of the Russian Academy of Arts.

The result will show the truth of trading .

Once again add , I do not want to argue about anything .
Result trades no relation to the authenticity has not. Fake Mashkov , Kustodiev - bought expensive. Scholar is not always a good judge . Example Mr. Pospelov, results of operations , see the exhibition catalog of the Yaroslavl Museum . Incidentally , too, with regalia . A different work , long known trick . A few years ago sold Kuindzhi because the old wood picture differed from the number of counterfeits not only branches , but even sorry trees . Many saw it was fun. And for estimated profit from the sale of counterfeit Feshina can ride anywhere .

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After you have done my deepest investigation work and the conclusions reached on the basis of vashyh own fantasies , I had no choice but to confess to you that I - Joanna Vickery . <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Now the crisis ? What crisis? In your opinion, it is a crisis when early Konchalovsky buy for $ 7.5 million dollars and Falk for $ 10 million ( from yesterday's message Barvikha).
In June, the Bonham's posted $ 12.7 million for the Roerich. Crisis?
For the same Feshina on MakDugalls not so long ago gave $ 11 million .
And for Goncharov forked out 10 million for Mashkov And in June Christie issued 7 million
A week ago Christie has collected a record amount for some trades - about $ 700 million , where only griptih Bacon posted $ 142 million .
This list could go on for a long time .

Exults in crisis unsuccessful galleries , where the walls have no place on the works of artists 4-5 tier that nobody wants , and of provincial art dealers, losers in which the crisis is not only in the art .

Now continue on the Feshin. Just for the sake of justice.
Dear Sandro. Your statement about a fake picture Feshina , the upcoming auction in London, is not justified by anything except as a primitive culture by comparing digital photography Sotheby c blurred by increased computerization tiny photos picture work in progress Nicolai Fechin . More of you have nothing . About the picture itself and the degree of skill you already eloquently expressed in the second message :


Now imagine if the situation that for the resolution of the dispute between you and I would be an independent judge , you lose. No sane person does not subscribe to the verdict , appreciating differences details on this finished portrait and tiny miniature vague with unfinished work in the studio.
Moreover, that picture still visited Santa Fe gallery . Visited in the hands of the current owner , in the hands of experts visited Sotheby's .
In the end, it saw Galina Tuluzakova with which you can not compete with knowledge and experience in the field Feshina with all your desire . And all of them correctly bypassed counterfeiters . Except you . You do not " proshlyapili ." You miss all disclosed above mentioned institutions. You can only say "Bravo !"

If you take the counterfeits Feshina that pop up at different times in different places, they can not hold a candle to fit this portrait. They even counterfeiters do not offer at Sotheby's or Christie's because they can not come close to the skill Feshina . I quickly found here are a few photos from the internet and you will see the poor quality of fraud.

Now the latest .
 
This whole situation reminds me of the sly , which is interested in purchasing a work of art party starts a smear campaign aimed at lowering targeted interest in the subject , which leads either to a decrease in the sales price or item not sold at auction , which allows the interested party to buy subject to the price decrease or After Sale. And most of all those involved or dealers or gallery owners , buying thing for resale or directly to customer .
Recommend you write a letter to Sotheby's and show the answer on the forum . After all, you did not write it? Maybe you know that you should not waste this time?

Once again , Sandro. I am a supporter of the truth and facts. The method that you used to compare two images , can not be perceived as an objective .
And to ensure that your version had weight, need proof. Prove that it does not work Feshina . Not compared to mikrokrohoy , but from the standpoint of art .
If you notice many minimum difference in detail, it is probably the one who forged this portrait from a photograph , too, saw these details. And could be easily remedied. But counterfeiters would not forge an unfinished work with a tiny fuzzy black /white mini- pictures.

And it would be great to invite to the debate itself Galina Tuzlakovu .


All four of forgery in the miniatures were copied with color reproductions . The difference in technique and skill between fakes and originals visible , is not it ?
To argue, as the work is finished or not, you need to understand at least a little work as artists like Feshin how to construct space and gradually fills the entire canvas . Do not see what people have got nothing alike. Selling work on the floor can not quite understand . What do you think Feshin 70 times face rewrote as Valentin Serov . Look how stupid smears position so for similarity . You neither see that the figure is not inscribed in the canvas and background . Everything is falling apart .
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