Instead of antiquity b /a product of high life?

[Toinen]

Сообщение от Pecheneg

is obtained under the grill rack prekrastnaya ..

Mortar better because
it can be used for its intended purpose, it can be beat (water, for example!)

[gran]

Сообщение от wasya; 2106311"

What other rare items possess such a property tricky ?
Is it possible to use such items for the investment?

Those who are still on * surface *
For example, the Soviet periud porcelain figurines .
And the price is not much of an average of 100-500 rubles. at flea markets.
It is still possible to find what is not aesthetically pleasing , and what the dynamics of growth of prices for these items is palpable ...
The chip zaklyuchaetsya what ....
Do you offer from the more than adequate price. ( Who does not deceived not NEDO )
You can certainly * like * the remnants buy wholesale in Antique Salon . Then will have to wait one hundred years as a result invistitsii .
Of course when it comes to low-cost acquisitions ...
I think so ...
Here for example a small portion of products bought me on my way to work at a flea market over the past six months.
From SW ..

[wasya]

Typically, over time, loses its commodity price. Even worse , when he goes out of fashion , then losing value more quickly. And then the task to save money on future hyperinflation.
This product takes on the value of an antique if it is unique. But then it is impossible to collect a bunch of similar items . Here is a good example : the new gold coins and untsovye same coin untsovye hundred years ago are the same. Coins were issued many, so there is no uniqueness.
That intrigued me, and if I do not want to depend on the uniqueness of the goods, what goods can be bought in batches , so that in time he became cheaper ? As an option, not wanted to consider new products, which are still valued for its durability , not unique , antique .

[Тихая Сапа]

Good wine, brandy and certainly over time, do not lose their skills and do not decrease in value. Do you want to sell , you want to drink for other purposes.

Cult aero , auto , moto technique can be bought, he borrowed a year - three then sell without loss in value (if after this period did not happen anything catastrophic .)

Fumed oak - excellent , but somewhat long investment. Saw a suitable tree in the forest (cost - fuel for the saws and transportation ), drown in a swamp and a few tens of years, it becomes much more expensive.

What is bought cheaply and with time only grows in value ? Sad ? Wood? You can land a grove kakih-nibud valuable wood ( which will remain in demand even when the market development of plastics ).

[gran]

Here is a good example : the new gold coins and untsovye same coin untsovye hundred years ago are the same. Coins were issued many, so there is no uniqueness .

Сообщение от wasya; 2108411 '

That's me and are interested in , if I do not want to depend on the uniqueness of the goods, what goods can be bought in batches , so that in time he became cheaper ? As an option, not wanted to consider new products, which are still valued for its durability , not unique , antique .

Here you and answered your own question ...
untsovye coin

[sergejnowo]

Сообщение от wasya; 2108411 '

That's me and are interested in, if I do not want to depend on the uniqueness of the goods, what goods can be bought in batches, so that in time he became cheaper?

"Eventually became cheaper is not" too slippery concept. Probably not only became cheaper, but also "walking" pace with inflation.

Under the influence of events in the market during the last burst of the crisis, we can confidently say that without the influence of "uniqueness" will be difficult. Even now, the lion's share of capital available in the market, working in a "money-money." It is a fact, more is not better that the scheme "the money-commodity-money" goes into the shadows. This means that if world politics /psychology /life strategy will not change radically, the weight of the term "goods" will continue to decline.
This is logical, the fact that yesterday was made with difficulty, is now "one left", and tomorrow will make robots only for raw materials and energy.
I think the "uniqueness" can not leave, the production will be nominally cheaper.
The other side of the coin, the virtuality of the economy, sometimes complete detachment from reality.
For example, Facebook today released to the stock exchange. Anticipated capitalization of more than 19.000.000.000 $, more than the capitalization of the Mercedes!
And what these brothers have created a material? That they can provide tangible in return for this amount? Will Facebook to whom that is needed if it is flood their pages advertising?

But over the head ($ 19.000.000.000) can be half the art museums in Europe to buy in bulk.
And all this without regard to fashion and political influences, wars, and "fast" life
on Mars.
This is me to the fact that "under the umbrella" of the above processes to keep the idea of ​​investing in acquired consumer goods - a utopia.
Utopia is not because it makes no sense, but because it is not proschityvaemo.
But the "uniqueness" to calculate the possible, though not without risks.

[wasya]

Today, I would not invest in gold. Yes, gold was money . But now the price of gold on the stock exchange is three times greater than its cost !
About untsovye gold coins was an example to show that for a hundred years of numismatic coins do not add value. Although it was expected that the old coins should be worth much more expensive than new coins .

[Мария Торонтовна]

It amazes me how quickly the land becomes more expensive in Skolkovo.
 
And the larger the area, so it is more expensive.
Almost like with antique paintings <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

In 2007, a hectare of land bought for $ 1 million,

in 2009, resold for $ 5 million,

but today it was put up for sale for $ 20 million.

[fross]

Сообщение от sergejnowo

For example, Facebook today released to the stock exchange. Anticipated capitalization of more than 19.000.000.000 $, more than the capitalization of the Mercedes!
And what these brothers have created a material? That they can provide tangible in return for this amount? Will Facebook to whom that is needed if it is flood their pages advertising?

This is only the cost of the shares sold in the IPO, and the entire score of just over 108 million mi. This is when something official quarterly gross profit of 250 million, a hundred years payback comes as a minimum, and all investors, where psychiatrists? <! - ~ 1 ~ ->))
In essence, any exchange of anything was on the money - it's just the belief that it is worth as much, or conversely, that the money is worth so much. <! - ~ 1 ~ -> The higher the collective belief, the higher the price. Material side of the calculation is not taken, or rather it always adds an intangible belief in its existence.
I've not only in the monstrous absurdity of the evaluation feys do not believe, but for the cost of Mercedes no longer see the quality, some memories. But the collective belief in the quality of Faith has brought some the other day a few billion of profit to its shareholders, and a collective belief in some extant now only in memories brings quality Mercedes is still the company's sales are impossible for a sober comparison of the quality of their cars with rivals.

[sergejnowo]

Сообщение от fross

collective belief

the way it is, art as an investment in this regard is no exception <! - ~ 1 ~ ->