"Classical Painting Collection" auction at the gallery "Euro-Art"

[Altim]

In Kiev the existing auction is a common problem in connection with which it is assumed that auctions - a bowl for draining the slag , which failed to sell earlier. Not 100%, but in a fair degree.
Calculation of the rich idiots ( or even better - dur ) , because this is the type buyer - the dream of most poor local " art dealers " - is misguided strategy.
If so , and start something new , then the level above the existing one.

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Сообщение от Altim; 2098791"

You'll laugh, but it's not Ayu- Dag.

More and Ayu- Dag ... Well - just Veschilov TADA !

Сообщение от uriart; 2098811"

OlegTsi, so the two walked around Kiev

for a walk ... and picked up " Semiradsky " with " Petrovicheva " ... A similar - similar to .

Сообщение от uriart; 2098861"

Actually I would say that the very organizers of this auction, a selection of candid fakes his own death warrant signed .

Well, at -the- by ... And that something was wrong : the " Shapiro " yes " Shapiro " ...

antikuz, , let the question : what , in many works of Kiev museums or Baikov Bredovsa ? No? So I did not find any ... And on the basis of , which of these standards in which case the examination was carried out ? If you can - please explain . I would greatly appreciate it.

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Сообщение от Toinen

carefully scanned the directory is now trying to understand that the LRA:

blatant incompetence or cynical scam?

Still, the first thing it should be.
again asking for the language sacramental phrase: "Well, are not enemies, they own?"

[OlegTsi]

Сообщение от Altim; 2098791"

You'll laugh, but it's not Ayu- Dag. From what fright picture so named - the issue to the sellers .

When this picture was sold at auction in Germany Auktionshaus Rütten GmbH, Nymphenburger Str. 133 , D 80636 München in 2010 , she was named "Meereslandschaft vor felsiger Küste", which translated means "in front of a rocky seascape beach". Title Ayu -Dag invented or expert Raspopin geography , either by auction. It was then sold for two thousand dollars. Not bad for Veschilova this size ... <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

http://www.auktion-ruetten.de/ufItem...10&ShowTop=100

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Сообщение от antikuz; 2098901"

In your way it turns out that there is not him.analiz viz.analiz (examination) is not respected art for you no role

antikuz, I have already commented on one lot, with glued to him the authorship Burliuk.

Сообщение от OlegTsi; 2098091"

For the fourth time I've seen those. expertise in the painting "Burliuk" issued HTe "Art Lab" in all 4 cases, issued on counterfeits Burliuk. What are they investigating? What is the conclusion of issue?

I entered once before in a dispute with a representative of the Bureau of Research, who wanted to prove to me that I'm wrong and chem. analysis confirms the authorship of the painting. It was quite a temperamental debate. Time passed, and a representative of this laboratory has publicly acknowledged that I was right.
Then he took the time and in one of Kiev's auctions have reappeared two pictures with expertise Burliuk Art Laba, not related to Burlyuk. Violent disputes were not. And today is the fourth case, when I see the conclusion of Art Laba work Burliuk. And again on the fake.

Dear antikuz, show, please honest people of this conclusion Art Laba. If the assessment is issued falshakov confirming the opposite, either unconsciously lab doing something wrong, whether intentionally participates in the conspiracy. $ $ $.

[OlegTsi]

Сообщение от antikuz; 2099191 '

If you interested then please come to the gallery and ask for opinions from the organizers of the auction , I think it will be interesting to talk ....
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I wonder ? I'm scared ! It's a shame ! Sorry for those people who can get hooked fraud. Organizers of the auction ... Hmm ... How to say the least .


antikuz, if you have something in common with " the organizers of the auction ," that take into account everything that has been described above with respect to counterfeit paintings. Told them that information there , let them take pictures of everything that is clearly false .

[Игорь Гурьев]

About Veschilova I said that thing gives the impression of genuine.


And how there's actually - it is necessary to see the original.

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Сообщение от antikuz; 2099191 '

If you interested then please come to the gallery and ask for opinions from the organizers of the auction, I think it will be interesting to talk ....

Yes, actually all the interesting ... I think after reading this thread some sort one hundred people would like to see.
I have eaten here personally just curious: a) on the basis of any research conclusions about the authenticity of such a clearly questionable activities?
b) What reference materials are involved (if at all involved) during the examination?
c) If any of the supposed author of a work has no basis in the Art Lab 'and, in any museums in Kiev, then the experts managed to go out. Is it possible to handle the timing drove the stock stuff? (That's really neither zhist not believe it. So they Petrov and let ...)
And finally, what kind of magic "chemistry" that can reliably confirm (!) Authorship of a master?
I think all of these questions are designed to meet purely academic interest of readers, no more.
And it is somehow strange: you lay out for all to see some material, and when you turn to for an explanation - a sudden for no reason, no reason at all offended, and send further applied to instances ... (Already, come, a hundred times regretted that the shared information for? <! - 7 ~ ~ ->)
In the meantime, ask you questions - is not idle. And the forum comments about the future of the auction - it is weighted based on a fairly deep knowledge and practical experience.

OlegTsi, do not go there ... (In any case - alone <! - ~ 1 ~ -> ...) I am afraid for you!

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Сообщение от Toinen

Why did you select this art?

It is convenient to launder dirty money.
Just tens of millions of dollars.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от "Magnolia; 2099681 '

It is convenient to launder dirty money.

And how are washed on the works of art "dirty money"?

[etranger]

On the question of "respected" art

are increasing complaints about the state examination. Time is now unlikely to sell the painting, not annexing a piece of paper, which confirms the authorship of any of this or that master. Many traders, including knowledgeable, and conscientious, the need to take this as a burden and humiliation.
Wish some wit to make fun of the current situation, he can not find a better example of how the circumstances surfaced recently in connection with the trial in Hamburg. Sitting around a gentleman who calls himself an art critic, and writes for the hourly rate for certificates of paintings, which he had never seen, and also in store for those who do not yet written. There is no authority, completely unknown name. However, his signature to take effect, and if only in the basement of the gallery, where the fakes come true.

These words of Max Friedlander almost a hundred years, and in fact replace Hamburg to Kiev, and be sure about the date, Ukrainian examination.
Impunity and to some extent government funding this subspecies formed a "respectable" (who?), Art, writing their own papers for 150-200 dollars on everything.
No wonder the same Friedlander said, "Believe your own eyes, see the picture for a long time, learn to understand them."

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Сообщение от Kirill Syzran ; 2099781"

And how are washed on the works of art "dirty money "?

It's easy! There is a picture, Bob and Nick . Bob puts on an auction for 100 . Nick bought for 105 and puts in 125. Bob buys a 150 ( laundered 50) and exhibits a 200. Nick buys a 225 ( laundered 225 - 105=120) Laundry continues as you need ! Those interested can join ! The account runs into tens of millions of dollars! Tired of "The Scream " - will take on Marc Chagall ...
And we have empty pockets because of inflation ... The devil take them! ...