Nonconformists in Miami

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

Ilya Kabakov , for example. Neizvestny . Erik Bulatov . Alexander Kosolapov. Oleg Tselkov .
I can not call Mikhail Roginsky .
Yes Dmitry Krasnopevtsev ! Is not it? Yes, for someone like , say. And I say - all for someone similar. >

The first three - sotsart . Original, but in itself is secondary.
Tselkov, Roginsky - well, I do not know about the world , I think too much.
Krasopevtsev - perhaps, yes .

And the beast ? Purygin ?

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Сообщение от artcol

The first three - sotsart.

What - what?
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and the beast?
Purygin?

I'm talking about is world renown as a.

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Tselkov, Roginsky - well, I do not know about the world, I think bust.

Tselkov already known, and the time will come Roginsky.
He is still for many people in the subject titan!

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

What - what? >


I'm talking about is world renown as a .

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Tselkov already known , and the time will come Roginsky . He is still for many people in the subject titan!

Sotsart. Without the Unknown , of course. Ilya Kabakov , Bulatov . Kosolapov. In principle, Roginsky and can be taken to sotsartu , and rubles.

About secondary or known about it was ? I'm talking about first. Fed about the second. And you ?

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Sotsart .

For me, this napraleniya in art does not exist, it is all artificial, tile art , show-off .

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For secondary or known about it was ? I'm talking about first. Fed about the second. And you ?

Recycling of non-conformist world fame hardly be reached .
You can, actually, and many more call - Plavinsky, Yankilevsky, Bruskin ...

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Сообщение от artcol

For secondary or known about it was?

And can the examples of what the secondary Tselkova, Rabin, and Kras for example?
Cuts on the pictures in Nemukhin, probably, although he could imagine himself and then made a couple of times and did - the main theme of all the same card.

[Vladimir]

Judging by the publications and monographs in the history of the world of contemporary art from the Russian post-war hit only Moscow conceptualists , " sretentsy ", the individual names . Look at Amazon - where most of the books will be on Kabakov . Less - about Bulatov. Right or wrong, but it happened after the fact.

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artcol, pay attention to the provenance of lots of non-conformists Mr. Western auctions - everything from collections of western collectors and all of the elite , often familiar from numerous exhibitions, publications.
In the West, know our nonconformity good buy at one time zles him not because of cheapness or exotic , shoppers ponimalti value of their obtaining of .
And by the way : Edward Steinberg Abramovich , Boris Petrovich Sveshnikov, Vladimir G. Weisberg ... Huh?
But Rabin !

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Is it possible for the examples in the secondary than Tselkova, Rabin, and Kras for example? Cuts on the pictures in Nemukhin, probably, although he could imagine himself and then made a couple of times and did - the main theme of all the same card.

Secondaries: I do not mean the borrowing of ideas (though there is Kabakov, no examples, now I can not remember, long ago, but that does not detract from the very realization), and the idea sotsarta - postmodern irony always relative to something, and not on its own as an independent idea, and in Kosolapov Bulatov and visual-fine the second time as a medical fact.

And of those artists who's to you listed - I can not say, but they do not seem to be significant on a global scale, but Kras, which I would add Purygin and Zvereva.

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Сообщение от Vladimir

Judging by the publications and monographs in the history of the world of contemporary art from the Russian post-war hit only Moscow conceptualists, "sretentsy", the individual names. Look at Amazon - where most of the books will be on Kabakov. Less - about Bulatov. Right or wrong, but it happened in fact.

Moscow conceptualists - yes, it really is not unique. At least not yet met. But it's mostly performative, the market forecast does not, purely academic interest.

Sretentsy - interestingly, the first time I ever heard.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

For me, this napraleniya in art does not exist, it's all artificial, tile art, show-off.

The artists themselves identify themselves through it.
No, sotsart - a fact the scientific and medical.

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Secondaries: I do not mean the borrowing of ideas

That way we in the art will leave with a dozen names, and all others in the secondary is defined.
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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

artcol, pay attention to the provenance of lots of non-conformists at Western auctions - everything from collections of western collectors and all of the selected

With a classic situation is about the same - plus or minus.