CHA-3 11/17/2011 "Creative sredy.Forma-square"

[Seriy]

iside, I recommend that you read on E. Tar OPENSPACE on this subject , as the state supports or does not support the visual arts and financial sovrisk .
 What must maintain is evident in the first place , is a national cultural life, and secondly, people are engaged in cultural thing , not the muzzle each other beat or inject drugs - to maintain their cultural leisure cheaper .
Once again you do not know that for quite a long time, the Committee singled out the support film for everyone to shoot for 1 million dollars for the film , about 400 million annually. At $ 1 million can be about 20 years to carry out such creative environment in the CHA .
And now the state supports a number of projects , the list can be found on the Ministry of Culture . But in order to hold down the project , should appear , the initiators , who allocate the money ?
All we are seeing success of Mr. Gelman in this way.
Why Gelman in the singular ?

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Сообщение от Seriy

Why Gelman in the singular?

Gelman is not singular.

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Сообщение от iside; 1831791"

Indeed, much to the state and municipalities time to break away from the cut on a large scale in his pocket and saw off a little of the budget on a regular basis (preferably large quantities ) in favor of artists ( indiscriminately ), and this is against the shortage of hospitals , orchards, old pensions , etc.

There are public galleries ( exhibition halls) , and municipal .

[Seriy]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

[B]Because there is no "the ranking", all hang together, and undeserved, and honored, and perezasluzhennye ... (as I ponyalya )..

No, I explains, rankings observed, dump in a bunch there.

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от Seriy

I explains, rankings observed, dump in a bunch there.

 
"" Rankings "of your explanation, has an internal logic (the quality) I mean fame and regalia.

and one more technical question about the "label" artists should take care of themselves?
(Or otherwise provided for?)

[iside]

iside, recommend that you read again .... You do not know ......

Thank you kindly uncle, that once again they came and told everything to everyone, so much to us before your advanced knowledge.

That should keep it, obviously,

First of all, no one denies, and secondly, depending on who to support. There is a Shilov Safronov, and there are young talents, as they can maintain galleries and exhibit. You do not get to the galleries, so the person you talk just like Shilovskiy or Pavel-native claims that the government (represented by the taxpayers), they must be something.
Let me ask you a counter question, you pay taxes on the sale of your painting?

However, in order to hold down the project, should appear, the initiators, who allocate money ....

Yeah, that's how it all turns out to be just! >

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran; 1831811"

There are public galleries (exhibition halls), and municipal, and owned by public organizations (creative unions).

Cyril Syzran, yes, but there are criteria for selection, but as I understand, Seriy stands for the fact that personally he exhibited regularly for free, and probably still give rewards to being mentioned, in this case, it certainly is not recognized, but this is easy to guess. In general, the old song in a new way, it is becoming idee fixe, as in Pavel a by auction.

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Сообщение от iside; 1831791 "

I just bastard from such posts.
Honestly, even as a comment is difficult.
Indeed, much to the state and municipalities time to break away from the cut on a large scale in his pocket and saw off a little of the budget on a regular basis (preferably large quantities ) in favor of artists ( indiscriminately ), and this is against the shortage of hospitals , kindergartens , old people pensions , etc.

 Yes, the background of the shortage to make free exhibitions, giving access not only to those who have money , connections, and all the people who actually decided to go this route . Incidentally it was in the Soviet Union, against the background of all the troubles including war, made ​​the exhibition. Even at 41 , after the war was an exhibition of paintings and drawings, in different parts of the country. It can be found at Maslovka .

Сообщение от iside; 1831791"

? To work for free ?

 Why is it free , the state must invest in culture. They should get paid .

[Seriy]

Samvel, yes, here we are talking about Natta Konyshev and all artists who emerged in the Soviet era. What a striking difference with current ...
 And if the artist can exhibit free-to- let times per year , half ..- as it developed? how to establish contact with the public ? how to compare their work with other artists? because it opens your eyes when you see their work in the general row alive .

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Сообщение от Seriy; 1829861"

Another interesting initiative organizers of the " creative environment " - is the creation of Central House of Artists at the Museum " Portrait of the Artist ." Exhibition is planned in February 2012 under the title "Masterpiece" , which will bring artists self-portraits and portraits of his fellow artists .

February 27, 2012 mezzanine floor with 11 to 13 - hudsovet

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That's what was able to learn:

The exhibition in Central House of Artists 'creative environment' - an exhibition of Moscow artists club "Creative Environments".

Organizer and inspirer of the artist, Natalya S. Bogorodsaya.

[Самвел]

Сообщение от Seriy; 1832761"

here we are talking about Natta Konyshev and all artists who emerged in the Soviet era. What a striking difference with current ...

Yes agree, but this is obvious. The Soviet era , it's when people have tried this medium to be free without freedom . At that time very different eyes , and thus the person. Then be ready to make sacrifices for the sake of principles, a girlfriend. Expressed above all himself, and not its other capabilities . Yes, it is not even in the Soviet era, the West , too, at that time were completely different people , much more interesting than it is today . In general, it seems to me to be free can only be in captivity. Today's artists are free to freedom, they, like all of today's striving for success , appear to be lighted , zatusovatsya in elite places, ( if there is not this some sort of narcissism ?) So they are not willing to make sacrifices , to the maximum that he can count it's just being a good guy, from whom nothing is expected, it is not able to act , no matter what , anyone so completely uninteresting.

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Сообщение от Samvel

so they are not willing to make sacrifices,

Samvel, in our time to be an artist, already a victim!
(This time)

In life there are priorities.
which do not have to choose (children, for example) is two.

Poet (artist) must be in such a case, be childless and live alone ..
(Not to breed poverty, IMHO)