Ladies and gentlemen, do not go to college to study "Gelos"!

[Тихая Сапа]

Alica, and the purpose of such obcheniya.
Employment, expanding horizons, the struggle with boredom?

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In the first message you wrote to those who want to help .... And what is there to help?

[Сергей Дородный]

Сообщение от Sim

Sumasoyti ! Two years and you're art ! And we fools of 5-6 years in refractive universities, lectures were recorded in the dark , at 6:00 Graschenkova listened. This is , excuse me, what kind of education on current standards - higher , vocational , or what? That the diploma that they write? Just so , in plain text - art ? Or more and an art historian, perhaps ?

You are certainly right on the merits ( spoken several times with the graduates of these courses , any of the names of 70gg -present . Except the media , do not know ), but the girl is not my fault that everything is now.

Alica, sorry , can you calm down somewhat by the fact that in the arts , most people , IMHO , without acc. diplomas.

[Ika-Ika]

Сообщение от Sima ; 1733341"

Sumasoyti ! Two years and you're art ! And we fools of 5-6 years in refractive universities, lectures were recorded in the dark , at 6:00 Graschenkova listened. This is , excuse me, what kind of education on current standards - higher , vocational , or what? That the diploma that they write? Just so , in plain text - art ? Or more and an art historian, could it be?

 Someone here said of the goods manager and iskusstvovedah.V this Gelos , perhaps, to commodity researchers uchat.Otlupilos some of the lost pants , one page with the verse of an old book ripped . For all the minus -plus dollar poldollara.Vse affect the price . This can be learned quickly , but two years to learn this mnogovasto , though gay science .

[fabosch]

Сообщение от Sim

Sumasoyti! Two years and you're art! And we fools of 5-6 years in refractive universities, lectures were recorded in the dark, at 6:00 Graschenkova listened. This is, excuse me, what kind of education on current standards - higher, vocational, or what? That the diploma that they write? Just so, in plain text - art? Or more and an art historian, perhaps?

Seema, what's so surprising. I think that of your classmates are not all needed, all these "5-6 years", not everyone has had the appropriate motivation.
If we exclude from our higher education, "Istpart", "historical materialism and dialectical materialism," "scientific atheism", "scientific communism", "political economy", "physical education" and that there was still (just no longer remember), then Graschenkova Sarabianov and will no longer 5-6 years, although probably not 2.
This is me not to say that Gelos and MSU - twins, and just system of education and must have many levels. According to his needs and motivation. What's wrong?
And that called all the same, is not it "beat is not on the passport, and in the face." In the old days was how many people with the engineering profession. And nothing, everything is as it were engineers. And really who they were "engineering" - as it quickly transpired.

[Ika-Ika]

fabosch, the fact is that these institutions raise the walls and the more time you spend in these walls, the more saturated with the spirit of iskusstva.Bud that exercise, the history of the party, or something else.

[Пелагея Ларина]

The next time you visit the auction Gelos , has , for the sake of interest, a handout , " Gelos Institute ."
Here are scanned - photo 1-3.
The booklet is written all very nice and attractive, without price , however .

And, by the way :
" After the course , students receive a a state diploma , which allows you to carry out professional activities in the modern Russian antique market "

[Тихая Сапа]

Сообщение от Alica

Fed, it is interesting that " Gelos " not having a state . licenses issued in the spring of 2010 graduates of the "left" diplomas , printed on Xerox and pasted on the crust of a diploma ...

The presence of such a diploma, or lack of it in conjunction with this booklet , in theory, is a cause of action arises.

By the way , Alica, when tuition fees you sign any contract in which a fixed mutual obligations ?

[Santa]

Сообщение от Ika-Ika

Someone here said of the commodity researcher and art historian.

That said, Guriev, Igor.

In a subject - I do not remember too lazy to search ..

Most importantly, remember that statement.

And it is very accurate ..

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Ika-Ika

Someone here said of the commodity researcher and art historian.

Wisely said, I admit it:

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

I have a relationship to the art of Art and, as a comrade.
Syzran - tovarovedcheskoe soon.

 
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[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от fabosch

Seema, what's so surprising. I think that of your classmates are not all needed, all these "5-6 years", not everyone has had the appropriate motivation.
If we exclude from our higher education, "Istpart", "historical materialism and dialectical materialism," "scientific atheism", "scientific communism", "political economy", "physical education" and that there was still (just no longer remember), then Graschenkova Sarabianov and will no longer 5-6 years, though probably not two.

Well, so much more. Disciplines on the profile and related enough.
Up to 14-15 hours in the university, and then, after a walk in bookstores - in the "foreigner", up to 22 hours, with friends, obsuzhdalovom monuments of world culture, so to speak.
Not to mention visits to exhibitions, which are also missing.

As for the ideological subjects.
Well, the history of the Communist Party I was sick, of course, I got three.
And then I decided to become an excellent student - and started them.
That is, it was necessary to study Marxist philosophy, political economy.
This dogmatic serioznye area, with its dogmas, the system of their evidence, sophistry, rhetoric and eloquence.

And the amazing thing is when later, after I started reading the University of theological literature, I almost immediately into a theological dogma has cut and well versed in it.
Why? Because marksistsvaya dogma was built on the model of Christian doctrine.

With regard to scientific atheism, it was a very useful course on the history of religions, no "atheism" was not there.

The presence of physical education (up to 3 courses, I think) I'm surprised so far.

Military training was also very helpful, just as there are well taught German.

So education at MSU was excellent.
And now remains the same, I often talk to young (and not) graduate of art history, and a lot of very smart and knowledgeable friends and companions.

At random: Alex Petukhov and Basil Rastorguev, Natalia Vedeneeva and others.
Knowledgeable, friendly professionals, our replacement.