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Старый 14.07.2011, 15:17 Язык оригинала: Русский       #21
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I have something I do not understand > : in the first post by asking how to get started (this was yesterday). Usually ask: where to start, if you do not know where to begin ...

During the night there was examination of the canvas , relating it to the 16th century , and the picture with expertise moved to the Hermitage. Strange somehow it all looks , eh? >
What are you , Allena, surprised? Shown in the picture a single resource - to no avail , and now post it here - also no one said not to himself , " ba da same van Dijk , suggest -ka milen novice , and then enriched himself at leisure . " And walking in the forums pictures with the phrase " my grandfather brought back from Germany," in hopes of maybe . There's nothing new under the sun .

I'll tell you, Default , in secret - on the third , probably , already it makes no sense to give. Who's " in" - visiting many sites, and artinvestment in the first place. So somewhere in the " flea " in the picture would be more likely to find a new owner, you go to the next ranking resource.
All IMHO, all the luck !



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Старый 14.07.2011, 15:22 Язык оригинала: Русский       #22
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What are you all here astute and observant .... Thank you all for such excellent advice, draw conclusions .
Over the years, appearing on our proposals , such strange questions, then come back with promises and to show everyone (expertise , sales , etc.) - no one ever came back, and other means, nothing has emerged .
Just wondering though one case to get.



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Старый 14.07.2011, 16:25 Язык оригинала: Русский       #23
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In!
people > > > >, or who do not believe it.
trust nothing, sad, sad Lord!



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Старый 14.07.2011, 17:18 Язык оригинала: Русский       #24
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Vo!
people who do not believe either.
trust nothing

Why not believe?
It is even believe when there is something to believe, but when the shadow of the fence - and then nothing and no reason to believe!
>



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Старый 14.07.2011, 19:09 Язык оригинала: Русский       #25
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well, and that the canvas on the conclusion of examination belongs to the 16th century ....
 Is it in the 16th century, paintings have not been contacted ?
 Nelzya exclude the possibility that some pretzel - lover drawing
written in German or Flemish in the 16th century this picture.
 A hundred years later saw a picture Rubens, he looked up the story , and he expertly copied her , forgetting to link to the source.
 And now in the Hermitage will make this assessment, is attributed to the original author and will establish justice will prevail >



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Старый 14.07.2011, 19:28 Язык оригинала: Русский       #26
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Is it a 16th-century paintings have not been contacted ?
 Nelzya exclude the possibility that some pretzel - lover drawing
written in German or Flemish in the 16th century this picture.
 A hundred years later saw a picture Rubens, he looked up the story , and he expertly copied her , forgetting to link to the source.
 And now in the Hermitage will make this assessment, is attributed to the original author and will establish justice will prevail >
Lord! Well finally the only normal person ! Bravo !

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Why do not you believe?
It is even believe when there is something to believe, but when the shadow of the fence - and then nothing and no reason to believe!
>

And you ma'am, nothing, about the shadow on the fence, you do a local guru, learn to read between the lines, and then everything will be transparent, transparent, and you'll see a lot and you will see ....
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What are you , Allena, surprised? Shown in the picture a single resource - to no avail , and now post it here - also no one said not to himself , " ba da same van Dijk , suggest -ka milen novice , and then enriched himself at leisure . " And walking in the forums pictures with the phrase " my grandfather brought back from Germany," in hopes of maybe . There's nothing new under the sun .

I'll tell you, Default , in secret - on the third , probably , already it makes no sense to give. Who's " in" - visiting many sites, and artinvestment in the first place. So somewhere in the " flea " in the picture would be more likely to find a new owner, you go to the next ranking resource.
All IMHO, all the luck !
A gentleman who Mimoprohodil probably still need to pass this theme as it is not faint of heart ....




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Старый 14.07.2011, 21:59 Язык оригинала: Русский       #27
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Vladimir ste, first of all stop being rude to people , and secondly your show-off for visitors * * not umestny.Tut for your information and your subject in some part of the serious and respected experts in painting and art , and you all about my * expert * that she allegedly in St. Petersburg and perhaps call is not possible to tell a person with expertise in hand - that he went into any internet cafe and sent by scanning paper or e-mail or directly to the on - forum.A so this picture of my grandfather wrote a very Rubens ( Rubens also >) , and he was an amateur painter , genes which are passed through generation of the famous Rubens mladshemu.Tak that rejoice ... >



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Старый 14.07.2011, 22:22 Язык оригинала: Русский       #28
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Vladimir, I wish to open your eyes, but what should have written Redbor treated more as sarcasm, but rather as a frank banter.



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Старый 15.07.2011, 10:34 Язык оригинала: Русский       #29
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Vladimir, sorry to open your eyes, but what should have written Redbor treated more as sarcasm, but rather as a frank banter.

Yes, ladies and gentlemen Members with humor you have problems ....
> > >

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Vladimir ste, first of all stop being rude to people , and secondly your show-off for visitors * * not umestny.Tut for your information and your subject in some part of the serious and respected connoisseur of painting and art , and you're all about their expertise * * that it is supposedly in St. Petersburg and perhaps call is not possible to tell a person with expertise in hand - that he went into any Internet cafe, and by scanning paper or sent to the post office or directly on forum.A on this picture , so my grandfather wrote a very Rubens ( Rubens also >) , and he was an amateur painter , genes which are passed through generation of the famous Rubens mladshemu.Tak that rejoice .. . >
Yes, the Lord is with you ! whom I was rude , here you are dear to contact me for you, but it is not good for a man who considers himself a connoisseur of art and highly- art ... well , okay , I forgive you this little faux pas ... > with regards to expertise, then I do not see anyone to show it ... want to see the opinion , leave a position, to meet, discuss .... >




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Старый 15.07.2011, 13:32 Язык оригинала: Русский       #30
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with regards to expertise, then I do not see anyone to show it.
Topic moved smoothly into the stage of flooding.

Vladimir ste you still too early to give estimates forum members.

PS

The word "until" is written out of courtesy.



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