Graphics "amateur"

[Konstantin]

Samvel, Please add the picture again, for some technical reasons, it vanished.

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от zarajara; 1684761"

And here is the "off " - the work of Valentin Podpomogov

zarajara, even very professional work with care and love will make ...
But my opinion on the " amateurs ":
Dictionary outdated interpretation ..
In art, more no kitsch, no amateurs ..
It all depends on the circumstances , of course, but these concepts are purely subjective , now ...

[Posav]

Thoroughness in layman of course there is , but it is a consequence of the lack of academic education. Ie a professional image goes from general to specific , and dilettante ( amateur ) sees the details and copy them . Accordingly, the details are, but the proportions , perspective and so on. lame . They also dominated the literary retelling , other forms of perception, so to speak , not trained. But most importantly they have no vaccinations against kitsch.

[zarajara]

Haroutiun Samuelian,
Unfortunately did not find it online easel, only caricatures.
It PhD in Physics and Mathematics Sciences, but a very long time - an artist, and recognized master.
http://www.cartoonia.ru/entsiklopedi...uelyan-aruryun

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Сообщение от ConSferArt

in a classical education was always taught that the layman - it does not mean bad, stupid, not educated, developed one-sidedly. Amateur - someone who is only the beginning of a career path. Amateur may be an expert, can not have education, but to have such an eye that is not the pros. Be a cheerleader - means to have open the way for development. Man looking for.

Amateur is not necessarily at the beginning (the same Podpomogov, by the way, Honored Artist of Armenian SSR), an amateur can be a great and an acknowledged master
In no way, speaking of artists, dilettantes, I do not mean the kind of "poor quality" of their work. If you were taught, so - wrong. It only means that the person did not receive academic art education.
I think that this fact (the absence of the academic school) in their work there, that does not mean bad, or poor quality.
Depends on the level of intellect and talent, and gives some specifics amateurism, so I propose to understand - what the specifics? what is it expressed? I managed to find something (or so it seems), can someone else ideas on this topic.

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Сообщение от Posav

But most importantly they have no vaccinations against kitsch.

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Posav, does not agree with this definition!

Subject: "kitsch" is a "black hole" ..

Kitsch is not now!
The train is gone!

[Posav]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

Posav, does not agree with this definition!

Subject: "kitsch" is a "black hole" ..

Kitsch is not now!
The train has left!

How is it not?
Where did he go?
Maybe you're confusing professional provocative "bad art" with kitsch lovers?

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от Posav

How is it not?
Where did he go?
Maybe you're confusing professional provocative "bad art" with kitsch lovers?

"Just you wait!" (C)

then let's definition of kitsch!

[zarajara]

Hakob Hakobyan was born on 24 May 1923 in Alexandria, People's Artist of Armenian SSR

Despite the fact that he studied art at academies in Cairo and in Paris (Academy Gran Shomier), yet the classical arts education does not have.

[Ika-Ika]

Сообщение от zarajara

Hakob Hakobyan

Very good hudozhnik.Davno know and love.

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Сообщение от zarajara; 1685361"

Dilettante not necessarily at the beginning (the same Podpomogov), an amateur can be a great and an acknowledged master
In no way, speaking of artists, dilettantes, I do not mean the kind of "poor quality" of their work. If you were taught, so - wrong. It only means that the person did not receive academic art education.
I think that this fact (the absence of the academic school) in their work there, that does not mean bad, or poor quality.
Depends on the level of intellect and talent, and gives some specifics amateurism, so I propose to understand - what the specifics? what is it expressed? I managed to find something (or so it seems), can someone else ideas on this topic.

zarajara, let's restrict the subject. Amateurism specifically where?
What form of art? In what geography is and in which time?
"Academic education" where?
The concept of "academic education" in art is very uneven in the level and quality and their approach to the west and the former Soviet Union.
Is being accepted for the "kitsch" and "amateurism" in the same place (or time) in another place (and time) takes a different quality depending on the surrounding circumstances and already can not be neither one nor the other.
In the era of globalization and chaos in the art (market), the concept has shifted (mixed) and therefore without an "matching dictionaries" discussion does not make sense. Vain (and thankless) a waste of time and energy, believe me!