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[Ninni]

Excuse me for a few unexpected suggestion but I have long compared the "your" painting with other paintings Samokhvalova and ... I began to have doubts about its authorship. Shades of style composition, style stucco - with the very strong influence all at once impossible to reproduce in one sketch (which, I guess sketch to another, a very famous picture of Petrov-Vodkin, which subsequently created in the studio on sketches)

Even assuming that this sketch is written Samokhvalov Samokhvalov then had to stand just a step away from Kuzma Sergeevich that very, very inconvenient, it would be for both and hardly any who dare to copy the style so clearly standing next to the master.

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Сообщение от Ninni

Even if we assume that this sketch is written Samokhvalov Samokhvalov had to stand just a step away from Kuzma Sergeevich

It is very possible and it seems that it was. Samokhvalov studied, Petrov-Vodkin taught.
But my authorship of "sliced the canvas is not in doubt.

[Ninni]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

It is very possible and it seems that it was. Samokhvalov studied, Petrov-Vodkin taught.
But my authorship of "sliced the canvas is not in doubt.

While studying the artist wants does not want their shows, even a fragile personality and now someone else's mail and hand of the master and not the student.
Even so I think it's Petrov-Vodkin.
By sketches artists are a little different than the paintings and it is quite possible that the writing now - Kuzma Sergeevich cut something not vending sketch and A. Samokhvalov - picked up and restored.

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Сообщение от Ninni

it is possible that the writing now - Kuzma Sergeevich cut something not vending sketch and A. Samokhvalov - picked up and restored.

Of course, this version is interesting, but certainly some kind of a detective, I would say ...
We must look the other Central Asian Samokhvalova of the scientific expeditions of 1921 and compare.

[Ninni]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Of course, this version is interesting, but certainly some kind of a detective, I would say ...
Must look the other Central Asian Samokhvalova of the scientific expeditions of 1921 and compare.

I agree - so the same professionals Petrov-Vodkin.
I've compared the proportions in both pictures the same way too similar. It is difficult, it would be a student in the process so closely mimic stroke (compare fragments of writing clear land, domes ...), colors, proportions, building composition and most importantly - the creative energy.
  I'm only just expressed her opinion.

[Sandro]

Ninni, your assumption is, whether it is true, at the expense of authorship Petrov-Vodkin, of course, once in 50 would like increased costs of ... But this thing is known, published in all the books on Samokhvalova, various art historians, as well as in the book Chaikovskaya VI "Three Faces of Russian art of the twentieth century: Robert Falk, Kuzma Petrov-Vodkin, Alexander Samokhvalov. So, I would like to have such a Petrov-Vodkin, but Samokhvalov too bad!
And in fact, live shows on kaloristike, manner that Samokhvalov.

Based on your judgments. there is another version of the massacre of painting - his picture (from Russian) Petrov-Vodkin could write, using the sketch of his patients at the time the student and this student could not know. And when he saw the big picture Samokhvalov Masters, in anger slashed "osnovopolagatelnuyu" thing.

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Sandro, According to the straightness of cuts are made they are not specifically, and taking into account the disorder prevailing in the workshops of artists, the most of chance. Canvas lying on the table under a cardboard on which something rezali.Karton cut a while for him and holst.Reshil replace the cardboard with plywood, was found cut holst.Zhal throw - memory vsetaki, assembled, glued on plywood, signed and leaned against the wall. Prose is always more believable.