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Старый 30.04.2011, 18:39 Язык оригинала: Русский       #21
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No, it is even aware of .
Like this? On such a " kitchen -level "?
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The problem is that development money on a culture given to almost the same natural person that promotes their biases and political sympathies . Ie who disagree with his political predilections , with a similar theme and content sovriska , it remains behind . A taxpayers' money spent on promotion of ideas and sympathies of a natural person . And I must say that from the EP is a very strange choice :



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" global issues " decide
That yes, there is . Klimov really serious.
I understand the passion and denunciation and protection , but better still to separate flies from cutlets . I myself have dealt with this problem ( culture in the regions ) , including and in practice ... In general , denounce Hellmann I will not (it's easy it's business as before the election campaign , and before that the gallery business ) , just say that his way of not solve the problem .




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По умолчанию Forum "Believe in Tver

From April 29 to May 1, 2010 in Tver will host the first forum, "Believe in Tver
We want to see in Tver was a rich cultural life that every day tverityane racked their brains over where to go, what to see, what to listen. Formation inrastruktury modern European city - it is not easy and a long way, but something we should start. We start with the Forum, "Believe in Tver.
April 28 Tver residents and guests will present a new program for the development of the city, but not as a set of documents, speeches and reports, as well as exhibitions, concerts, round tables, meetings with interesting people.

Forum combines several cultural events
- The festival of contemporary art, "Believe in Tver
- Opening of the Centre for Contemporary Art "TVERTSA"
- The conference "Tver - a paradise for publishers"

Contemporary Art Center TVERTSA "will begin its work in the restored building of the former river port city of Tver. This architectural dominant urban banks of the Volga and one of the most beautiful buildings of the Upper Volga. That it opens a kind of headquarters contemporary artistic life of Tver and Central Russia.

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The first event, which takes the CCA "TVERTSA will become the festival of contemporary art," Believe in Tver. Its main task to reveal the creative potential Tverityan and area residents, to give opportunity to present themselves to tens of young artists, actors and musicians. The festival takes place including on other areas of the city (about 15), each of which will bring together fans of different styles and genres of art: from drawing and sculpture, to performances and electronic music.

The festival will not only beginners, but already well-known figures of modern art in Russia. The exhibition "Recycle" in a CMA "TVERTSA" show Krasnodar artists Andrei Blokhin and Georgy Kuznetsov.

Single value, as a factor for regional economic development is attached to the conference of publishers and printers from all over Russia Tver - a paradise for publishers. On the Tver Region, accounting for more than 33%of printing capacity of the country. The conference will bring together about 40 of the largest publishers in Russia.

The initiator of the Forum stands gallerist Marat Gelman, and it will be supported by the Administration of Tver Region. Forum "Believe in Tver" - a vivid example of territorial development through the promotion of humanitarian programs.

Gelman: "If the city has an intense cultural life, and its inhabitants live fully. Otherwise, people have the feeling of emptiness and a desire to escape from it ... "

This spring, the main cultural events take place in Tver. Join now!

To participate in the festival, "Believe in Tver send your application before April 10, 2011 by e-mail vervtver@gmail.com. Application can be downloaded here.
Read more http://www.vervtver.ru/p/blog-page.html



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Старый 30.04.2011, 20:52 Язык оригинала: Русский       #24
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just say that his way of not solve the problem.
What is the problem? Culture in the regions?
So how is trying, doing something, Perm interesting now see it and the leaders of other regions.

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Klimov really serious.
I understand the passion and denunciation and protection, but better still to separate flies from cutlets.
I do, "Department of flies from cutlets" are not very good. clear. What is it?
And let this be your Klimov in stopyatsot times worse on his couch, to sense from his seriousness - zero.
But I agree with Gelman:
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We are in the post-industrial society, in which the humanitarian sphere produces far more product than technological. For comparison: today 70%of non-technological innovation is in the environment and is non-technological. Total cost of works by Pablo Picasso more than the cost of Gazprom, while the proportion of creative businesses in the world gross product is 7%vs 4%in agriculture.


To explain the skeptics need to invest in non-production sector there is a very simple zadachka. Condition: imagine two creative groups - scientists and writers. The first task ahead of Apple, the second - beat JK Rowling. Issues: that Russia may appear more likely - the new iPad, or Harry Potter - and what would happen if neither those nor any other task is not complete? I think that the first question, the answer is obvious - Harry Potter. But the second requires a little explanation. Scientists can, and could produce the iPad, but it is twice as heavy, or 30%more expensive - hence the market such a product would not be necessary. But a second group, though not Harry Potter, the character can get a commercial success, for example, only in Russian-speaking environment, or running out of fame of his American colleagues. On this basis, we can draw a simple conclusion: there are universal, such as scientific and technical process, where you're vying with itself good, but there are unique - the humanitarian. The fact that a designer has created a very good chair, does not mean that 20 other designers can not achieve success by creating another chair. If there is Harry Potter, this does not mean that it can not be created another character - Gagarin.
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In the words of Professor Serebryakov of Chekhov's "Uncle Vanya": "thing to do, gentlemen !»"



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Старый 30.04.2011, 22:09 Язык оригинала: Русский       #25
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What is the problem? Culture in the regions?
So how is trying, doing something, Perm interesting now see it and the leaders of other regions.


I do, "Department of flies from cutlets" are not very good. clear. What is it?
And let this be your Klimov in stopyatsot times worse on his couch, to sense from his seriousness - zero.
But I agree with Gelman:

here.

In the words of Professor Serebryakov of Chekhov's "Uncle Vanya": "thing to do, gentlemen !»"
um, less than a half hour, as Klimov be delivered the following positions:
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While in Tver in the building of River Station Gelman equipped his exhibition of contemporary Jewish underground at the door on the street modestly displayed their work Tver people who engage in the conservation of traditional Russian and Karelian culture. They drove here Tver regional administration officials. They seemed to feel sorry for, though Gelman and suit yourself and your friends is fun for their taxes. There he saw a woman with a lace stenochki from the village of prominent. Embarrassed me, she quickly went out of shame.

A few days ago I was in the village Vednoe Rameshkovskogo district of Tver region, where there is preserved a unique and very laborious folk craft - vednovskaya line. What we call the "sewing", and remember, mostly on festoons on my grandmother's curtains.
Until recently, there was a factory, where there was a machine row - but it went bankrupt in 1994, the empty building now belongs to some kind of Azerbaijanis. Until last year, the lessons of Labour in the local school children were taught the basics of sewing vednovskogo, but last year the school burned down .... A embroidered not only girls but also boys. Sew very fast, with two short spines.
Now there are three factories working at home Tverskaya patterns ". And my grandmother, who still retain skills. Each - thick notebook with patterns, leading its history from ancient times (embroidery and lace - the message of the ancient, yet to be rasshivrovat).
Village Vednoe, Spring vednoe pugalo2 village Vednoe, Spring vednoe-lace village Vednoe, spring-vednoe Lacemaker Valentinovaderevnya Vednoe, Spring vednoe-box village Vednoe, Spring vednovskaya Line

Not for nothing that the village is called Vednoe. This is from the word "veda" - Veda. It is here that women from the Millennium Goals transmit nodules in ancient records, not knowing their meaning, trying to wait for the time when people have clearer minds and they will be able to read the message from the ancestors. These women are descendants of Vedeno Alena-spinner. They save cross for us, something important, without which we can not survive. This so-called Uzelkov writing of ancient Russian. It was used in Russia for at least 20,000 years ago. It was then that immigrants have brought her across Siberia to the Americas. There she remained in the technique of writing Lumpy - Kip - "knot" to tie knots "from the Incas and their predecessors in the Andes. In Russia "Kip" - a bundle of flax. This kind of writing in America is a complex intertwining rope and knots, made from the wool of South American camelids (alpacas and llamas), or from cotton. In Russia always used linen. One of the Spanish chroniclers (Jose de Acosta) - wrote that "the entire Inca Empire was ruled by a pile and no one could avoid those who are counted by knots.
Kip discovered during excavations of a sealed room of one of the pyramids in the valley of Supe archaeologist Ruth Shady Solis March. In 1923, the American historian Leslie Leland Locke, in his book «The ancient quipu» failed to prove that the nodules plexus of the Incas - really writing. In 2006, the American scholar Gary Ayrton (en: Gary Urton) also found that in the nodules laid down a code that is most similar to the binary system. Indians are fairly primitive system. Uzelkov writing in Russia to order more difficult. Here are many images which form a maze of meanings. In Russia is both a method of transmitting information about nature, space, culture and consciousness, but also magic symbols. They also encrypted vediysoy knowledge about medicine.
Grandmothers from the village Vednoe for 80, but surprisingly sound idea, all they have cleverly and neatly
Entuziastok group learns from the grandmothers. Say, a wonderful sense of covering, when embroidering - calm and joy.
Later, it became clear that Vednom still bake the famous pie. And then there is a potter and a blacksmith ...
But the first vednovskim house his mistress, Valentine's grandmother Lacemaker quite suddenly said:
-This is the last year. New yet I have to work even more beautiful will >)
All this against the background of consciousness garbage landfill installations customers Guelman seems divinely beautiful. It is a pity that so far in building the River station in Tver rage empty people, and old women huddle in stenochke on the street. But this situation is temporary. I promise you.
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In the words of Professor Serebryakov of Chekhov's "Uncle Vanya": "thing to do, gentlemen !»"
This does not refer to Gelman. It's one thing when he gallery business deals (here I'm happy for him), and another thing - the development cost of money (can not approve of). In general, I believe that culture - is derived from our environment, and so far, such as roads, we will not result in order to spend money on so-called culture in the form of present-day museums. Art - somehow not smart. IMHO.




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Lift and do it yourself.

I suspect that artcol is far from doing Gelman knowledge of their business, s, and how, though, and you.
"Grab-and-make" a strong argument in any debate. Used, however, only the party that feels his weakness, and in which other arguments left.

As for businesses, just publishing business I have been doing for almost 20 years, so I can judge about it, unlike you, who seems familiar with the matter is that on the kitchen level. Gelman fabrications about publishing Mecca-Tver not worth a damn. Only the absolutely illiterate, not knowledgeable in the publishing business person can come up with such a crazy idea that publishers should be there, where the printing press. And only knows nothing about publishing a person is able to issue a maxim of mass production in Tver 'Harry Potter, which show the whole world "uzho them!", But still complete it as delusional as the passage: "If there's Harry Potter, this does not mean that can not be created another character - Gagarin. What he meant to say, do not understand. This is how to declare: "If they have Agatha Christie, this does not mean that we can not be Arshavin."

What's next? In one city'll take all the filmmakers in the other - biologists, in the third - the geneticists? Bred of pure water, but it seems to some minds, this New vasyukovskaya mania for giants even completely valid.

The matter needs to be done skillfully, this came to an expert. Gelman just dust.



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and yet , for example , the road we will not result in order to spend money on so-called culture in the form of present-day museums . art - as something it is not wise .
Culture and " tighten " the road , as his time in the U.S., " pulled " the private car .

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in less than half an hour Klimov be delivered the next post
Yes, he's just a fool , that your Klimov .
Maybe a "serious ", but a fool . >

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As used, however, only the party that feels his weakness, and in which the other arguments is left.
I do not need arguments, I do not argue with anyone.
 
With you something for sure.




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Culture and " tighten " the road , as his time in the U.S., " pulled " the private car .
Simply brilliant ! With such views and really no argument is needed . In St. Petersburg is the Hermitage and Russian Museum , then the road it should be perfect .

Fool just your Gelman , because , as I have shown , at least in publishing , he absolutely knew nothing about . Maybe, " dreamy ", but a fool . So, the money spent on this program it will be money wasted . Anyway good to the people they will not do .



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Culture and " tighten " the road , as his time in the U.S., " pulled " the private car .


Yes, he's just a fool , that your Klimov .
Maybe a "serious ", but a fool . >
  " Okay , everything is clear. Everything seems to favor , except for the Gelman . I bet - even if he reads this topic , the debate is not vvyazhetsya >
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So, the money spent on this program it will be money wasted . Anyway good to the people they will not do .
Why ? Is Gelman is not a man ? He and family are ... and they , too, like - people >




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