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Старый 11.08.2013, 12:44 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2911
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Items sold isckustva always difficult , because they can buy a few, and of those few, many are simply not interested in the arts <! - ~ 2 ~ -> . Not for nothing is what the bank ( it was advertising on radio) is looking for emerging artists. Smell the bankers profit smell <! - ~ 1 ~ ->.
The Bank thus it is necessary to specialize , otherwise it will just be non-core activities, such as when the pot goes to the debtor in the form of tangible assets - buildings, vehicles, livestock yards , laundries , ruined database builders , etc.
If a bank with a branch network .. and the branch took a chance that for the experiment with artistry punished.

The lives of most people is not so much difficult as messy <! - ~ 1 ~ -> .



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Старый 11.08.2013, 12:50 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2912
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And yet, it is more important - not the "what" and "how" ...
Right.
That's Gelman about the same:
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is interesting that the recognition of "I do not understand modern art" served with bravado. And of course, "but I understand the good old-fashioned"

http://www.adme.ru/articles/ya-ne-po...usstvo-450355/

in my "do not understand" can be creative individual artist and the art can "not know." And to understand contemporary art is much easier than the art of the artist who created 200 or 400 years ago. Then why is this phrase so often repeated?

1. because they are really saying "I do not understand why it's called art." That is the modern artist is faced with prejudice at the level of the terminology:
- Art is something that is drawn (slepleno, written) hand of the artist
- Art is something that requires an apprenticeship, certain craft skills
- Art is something that "represents"

2. because they are really saying "I do not understand why this product is considered good art," I do not understand how to distinguish the good from the bad. I do not know where I get the criteria. In the limiting case of "why it is so expensive."

3. Because impute any work of their own idea of ​​what is the purpose of art:
- Has something to teach
- Should be beautiful
- Should be similar
- Must be unique
- Should be sacred
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Старый 11.08.2013, 13:26 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2913
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Guardian of dill, as I have artist friends in different countries, I can say that the successful cooperation with a good gallery-all a very difficult achievement of the artist. The Commission has been more willing to take, but it is not co-operation, and the commission, the work may lie in store for years. The cooperation involves constant promotion, exhibitions at the gallery, in national and international shows and guaranteed income artist, whether he has redeemed all or any part of the work.
"What is this absurd gulf of misunderstanding from your point of view?" - IMHO, the reluctance of both sides and a lot of hard work for nothing. Gallery does not want contact with the artist without a name, because it was confident that sales will not be enough, they will be cheap, and the exhibit of the artist here and there - an expensive business. The artist did not want to give work cheap and do not want to look for replacement, commercially successful stories and art, te create things in his manner, but more or less guaranteed to sell. There is a suggestion that the commercial plots is a bazaar for artists, but this is a naive statement. Picasso in 1930, when he was already recognized as a world genius, at the request of the Vollard, let's make a thread that commercial! - It makes for a series of lithographs known as the Vollard Suite, sweet pastoral scenes, the poet and the muse, nudity, flowers, bulls. .. It is easy to see that all created for Vollard has nothing to do with what was then the painting of Picasso. It was a side of the creative process of a commercial project. A special problem for Russian-gallery-business - is not hereditary, but often people involved in them in the hope of quick money. In the West, art dealers often is a family profession, and then the dealer is not necessary for a song in a hurry to dump assets in connection with the transition to trade shoes, he passes it to his son, grandson, and a collection of works of the 100-year-old is not a collection of works 5 years ago, anyway.
 Finally, Russia has re-evaluation of self-worth and professionalism as galleries and artists. I'm looking for a familiar Irish artist-as it plows the waves creates a wide range of works by size, quality, and did not scruple to 5-20 pounds per Ibee something sells at fairs, best-in auctions, te fills his work all the existing space. Here in Russia since been made.
The Internet has given to all new possibilities, but because the fact is that the artist is engaged in the sales - that means spending your time effectively, because the sale and promotion of works of art, it is a different specialty, requiring another device brains, other professional circle of friends.
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Старый 11.08.2013, 17:35 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2914
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Galleries strife. And besides , for an accomplished artist ( who has his own vision and style ) is not easy to find like-minded gallery owners . The gallery owner has its well-established and proven buyers views on research -operation .
Now you can own part in international fairs and exhibitions , without waiting for " the gallery's mercy ." In the end, all create your own gallery ! Many thin -ki in Europe and do.

and ... .. spending a certain amount of green money on your promotion may realize doubt gallerists to your account <! - ~ 6 ~ ->



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Старый 11.08.2013, 19:50 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2915
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spending a certain amount of green money on your promotion may realize doubt gallerists to your account
It seems like the right , but there is a big BUT . If you do not have pictures, gallery owner that you do not need, ie gallery owner interested in pictures and not in you - nothing personal . When the artist is trying to sell his precious , the first thing he sells himself , is his brainchild , the fruit of inspiration - it is very personal . Artist vulnerable and therefore bad in business.
Tandem - this is the perfect option if still able to listen to each other , so it's just a weapon of war turns out. It is a pity that such examples are very few .



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Artem,
he sells himself ... it is a fantasy or a " bridle over the ears for the layman " is long gone !
It is a profession , work. Of course specific , creative . If the painting narrowly interpreted as a reflection of his self-consciousness, a psychoanalysis,
sublimation of feelings ... it is not enough no handbook on psychiatry applied to list the phobia of modern thin -ing .
 
Gallery owner , eat - but needed pictures, and write about it . From the gallery owner needs denyushki artist ! <! - ~ 1 ~ ->



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Artem,
he sells himself ... it is a fantasy or " Riding on the ears of ordinary people " are long gone !
It is a profession , work. Of course specific , creative . If the painting narrowly interpreted as a reflection of his self-consciousness, a psychoanalysis,
sublimation of feelings ... it is not enough no handbook on psychiatry applied to list the phobia of modern thin -ing .
 
Gallery owner , eat - but needed pictures, and write about it . From the gallery owner needs denyushki artist ! <! - ~ 1 ~ ->




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Старый 11.08.2013, 21:04 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2918
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Artem,

he sells himself ...
it is a fantasy or a "bridle over the ears for the layman" is long gone!
What do you mean?
You did not read what I wrote?
What a fantasy, what a "bridle"?
I'm talking about money!



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Старый 11.08.2013, 21:05 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2919
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Now you can own part in international fairs and exhibitions , without waiting for " the gallery's mercy ." In the end, all create your own gallery ! Many thin -ki in Europe and do.
 I've signed up for personalku the CHA , and do not really want , and not for the cost of=, but because it was already doing and know - month training plus month sydney should sit in the hall. If we add a couple of international trade fairs , it takes 4-5 months of the year when there is no time to write ... or at night? And you do realize that the more an artist involved in the process , fairs, auctions , galleries , the more work it is necessary, just a year need hundreds of works, different , large, small , expensive , cheap .
And this, again, Russian background , assume that the galleries should all be worth thousands of dollars , in fact, have galleries range of prices , so that a buyer has not gone unaddressed . At the auction Gormlis a great artist, professional, teaches and draws pictures for the auction and gallery in the range of 100-200 pounds, where such gallery in Moscow ?
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Clube interest ?
Pablo, you do not want to get there , you do not respect this initially . Subconscious says - " not necessary" , and consciousness - " it is necessary, there is in fact something to give !"))
In a strange way . Why did you decide that I do not respect the CX ?
Well, if you will - what's wrong ? And if you do not they? So what? And you are a member of a member ?



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