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![]() Added after 15 minutes And moreover, completely))) In one interview, which took his Ukrainian journalist - before this (significant event), it warned, and had instructed. Tricky questions not to ask (and sometimes can not send) - on the skull with diamonds, not words, and so on. It certainly all agreed))) She was such a question - Tell Demian - who you are buying but Victor Pinchuk - he is so not a lot of thought and blurted out - as someone - Victor friends)))) It seems to me in this and the whole essence of the British. The genius of it is that he managed to insert these oligarchs. Saw a shark is not his idea of what the actual cause - shark sawn is, in some English county, and made it about 10 years before the birth of Hirst. Well tablets - butterflies and all the tinsel, all sorts of - from childhood, we have seen in the anatomical cabinets. Now this may not be possible - Victor namutit that would be all anatomy was studied with the brilliant British talent. Painting it - and it is something on the level of the child in primary school art school. Added after 24 minutes Цитата:
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Prices in the market Demian Hirst supported media hype and false statements. Hermitage did not take any commitment to showing his work "For the love of God" - a platinum skull encrusted with brillyantami? [23.12.07][To the article adds new information: see UPDATE, UPDATE 2] According to the Independent, in January next year will scandalous book economist Don Thompson, "Shark, stuffed with $ 12 million, dedicated, including analysis of pricing in the market of Demian Hirst works. In the book, in particular, the assumption is that the "sale" brillyantovogo skull "For the love of God," for £ 50 million of a group of investors, which included the artist himself, Hurst was "introduced" the sum of £ 12 million (24%). This conclusion is based on information The Art Newsletter, claims that the work was proposed £ 38 million, however, the author emphasizes the crucial role of media in shaping the price of an artist's work, as well as the mysticism of the possibility of such a deal because, according to the editor of all of the as The Art Newspaper Christine Cruz, "formally skull was not sold." Suspicion causes and persistent refusal to comment on the part of Hurst and his partners in the transaction. Investigating the mechanisms of art market, Thompson considers the process of sublimation of the price of Hirst's dealers and auction houses. In particular, he noted that when Charles Saatchi who ordered Hirst's famous shark in formaldehyde for £ 50,000, wanted to sell it, the rumor of a follow-up from the Tate Modern offer price of $ 2 million was also noted that Larry Gagosian, Saatchi selected as a mediator the transaction, refused the museum, selling shark manager of the New York hedge fund Steven Cohen for $ 12 million Tate subsequently rejected the whole story. A similar situation was observed with the work of "the love of God." When she was put on the market for £ 50 million, the news spread throughout the press and led to higher prices in the market Hirst. Two weeks after the news of the "skull" cabinet "Lullaby Spring", containing colored pills, was sold for £ 9.6 million at auction, making Hirst, though not for long, the most expensive contemporary artists. Recognition that the "skull" failed to sell even after all the accompanying advertising (according to even the designers at Lewis), would be tantamount to disaster for the market works by the artist. Because the fact of "selling" has generated a lot of rumors about what is really the deal never took place, prodyuserami Hurst attempted to smooth over the situation. They announced that one of the conditions of sale of the work was the organization of the owners of a traveling exhibition "skull" on museums in the world for several years. Then the product intended to resell. Nevertheless, none of the museum did not respond to this ad. However, in early October, Bloomberg published an article by John Varoli, who did find the museum, who agreed to show work: "... The skull will be shown as part of an international project of Contemporary Art 20/21 .. [State Hermitage Museum], which starts at the end October - said authorized [Hermitage] Spokesperson Helen Getmanskaya. " Notably, however, that this information was far from reality. According to the participants of Project 20/21, at the time of this writing, no obligation on the demonstration of "skull" Hermitage itself did not take. Moreover, judging from everything, Elena Getmanskaya not make such statements about the "skull". Nevertheless, the news that the Hermitage would like to expose the "skull" in March 2008, obletelo entire western press, hitting the above-mentioned book, Thompson, as well as being able to keep afloat still threatened the market prices Hirst: investors glimmer of hope for the further growth of interest in the artist, as Russian buyers are among the most gullible and generous fans of his work. Meanwhile, Thompson imposing on the doubts and tseny brillyantov involved in "the love of God." According to Hirst the cost is £ 12 million, however, according to art dealer Richard Polsky from San Francisco, it can not exceed £ 5 million: "The way the prices of the skull Hirst is just a way to attract attention - that's the function Skull According to David Lee, redaktora magazine Jackdaw, the market prices of contemporary art are maintained by dealers, purchasing their own work. "Everything that happens seems as though people are trying to manipulate the market by raising prices. We are not talking about the art - he said - This is buffoonery, as in the art world would not stand any other market. Here all efforts aimed at to be on everyone's mind, and that your actions have had a decent response. The work of those who got the attention of the press and television, are record prices. All this has nothing to do with art. " UPDATE2 [31/12/07]: In connection with the above-quoted in the publication of state John Varoli, we try to contact the author. He confirmed that he spoke with Helen Getmansky on the phone. In conversation, she reported that the Hermitage Museum plans to show the work of Damian Hirst's "For the love of God" in May 2008. The quality of telephone service was excellent, and Varoli distinctly heard every word. Varoli stressed that in this situation is just a reporter, bringing to the attention of public officials say the Hermitage Museum. And that Hetman told him on October 6, exactly in line with information received on 5 October in Kiev from Damien Hirst. So when writing articles could be no doubt allegations hetman, which only Confirm that Damien Hirst said Varoli Добавлено через 58 минут ![]() ![]() ![]() Цитата:
Damien Hirst set a new price record with an investment banker in formaldehyde "[22/10/08] After a partisan struggle, waged by anonymous investoromi work, "Oh, a pancake" (Oh Shit) went for £ 2.5 billion thing, representing the employee (razzorivsheysya) company Merrill Lynch in a solution farmalina proved to be the most expensive in the history of banking business. There are rumors that the work was acquired for the closure of private exhibitions and is unlikely to be is shown by the public or auditors in the near future. Another piece - "Day of wages", consisting of the empty envelopes, which were expected to bestow some five thousand employees, was acquired by the administration of Price Waterhouse Coopers for a price far beyond that requested. Art critic Mathias Van-Lear Hirst congratulated on its decision to sell all these works, relating to his period of "financial meltdown". ... Meanwhile, Hirst's agent said he was satisfied with the price ... "While we are concerned, where you can reliably to attach a check for that amount" (Humor & Satire) Damien Hirst once again shocked the world of art-business [22/10/08] Immediately after the mock auction in a particularly larg size, has brought $ 200 million for the canned animals and other items that are "must have" in the collection, Damien Hirst, not wasting time in vain, to declare another ambitious project. Building on its recent commercial success, Mr. Hirst shocked the art world (consisting of himself, galleries, White Cube, his two buyers of billionaires and thousands of mediocre imitators), declaring that his next exhibition will present only an art object - namely, his itself. While the details of works tentatively called "naked greed" remain unclear, Hurst said that he would like to put up for public auction zafarmalinennoe his body. It is not clear whether he himself farmalinit or prefer to work with a German professor Gunther von Hagen to be used to achieve better plastinizatsiyu rezultata. In any case, Hirst has hinted that inkrustiruet brillyantami one of the parts of his body, thus surpassing by urnovnyu own the same work - $ 100 million platinum brillyantovy skull. Asked what body parts he will encrust, Hurst showed the crowd the middle finger. "The Future - excellent for all, - he said, adding, - only, perhaps, except me." "Some so-called art critics have dared to suggest that I'm vain, superficial, mediocre character, concerned only with money and themselves. My next exhibition oprovergent all these conjectures. Hurst grabbed a look at a journalist who asked - as he was later going to pull itself out of the solution. "Obviously, you do not understand either art or an artist. I give her all the creativity that I have. I do not think it will be after the show. I'm paying people to do what I say and I suggest that you do also " On the question of whether the White Cube or Sotheby's engaged in selling the work, Hirst said: "Be realistic. My life goes on. And how about yours?" He reported that his body with canned inskrustirovannym brillyantami middle finger will be put up on eBay with a reserve of £ 500,000 million Russian tycoon, art collector and oil magnate and arms dealer Serge Zhugrev, they say, was willing to buy marinated /plastinirovannogo Hirst for his private collection. "It would be great to keep Hirst at his spiritual home, money-hungry Moscow" - a vague smell of vodka Zhugrev said. But the Russian is a serious competitor. There are rumors that the Vatican is using the services of a secret mediator will not allow themselves to beat. Cardinal von Riesling, head of a complete set of the Vatican art collections, recently commented on the deeply religious order Hirst. "From us just escaped his" Golden Calf "and" Angel pig "at Sotheby's. But this time we are ready. We have 3,500 nuns from developing countries, arrayed in a row to put the bid on eBay at the last minute, and I already opened his account with PayPal ". The Cardinal won Riesling added that Hirst was Christ-like figure in contemporary art world and that its spiritual value can be fully appreciated only after his death. "Imagine how irresistibly towards us pilgrims, if we put the canned body Hirst with brillyantovym finger, ascension to heaven, in the case in Bazelike St. Peter ..." - Indistinctly uttered smelling roses Riesling. A friend of Hearst, neprezvoydenny illusionist David Blaine, predicted that if the Vatican will become "naked greed", he will be able to do so that she will disappear within three days, leaving the Vatican with an empty showcase. "And do not be surprised if Hearst will soon be discovered paparazzi somersault with Galilean harlot with the initials MM. At this time there is nothing left Thain, believe me" - predicted Blaine. (Humor & Satire) Unprecedented in the history of Demian Hirst's auction of works scheduled for September 15-16 [13/09/08] Covers the international English magazine The Times released in September, 2008 (Tyler Green) Almost immediately after the announcement of the unprecedented Damien Hirst Sotheby's on September 15, which exposed more than 200 papers in 2008 goda, Hirst's dealer, the London gallery White Cube, opened the press about problems with the demand for works by the artist. Gallery has allowed publication of The ArtNewspaper familiar with the relevant accounting documents, according to which its stores remains unsold more than 200 works by Hirst for an amount exceeding $ 200 million includes 34 work with butterflies the 2005-2008 period at a price of $ 300,000 to $ 4 million, 35 spiral paintings 2005 - 2008 period ($ 800,000); seven paintings with circles 2006-2008 ($ 600,000 to $ 1.9 million) and six pharmaceutical cabinets ($ 200,000 - $ 5 million), one of which, "The agony of St. Jude" 2002-2003, according to the -all remain unsold in 2003. As you know, Mr. Hurst did not create his works himself, preferring to use the services of assistants. Due to the relative simplicity of execution, the work done by them with enviable speed, chtomoglo lead to a glut in the market in the absence of a sufficient number of buyers. Through its unprecedented nature and obvious scandalous upcoming auction poses a marketing ploy, something resembling a story with Brillyantovym skull, which sold well and remains a big question. The fact that in practice the market the artist usually has no right to put to open auction is the number of papers in bypassing their dealers (in this case, White Cube and Gagosian) sa. This is due partly to the fact that the successful manipulation of demand in interesah of the same artist (and maintaining the balance of the price), the dealer must retain full control over the market. Any sale at auction - a certain kind of risk, especially when exposed to the trades is the number of works. The failure of the upcoming Sotheby's auction could have an impact on its dealers, provoking a drop in the total price of Hirst's work. The conflicting expectations of the outcome of the auction affected by the recent devaluation of shares of Sotheby's by 8%. Perhaps investors are based on the assumption that all who are still in need of the animals in formaldehyde for disposable prices, they have already purchased. Although there is room for doubt always. Given the nature of the art market and the history of Brillyantovym skull on art sales market may be carried out in the absence of precise identification of the buyer. Damien Hirst is the richest artist in the history of Britain, whose fortune is estimated at $ 200 million to $ 500 million Some argue that he has spent about $ 200 million just for its own collection of art collection. Simultaneously, with the successful outcome of the upcoming auction of 223 works will be spent $ 117 million A small addition to the financial condition, but all the same. Последний раз редактировалось noart; 26.02.2010 в 21:37. Причина: Добавлено сообщение |
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Prices in the market Demian Hirst supported media hype and false statements. Hermitage did not take any commitment to showing his work "For the love of God" - a platinum skull encrusted with brillyantami? [23.12.07][To the article adds new information: see UPDATE, UPDATE 2] According to the Independent, in January next year will scandalous book economist Don Thompson, "Shark, stuffed with $ 12 million, dedicated, including analysis of pricing in the market of Demian Hirst works. In the book, in particular, the assumption is that the "sale" brillyantovogo skull "For the love of God," for £ 50 million of a group of investors, which included the artist himself, Hurst was "introduced" the sum of £ 12 million (24%). This conclusion is based on information The Art Newsletter, claims that the work was proposed £ 38 million, however, the author emphasizes the crucial role of media in shaping the price of an artist's work, as well as the mysticism of the possibility of such a deal because, according to the editor of all of the as The Art Newspaper Christine Cruz, "formally skull was not sold." Suspicion causes and persistent refusal to comment on the part of Hurst and his partners in the transaction. Investigating the mechanisms of art market, Thompson considers the process of sublimation of the price of Hirst's dealers and auction houses. In particular, he noted that when Charles Saatchi who ordered Hirst's famous shark in formaldehyde for £ 50,000, wanted to sell it, the rumor of a follow-up from the Tate Modern offer price of $ 2 million was also noted that Larry Gagosian, Saatchi selected as a mediator the transaction, refused the museum, selling shark manager of the New York hedge fund Steven Cohen for $ 12 million Tate subsequently rejected the whole story. A similar situation was observed with the work of "the love of God." When she was put on the market for £ 50 million, the news spread throughout the press and led to higher prices in the market Hirst. Two weeks after the news of the "skull" cabinet "Lullaby Spring", containing colored pills, was sold for £ 9.6 million at auction, making Hirst, though not for long, the most expensive contemporary artists. Recognition that the "skull" failed to sell even after all the accompanying advertising (according to even the designers at Lewis), would be tantamount to disaster for the market works by the artist. Because the fact of "selling" has generated a lot of rumors about what is really the deal never took place, prodyuserami Hurst attempted to smooth over the situation. They announced that one of the conditions of sale of the work was the organization of the owners of a traveling exhibition "skull" on museums in the world for several years. Then the product intended to resell. Nevertheless, none of the museum did not respond to this ad. However, in early October, Bloomberg published an article by John Varoli, who did find the museum, who agreed to show work: "... The skull will be shown as part of an international project of Contemporary Art 20/21 .. [State Hermitage Museum], which starts at the end October - said authorized [Hermitage] Spokesperson Helen Getmanskaya. " Notably, however, that this information was far from reality. According to the participants of Project 20/21, at the time of this writing, no obligation on the demonstration of "skull" Hermitage itself did not take. Moreover, judging from everything, Elena Getmanskaya not make such statements about the "skull". Nevertheless, the news that the Hermitage would like to expose the "skull" in March 2008, obletelo entire western press, hitting the above-mentioned book, Thompson, as well as being able to keep afloat still threatened the market prices Hirst: investors glimmer of hope for the further growth of interest in the artist, as Russian buyers are among the most gullible and generous fans of his work. Meanwhile, Thompson imposing on the doubts and tseny brillyantov involved in "the love of God." According to Hirst the cost is £ 12 million, however, according to art dealer Richard Polsky from San Francisco, it can not exceed £ 5 million: "The way the prices of the skull Hirst is just a way to attract attention - that's the function Skull According to David Lee, redaktora magazine Jackdaw, the market prices of contemporary art are maintained by dealers, purchasing their own work. "Everything that happens seems as though people are trying to manipulate the market by raising prices. We are not talking about the art - he said - This is buffoonery, as in the art world would not stand any other market. Here all efforts aimed at to be on everyone's mind, and that your actions have had a decent response. The work of those who got the attention of the press and television, are record prices. All this has nothing to do with art. " UPDATE2 [31/12/07]: In connection with the above-quoted in the publication of state John Varoli, we try to contact the author. He confirmed that he spoke with Helen Getmansky on the phone. In conversation, she reported that the Hermitage Museum plans to show the work of Damian Hirst's "For the love of God" in May 2008. The quality of telephone service was excellent, and Varoli distinctly heard every word. Varoli stressed that in this situation is just a reporter, bringing to the attention of public officials say the Hermitage Museum. And that Hetman told him on October 6, exactly in line with information received on 5 October in Kiev from Damien Hirst. So when writing articles could be no doubt allegations hetman, which only Confirm that Damien Hirst said Varoli http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...pI&refer=muse# Последний раз редактировалось noart; 26.02.2010 в 20:45. |
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After a partisan struggle, waged by anonymous investoromi work, "Oh, a pancake" (Oh Shit) went for £ 2.5 billion thing, representing the employee (razzorivsheysya) company Merrill Lynch in a solution farmalina proved to be the most expensive in the history of banking business. There are rumors that the work was acquired for the closure of private exhibitions and is unlikely to be is shown by the public or auditors in the near future. Another piece - "Day of wages", consisting of the empty envelopes, which were expected to bestow some five thousand employees, was acquired by the administration of Price Waterhouse Coopers for a price far beyond that requested. Art critic Mathias Van-Lear Hirst congratulated on its decision to sell all these works, relating to his period of "financial meltdown". ... Meanwhile, Hirst's agent said he was satisfied with the price ... "While we are concerned, where you can reliably to attach a check for that amount" (Humor & Satire) Damien Hirst once again shocked the world of art-business [22/10/08] Immediately after the mock auction in a particularly larg size, has brought $ 200 million for the canned animals and other items that are "must have" in the collection, Damien Hirst, not wasting time in vain, to declare another ambitious project. Building on its recent commercial success, Mr. Hirst shocked the art world (consisting of himself, galleries, White Cube, his two buyers of billionaires and thousands of mediocre imitators), declaring that his next exhibition will present only an art object - namely, his itself. While the details of works tentatively called "naked greed" remain unclear, Hurst said that he would like to put up for public auction zafarmalinennoe his body. It is not clear whether he himself farmalinit or prefer to work with a German professor Gunther von Hagen to be used to achieve better plastinizatsiyu rezultata.
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thorny path of British mediocrity and debila. there must be able to read between the lines and draw conclusions. Start from Bosco and Uorhala - Hurst continued ........ ![]() ![]() ![]() Damien Hirst became famous in 1988 as a young impresario exhibition entitled «Freeze» (at the time the fashion for a short time has established itself "in one word). Venue was a vacant building in the Port of London, close to the Thames. Hurst, together with fellow students from Goldsmiths College, the institution of innovative orientation, announced a new vector of development of art, Kojima concluded "the revival of painting the 80's and revived interest in the everyday banality, sexual insinuations, the harsh reality of life and death. Another feature, a respectable share of street humor and irony, led to a generation of Richard Peterson, Sarah Lucas, Gary Hume, Ian Davenport and most intense interest Hirst art dealers and art community. In 1991, Hearst's first solo exhibition, In and Out of Love, held in the Woodstock Street Gallery in London, he was also a solo exhibition at the Institute of Contemporary Arts Institute of Contemporary Arts, and the Emmanuel Perrotin Gallery in Paris. At this time Hirst met the art dealer Jay Jopling Jay Jopling, who represents its interests to this day. In 1992 was the first exhibition of "Young British Artists" in the Saatchi Gallery Saatchi Gallery in north London. Job Hirst called The Physical Impossibility of Death in the Mind of Someone Living, and was a shark floating in formaldehyde in the aquarium. Work Saatchi cost of 50 000 pounds. The shark was caught by a fisherman in Australia and had a price of 6000 pounds. As a result, Hirst was nominated for the Turner Prize , ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() In 1994 Hirst was curator of the show Some Went Mad, Some Ran Awayv Serpentine Gallery in London, where he presented Away from the Flock (a sheep in a tank). In 1995 Hirst won the Turner. In 1998, Hearst published an autobiographical book I Want To Spend the Rest of My Life Everywhere, with Everyone, One to One, Always, Forever, Now. In 1999 he declined an invitation to represent Britain at the Biennale Venitsianskom. In September 2000, in New York, was an exhibition of Hirst Damien Hirst: Models, Methods, Approaches, Assumptions, Results and Findings. 100,000 people visited the exhibition during the twelve weeks and all works were sold. In December 2004, The Physical Impossibility of Death in the Mind of Someone Living was sold by Saatchi to American collector Steve Cohen for $ 12 million. The product was given a collector MoMA in New York . ![]() ![]() ![]() In 2009, Damien Hirst announced that he will no longer do his most famous projects - stuffed animals in formaldehyde. Instead, he simply will paint. "Animals in formaldehyde no longer shock people, but they are shocked when you take a brush and canvas and move back", - explained in an interview with Hearst BBC [2]. ![]() |
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Vsprmnilsya anecdote:
- Frosya Ivanova, tell the co-trial, as you, from the heartland, from a simple working-class family, became the capital of currency prostitute? "You know, very surprised! .. Just luck in life ... _______________ Pictures: Shark yn stukistov "(for 2goda to Hearst) collage Kartreyena. because of which he pursued Hurst. |
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![]() ![]() 01/09/2009 The art of collecting art Once one of the most successful advertisers, and now a gallery owner, an influential collector and expert on the search for the young and potentially trendy artists, Charles Saatchi - non-public person. However, in September 2009, Phaidon Publishing will release the book "My Name Is Charles Saatchi And I Am An Artoholic" ( "My name is Charles Saatchi, and I iskusstvogolik"), from which we can draw a lot of interesting things about the world of contemporary art and collecting. Selected replica Saatchi from the book published weekly The Observer. - About the same time as you talk about "superkollektsionere" and as "the most successful art dealer of our time." How would you describe their activities with an eye to the past twenty years? - What is the difference, as they say about me. Collectors - people are quite insignificant in the general world order. What matters is art, and it continues to exist. I buy art that I like. I bought it and show at fairs. If I want, I sell one and buy another. Since I am doing it for thirty years, the other people in the art world, the idea caught. The fact that I sell something that does not mean that I stopped loving it. I just can not keep myself from everything and always. - Your way to buy the work of novice artists proved surprisingly contagious, and it was felt that this has had the biggest impact on the market at present: veterans and newcomers follow your example and buy things young, virtually unknown artists. You will take responsibility for it, in general, the speculative state of the market?
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The Swiss gallery until April last interesting exhibition of Hirst. The essence of the retrospective. Very unusual shark.
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