Realistic art of the Soviet period

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Сообщение от Fed; 2558701"

I did not want there to write , but is not naive, not splint.
But unknown to animal.

Some people also need to move the new, the unknown, not even quite Yeshe can and formed in line . And then how then can thunder :
artcol - discoverer of the Volga nevedomozverushkizma early XXI century!
It sounds as well? Sounds.

And here is the musical accompaniment to Povolzhye nevedomozverushkizmu :

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Then primitivism ?

This question reminded me of the frame /f " Athos ", where a policeman checks the hero Kuravleva pastort and looking at his picture in it , can not find in the current Athos that person in the photo and the question of the Mount Athos, and try to give the person the expression : " And so ?" .

[mihailovoh]

Fed,
Careful with inflation numbers -50 percent- that's less than 2 years, 2 times
30 proentov it for 3 years in 2 raza.A 's 7 - percent increase in prices in 2 times in about 10 let.chto we videm .
Real ruble appreciation since 2009 and 3-4 percent happy in minus.no would reduce energy prices and dayut.Vpolne States is not possible. That our rulers and artificially sdelayut.uzhe prohodili.1991 93 98 2008 without a real market can expect anything .
And to the price peak . It is only the beginning of growth (in monetary terms) , my opinion. Wait and see .

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

Just remember the perm " Animal Style ", by the way .

Scythian and at the same time .

You see, you do not like - then why post it in the forum? Much more interesting place to sell something for a lot of money. It is at least somewhat justified : they say money attracts money.

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Nice experiment with the promotion of contemporary artists (such Dubossary and Vinogradov , etc. ) has led to the fact that people who have invested money in them will be forced to end his days admire these works of art in a miserable anticipation when also return their money .

Maybe the owners of the works of contemporary "artists" ( type Dubosarsky /Vinogradova) and do not want to return " their money ", and just hang them on the wall and admire ?
   What's wrong with , for example , Comrade. Picasso in Moscow? Or that touching pig ?

Owner, by the way, of " Picasso in Moscow" is the Moscow Fund " New", " piggy " in a private collection Zabludovich , London , and the installation of 1992 "Rostov embankment" Vladimir Dubosarsky general is on display at the Tretyakov Gallery in Krymsky Val Hall 39.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

Or this touching pig ?

Yes, it Mylnikov something just resting against the backdrop of the magnificent , masterful work done with a lot of allusions , postmodern play of meanings , contexts, and , for sure, with high care at major auctions.

" We are not dogonesh !" ( c)

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

Maybe the owners of works of modern "artists" (type Dubosarsky /Vinogradova) and do not want to return " their money ", and just hung them on wall and admire?
   What's wrong with, for example, Comrade. Picasso in Moscow? Or that touching pig?

Owner, by the way, of "Picasso in Moscow" is the Moscow Fund "New", "piggy" in a private collection Zabludovich, London, and the installation of 1992 "Rostov embankment" Vladimir Dubosarsky general is on display at the Tretyakov Gallery in Krymsky Val Hall 39.

Fantozzi, here I will set next to your two pictures "of the Soviet period," as well so you have mentioned with the St. Petersburg vescht Mylnikova ARTUNION auction and the last major sale Nalbandian and Labasa.


Look, compare.

Attachments there is still a place, so I'll post a couple of pictures of modern artists, our, home of the Museum of Contemporary Art ART4.RU.

 "Now there is no such standard units - genius": "Well, maybe the old atavistic habit obzovut someone and" genius. "But there is no approved and meaningful self-awareness in artists. As there is no longer the high, full of challenges and contradictions of a high ratio of genius with a genius. Now - hyped relationship with less promoted. and popular, in fact, can be just. But before genius - alas. among themselves the title was not to buy or promote sponsors or hire blacks to write a decent text and pictures. Just did, to deserve the title of friendship. This had happened. " (DA Prigov well said and added that even a genius, the ancient concepts, "is the one who sits on the shoulder, or behind your back and tells you how to act")

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Hollandup, you horoshiveli.

But I did not think - and what side it is to this subject realistic art of the Soviet period leans?

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Сообщение от Hollandup

D.
Prigov

Here is his famous installation "Crying Eyes (for the poor janitor)" in the Tretyakov Gallery:

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Сообщение от Hollandup

D.
Prigov

Here is his famous installation "Crying Eyes (for the poor janitor)" in the Tretyakov Gallery:

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

Hollandup, you priiveli good quote.
But I did not think - and what side it is to this subject realistic art of the Soviet periodleans?

* leans in that art (including social realist. periods) has been an emotional knowledge of the world (and the logical and rational science.) Painting is not just a paint overlay, the vibration ... all artists of all time, one goal, it is an attempt to consolidate the emotion form (music and poetry), to express the sense of self in the space in which he was born and lived.

these vibrations, these complex philosophy-harmonic series are not digested by most people and normative aesthetics, you sometimes half a century that the majority understand and accept the new form. Only 1.5-2%of people can perceive the "search for harmony in chaos or in the rules," and not the plot number (realism or abstraction)
((With so many of the plot and rules born and increased in such a place, the Soviet artist was much more difficult to conduct a free search and express their emotions, and if this fact is clearly reflected in the painting - this take on a momentum acceptance, and the genius of the artist means >)

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Dear, Hollandup - very much! Thank you!
Cyril. Had a free minute, over a cup of coffee, went to chirkanut you a couple of lines. A comparison of the Soviet era and contemporary art in the aesthetic perception - a waste of time - a banal matter of taste (some prefer fish, some meat). I'm trying in the debate (tried) - to consider only the investment aspect. About modern art himself, Mr. Markin said that he was disappointed (not aesthetically of course), and financial - rapid growth and as fast spad.Esche one aspect that impresses me in dealing with the artists of the old school - it is a hard life principles. Many (for example Korzhev, Žilina, Kabakov) have high moral principles and refuse to sell their work, or have volunteered their museums. Artists today less fundamental in this aspect, and sometimes demonstrate the absence of morality, almost openly stating that work is done for them specially hired men, and they make the final touch and the signature (the same grapes and Dubossary wrote about this a long time ). "Strike while the loot, while the people did not understand." Cost of the work of Lucio Fontana, more than a million, but from an aesthetic point of view, I was not very pretty, work Zhilinskis cheaper at times, but I was more than nice. When selecting investment (10 years) ago - I would choose Fontana, which sold 10 years later would return the enclosed, and the difference of the purchase Zhilinskis (exaggerated of course). What I sold probably tired you with my arguments, and gave rise to further reference to the statements of my humble person. Thanks again Hollandup - enjoyed reading your posts. And you Kirill:
Live as you lead a star.
Prancing like a horse in the arena for jumping.
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Your acquaintance, FANTOZZI Jura.
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