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Язык оригинала: Русский #261 |
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from the flock to the electorate - one step
Now the image of the sentence Tagansky court could render a verdict against those who raise a hand on "the feelings of believers» The point, of course, is not personally to Yuri Samodurov and Andrei Erofeev, which sentence of a court fines of 200 and 150 thousand: to them personally and for their exhibition, the artistic merits of which, to put it mildly, questionable, can be treated with varying degrees of likes and dislikes. The problem is: set a bad precedent, and judicial precedent. For the Art - and the exhibition still held by this "article" - you can get a guilty verdict. Fortunately, there were no colonies-settlements - prosecutor's demand to roll back the defendants for three years was cause for concern, do not require a prosecutor's brains in the same "modernization", as police. But court-appointed penalties - an extremely serious and sensitive for those who do not earn ten thousand dollars a month. Not to mention the fact that now Samodurov and Erofeev to go with the stigma of conviction ... The court's decision is symptomatic in the sense that it reflects the mood in society and in government. Actually, the court was followed by public opinion. More precisely, for the fact that in modern Russian court meant by public opinion. In fact offended, really offended, to feel like a "professional" and a handful of orthodox unfortunate people with brains, blurred extreme forms of Russian nationalism. These are the people who organized the procession around the building of the Bench that it would be comical if it were not so frightening. The ones who greeted the decision of the court shouting "Glory to Russia!" - The slogan of Russian fascists Manchu 1920-1930-ies and moved into the modern Russian political rhetoric and practice. But others, including representatives of the official orthodoxy that an excellent way to understand that the show no one really "insult" could not, and if ignited the "hatred", it is only in the minds of nationalists, whose feelings do not seem to have to worry about a Russian independent court learned from the process Samodurova - Erofeev tangible political dividends. By itself, a conviction can be considered a great political victory for the ROC in the field of further clericalization the mass consciousness and merge the state and the Orthodox Church. A first-class PR about. Vsevolod Chaplin, accused the organizers of the exhibition of "totalitarianism and intolerance," returning boomerang argument liberals by him: "They know what they are going, and are actually trying to assert its worldview (one of many in the world) as the sole and universal compulsory. Nothing came of it, because there are more unique and universal compulsory outlook - the Orthodox. Because, as was said once Ilyich on a similar theme: "The Marxist doctrine is omnipotent because it is true." Samodurov and Erofeev just went to someone else's site, where the power and authority not on their side. Such things are not forgiven. They are faced with very serious people.
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Язык оригинала: Русский #262 |
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Гуру
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Something wrong with my mother-Russia: in Moscow some types offend the feelings of believers, sacrilegious conduct of the exhibition. Or in the heart of the Urals gays openly declared themselves. It seems that we properly educate our youth. Especially in the sexual sense (otherwise - why the terms of some perverts and dog-waders?). "Salt" has decided to talk about it with the carrier of truth in the last instance - chairman of the Union of Orthodox horugvenostsev Leonid Simonovic-Niksic. All the more so for some time now he has the truth in the first instance - Tagansky court of Moscow.
- you know, many just shocked Permyaks recent event: we have opened the first official gay club. What do you think why it happened, even in such a harsh edge, as the Urals? - Well, it, of course, primarily in the de-Christianization. All because of secular culture, when the church is separated from public life. And that means - atheism. And atheism, in turn, means that everything is permissible. If a person has no positive guidance, they are automatically replaced by negative ones. Action, the World homosexual mafia, and plant sodomy. Its principle and goal - to corrupt mankind. So it was at all times. Lord, as you remember, he burned Sodom and Gomorrah for that very reason. He created man in His own image and likeness - on its own way, and not the Devil. I think all this is not accidental. In the world there are certain structures. And so forth fully here: http://saltt.ru/node/2873 |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #263 | |
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And how do you? Here, then, 50 such "insults": http://culturepopped.blogspot.com/20...er.html#update |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #264 |
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Гуру
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Tatiana Vorozheykina (politician)
"... In fact, in the process the question is whether artists right to freely express. Because the law" On offending religious feelings of believers "such things are not allowed only in close proximity to places of worship. Sakharov Centre in such a place is not . Moreover, the majority of prosecution witnesses at the show were not. They are exhibits - that organizers do not spread, but they somehow appeared on the Internet - were filed during the trial. That is, until the court yet. And witnesses invited and said: "You are offended?" He replied that yes, insulting. And so he becomes a witness in court. Here's how it was built around the charge. It is about clericalization relations between the state and society, about clericalism public consciousness. The fact that the violation of important constitutional principle - the separation of church from state. We have a secular state under the Constitution. And, accordingly, is entitled to the believers not to look at such works, and have the right of those who believe that art and can look at it in the appropriate places, which are not places of worship. That's what I mean. Samodurov believes his position is such that we need to expand the space of free creation, and that it is not subject to any censorship. And above all, is not subject to the Orthodox censorship. We are going to censorship. No wonder I give you this interview, and not, say, NTV and Channel One. But here it is already on the occurrence of the Orthodox censorship. If this is allowed, the Church acquires the right to make judgments about that inflames and that does not stir up religious strife. The state, represented by prosecutors as the public body is on her about it. A place for atheism, I would say, is sharply reduced. Because in parallel to the process - under the guise of teaching the basics of Orthodox culture - in fact, institutionalized and mandatory catechism. This, of course, very sharply reduces the space for atheism. But, recalling the "Tom Sawyer", I think that there is no better anti-religious propaganda than the compulsory attendance of Sunday school, as everyone knows from the novel ... " Read more: http://www.specletter.com/independen...itsialno-.html |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #266 | |
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Модератор раздела "Иконы"
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"By the way you are well considered one of the" Last Supper ", where the head table is cut the body of Christ Satan , and stained with the mouths of the Apostles His krovyu.I You think they are not religious provocation, but a pretty picture, a joke, I understand correctly?
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Язык оригинала: Русский #267 | |
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Banned
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"He puts it as an example to follow? We certainly do not affect the blogspot.com. Where would Russia do something with myself, did. Although, I think, for the recurrence of the same largest fines is even more than humanely. Especially since they will not pay their hard-earned, earned back-breaking toil. They'll pay as previously interested comrades.
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Язык оригинала: Русский #269 | |
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Гуру
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