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Старый 16.07.2010, 22:58 Язык оригинала: Русский       #261
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from the flock to the electorate - one step

Now the image of the sentence Tagansky court could render a verdict against those who raise a hand on "the feelings of believers»

The point, of course, is not personally to Yuri Samodurov and Andrei Erofeev, which sentence of a court fines of 200 and 150 thousand: to them personally and for their exhibition, the artistic merits of which, to put it mildly, questionable, can be treated with varying degrees of likes and dislikes. The problem is: set a bad precedent, and judicial precedent. For the Art - and the exhibition still held by this "article" - you can get a guilty verdict. Fortunately, there were no colonies-settlements - prosecutor's demand to roll back the defendants for three years was cause for concern, do not require a prosecutor's brains in the same "modernization", as police. But court-appointed penalties - an extremely serious and sensitive for those who do not earn ten thousand dollars a month. Not to mention the fact that now Samodurov and Erofeev to go with the stigma of conviction ...

The court's decision is symptomatic in the sense that it reflects the mood in society and in government. Actually, the court was followed by public opinion. More precisely, for the fact that in modern Russian court meant by public opinion. In fact offended, really offended, to feel like a "professional" and a handful of orthodox unfortunate people with brains, blurred extreme forms of Russian nationalism. These are the people who organized the procession around the building of the Bench that it would be comical if it were not so frightening. The ones who greeted the decision of the court shouting "Glory to Russia!" - The slogan of Russian fascists Manchu 1920-1930-ies and moved into the modern Russian political rhetoric and practice.

But others, including representatives of the official orthodoxy that an excellent way to understand that the show no one really "insult" could not, and if ignited the "hatred", it is only in the minds of nationalists, whose feelings do not seem to have to worry about a Russian independent court learned from the process Samodurova - Erofeev tangible political dividends. By itself, a conviction can be considered a great political victory for the ROC in the field of further clericalization the mass consciousness and merge the state and the Orthodox Church. A first-class PR about. Vsevolod Chaplin, accused the organizers of the exhibition of "totalitarianism and intolerance," returning boomerang argument liberals by him: "They know what they are going, and are actually trying to assert its worldview (one of many in the world) as the sole and universal compulsory. Nothing came of it, because there are more unique and universal compulsory outlook - the Orthodox. Because, as was said once Ilyich on a similar theme: "The Marxist doctrine is omnipotent because it is true." Samodurov and Erofeev just went to someone else's site, where the power and authority not on their side. Such things are not forgiven. They are faced with very serious people.

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And now the example of the ill-fated exhibition all know on which side of "truth" and opportunities until the conviction of the court. The official church has shown its influence, acted as a political force, able to assert and uphold its own rules of the game. Now the image of the sentence Tagansky court could render a verdict against those who raise a hand to "believers", the concept is as broad as it is indefinite.

By the way, no reason not think that you can offend atheists. The right to "feelings" seemed to be privatized by the official orthodoxy. How right brains - the state power. Biker preaches patriarch Cyril. Rappers - Vladimir Putin. At a national leader - the electorate. In the spiritual leader - flock. It seems that in their mutual interest to the electorate and the flock coincided. So, anyway, even easier to manage large masses of people.

The state ideology, national idea, and other chimeras arising when necessary to justify the expansion of degrees of freedom, power and the restriction of degrees of freedom of citizens, something bad Turns population. Therefore the role of propaganda, we have gradually transformed into reliable hands of orthodox ideologues. And the trouble is not that they impose religious values, and that they get into the souls of people trying to manage their faith. And faith - it is something intimate, where the official propagandists, even if they are sent by the patriarch, the process should not be.

In the meantime, the spiritual leader of the shares with the national leader in political dividends. Together they define the social atmosphere in the country, almost legally establish what is good and what is bad. We do not really duumvirate, and a triumvirate - the president, prime minister, the patriarch. And nothing better than Uvarov triad autocracy - Orthodoxy - nation, to manage Russia is not invented.

It is these values and approved - and quite officially - Tagans'kyi court. Herein lies the danger of conviction.

So we go into the bright expanse of modernization with banners in their hands, cabbage in his beard and shouting "Glory to Russia!" On their lips. Let's go far ...

Andrei Kolesnikov,
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Something wrong with my mother-Russia: in Moscow some types offend the feelings of believers, sacrilegious conduct of the exhibition. Or in the heart of the Urals gays openly declared themselves. It seems that we properly educate our youth. Especially in the sexual sense (otherwise - why the terms of some perverts and dog-waders?). "Salt" has decided to talk about it with the carrier of truth in the last instance - chairman of the Union of Orthodox horugvenostsev Leonid Simonovic-Niksic. All the more so for some time now he has the truth in the first instance - Tagansky court of Moscow.
- you know, many just shocked Permyaks recent event: we have opened the first official gay club. What do you think why it happened, even in such a harsh edge, as the Urals?
- Well, it, of course, primarily in the de-Christianization. All because of secular culture, when the church is separated from public life. And that means - atheism. And atheism, in turn, means that everything is permissible. If a person has no positive guidance, they are automatically replaced by negative ones. Action, the World homosexual mafia, and plant sodomy. Its principle and goal - to corrupt mankind. So it was at all times. Lord, as you remember, he burned Sodom and Gomorrah for that very reason. He created man in His own image and likeness - on its own way, and not the Devil. I think all this is not accidental. In the world there are certain structures.
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Старый 20.07.2010, 13:04 Язык оригинала: Русский       #263
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Alexander Savich. "From a series of travel Mickey Mouse on the history of art" in 1995 Lord preaches on the rock - an old engraving, which, instead of the Lord incised Mickey Mouse.
He. "From the same series." Ancient engravings - the Romans grabbed the Lord in the Garden of Gethsemane, and instead of the Lord - Micky Mouse.
Who is there Mickey Mouse "insulted"?
And how do you?
Here, then, 50 such "insults":
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Tatiana Vorozheykina (politician)

"... In fact, in the process the question is whether artists right to freely express. Because the law" On offending religious feelings of believers "such things are not allowed only in close proximity to places of worship. Sakharov Centre in such a place is not .

Moreover, the majority of prosecution witnesses at the show were not. They are exhibits - that organizers do not spread, but they somehow appeared on the Internet - were filed during the trial. That is, until the court yet. And witnesses invited and said: "You are offended?" He replied that yes, insulting. And so he becomes a witness in court. Here's how it was built around the charge.
It is about clericalization relations between the state and society, about clericalism public consciousness. The fact that the violation of important constitutional principle - the separation of church from state. We have a secular state under the Constitution. And, accordingly, is entitled to the believers not to look at such works, and have the right of those who believe that art and can look at it in the appropriate places, which are not places of worship. That's what I mean.
Samodurov believes his position is such that we need to expand the space of free creation, and that it is not subject to any censorship. And above all, is not subject to the Orthodox censorship.

We are going to censorship. No wonder I give you this interview, and not, say, NTV and Channel One. But here it is already on the occurrence of the Orthodox censorship. If this is allowed, the Church acquires the right to make judgments about that inflames and that does not stir up religious strife. The state, represented by prosecutors as the public body is on her about it.
A place for atheism, I would say, is sharply reduced. Because in parallel to the process - under the guise of teaching the basics of Orthodox culture - in fact, institutionalized and mandatory catechism. This, of course, very sharply reduces the space for atheism.
But, recalling the "Tom Sawyer", I think that there is no better anti-religious propaganda than the compulsory attendance of Sunday school, as everyone knows from the novel ... "
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You feel the difference between picture-joke and targeted political or religious provocation?
  And what's the difference, explain. "By the way you are well considered one of the" Last Supper ", where the head table is cut the body of Christ Satan , and stained with the mouths of the Apostles His krovyu.I You think they are not religious provocation, but a pretty picture, a joke, I understand correctly?
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And what's the difference, explain. "By the way you are well considered one of the" Last Supper ", where the head table is cut the body of Christ Satan , and stained with the mouths of the Apostles His krovyu.I You think they are not religious provocation, but a pretty picture, a joke, I understand correctly?
I have not noticed. Particularly insensitive to the attitude and positions of the COP. But COP sees everything, but this picture is not revolted. "He puts it as an example to follow? We certainly do not affect the blogspot.com. Where would Russia do something with myself, did. Although, I think, for the recurrence of the same largest fines is even more than humanely. Especially since they will not pay their hard-earned, earned back-breaking toil. They'll pay as previously interested comrades.




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On the question of freedom of the artist <!--~ a ~-->:
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Drawing on a blackboard brought to court German schoolgirl
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On Tuesday, the Court of Lower Saxony law-abiding Germans surprised his strange decision. From now on, students are officially allowed to frighten teachers hares. The reason for the investigation was an innocent child's drawing, on which the teacher was horrified.
It turns out, terrified rabbits, and filed for a young artist in the court. In the German legal practice is not the first hare. Five years ago, a resident of Berlin through the court tried to arrest a chocolate Easter rabbit for the fact that he broke on his tooth.

The case against Marion Formoor Kim Paul in Germany is called crazy year - a teacher is suing the pupil, which drew in the class rabbit. Education is over, school is closed for the holidays, and all the controversy continues.

"The child is now very difficult period, because I always come to a subpoena. We went through three hearings, and it was already the fourth, and the girl is now constantly have a headache "- mother of the respondent Karina Paul.

What harmless bunny can portray a teenager during recess on a school blackboard? But when 60-year-old lady Formoor entered the class, happened to her panic, the lesson was disrupted. Now she is trying to prove that this was done deliberately and only Kim knew a terrible secret about the fact that the teacher of German language and geography is deathly afraid of rabbits. Today someone from the audience tried to provoke a new fit, but instead of a plaintiff sent her husband and son.

Judge Pieper walked calmly to the case: it is about the Constitution. What is more important - the right to be afraid of rabbits, or their freedom to draw? Can Frau Formoor require that the girl never told anyone about her phobias, in spite of the fact that it's not a doctor and priest. The hearing began at 8:30 am and was completed in 30 seconds.

"The claim was rejected. The applicant must pay all costs of the proceedings. But it is possible for a month to appeal this decision to a higher authority ", - said Mehtvild Bekkerman, clerk of the court Vechta.

End of the trial the defendant's mother waited alarmed: her daughter lost the case, would have to pay them, and another family has threatened to fine of 5,000 euros. But so far everything went. She hurries home with good news.

However, the teacher could at least partially upsides for his offense. She shared her phobia with others. Now Kim and Paul, and her parents have a reason, if not fear, dislike rabbits.



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