A good artist - a successful artist?

[Jasmin]

Сообщение от SergeiSK

age-old question - who sells, which sells, who is supposed to do, someone cheaper ... Here's how you all think someone cheaper - the artist or the dealer?
At the guard!

Right, both on Zhvanetsky: "that the protected, then I have."

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Сообщение от Semen Semenovich

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Here I can tell you, exclusively, posochuvsvovat. Apparently you have it all all vtyuhivayut and you got used to it

I heard that you have with this case is even worse.

[DSF]

Dear dedulya37. With all that you have written, I agree.
      I just wanted to say that without the exhibition activities simply could not be a normal existence of the artist in the official Soviet system. (I am not talking here about those who have moved away from her or anyone removed.) In fact, after graduating from the university graduate had to dial a certain number of exhibitions to be accepted into the Union. And in the future of his show activity dependent, and its credibility among colleagues and financial situation. Including the waiting list for studio and an apartment (which is important). Now it's all irrelevant. Nobody will give you a flat no, order does not provide. Union maintained only at the expense of the remaining Soviet-era real estate and distribution of the workshops. I know some artists who do not want to join the Union, because they have their own workshops, exhibitions they organize themselves, and orders are also mined.
       Current exhibitions are necessary either for sale or, indeed, show the result of their work. I, for example, constantly plagued by doubts about whether or not I show my work. They seem to me weak, insufficiently professional, kompilyatorskimi. For some reason I think that an artist should show the result, but not the way to personal nemu.Moya "censorship" is not yet ready yet to put a stamp "approved for display."
       And catalogs were, they were. I remember them well. Yes, poor quality, black and white, and sometimes even no reproductions. But other then the quality was not, therefore, even a wretched katalozhek was important. I remember one of the exhibition catalog "USSR - our homeland." Since he was such a brilliant cover of "silver". He just made a sensation of some kind. I remember some artists for catalogs and prints was isolated in a separate workshop table. So that every incoming compliments had.
      Do not you remember how ratcheted up their noses, some members of All-Union exhibitions before those who have only the Zone? And now - who cares? I, for example, no buyer was not asked to put me on it, or I am a member of the Artists' Union or not.

[AlexanderG]

Est 'eschio odin aspekt vystavok, katalogov i pr.

Tsenoobrasovanie. Do $ 10,000 mozno prodavat '' for face value ', t.e. prosto kartina pokupateliu ponravilas' i on ee kupil. Do $ 50,000 - kartina mozet byt 'kuplena publichnoi galereei ili museem po resheniiu kuratora.
A vot $ 100,000 plius eto uze drugaia istoriia.

[Семен Семенович]

Сообщение от Jasmin

And yet, and "La-la divorce" - apt expression of one member of the forum as an artist ... Solid amorphous chatter, and even with boorish outbursts!

Сообщение от Jasmin

What does this mean - "you have there? Explain pyzhalusta ...

You there - it means, you have where you live. We are here - where we live.

Сообщение от Jasmin

One can see that you not only do not know the work of gallery owners in prontsipe, because they work in different ways: who - with one or two people who - with the group.

By the fact I know the job or not, I think we will not discuss. I expressed my opinion. But after reading your message you do not find any boorish expressions. But if you my words somehow touched - Forgive. Not with malicious intent, but only with good intentions ... Come to Kiev, I'll introduce you to his work, if you are interesting.

[DSF]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

Est 'eschio odin aspekt vystavok, katalogov i pr.
Tsenoobrasovanie.

I agree with you AlexanderG. In modern times it is an insignificant point, I think, for many artists. But personally, I prefer to sell, as you said, 'for face value', even if I lose money. Selling this way, I meet with the buyer, I know where my picture will be located. Some of my customers became my friends, some - good friends, some - regular customers. And this is - people are often poor, and quite influential. Therefore, selling now 'for face value' a specific person, I get and some of its capabilities. And here in Russia it is more important than money.

[Артём]

Сообщение от Semen Semenovich

Come to Kiev, I will introduce you to his work, if you, of course, interesting.

Semen Semenovich - what you do for work?

[SAH]

Сообщение от Jasmin

1.Protsess sale of any commodity - it is always "vtyuhat" and no matter where - at the Yalta quay or in a prestigious gallery.

Do not agree that it has found for you: confused:? Generally not a nice word.

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Сообщение от Artem

Semen Semenovich - what you do for work?

Gallery owner Semen Semenovich. (asleep already)

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от DSF

Exhibitions is needed either for sale or, indeed, show the result of their work. I, for example, constantly plagued by doubts about whether or not I show my work. They seem to me weak, insufficiently professional, kompilyatorskimi. For some reason I think that an artist should show the result, but not the way to nemu.Moya personal "censorship" is not yet ready yet to put a stamp "approved for display»

You are all correct to write, a sense of the artist is correct. Now, many artists, talking after the big show, they say among themselves that they see on the exhibitions of such work, which had not only to the exhibition is not carried, the house is not hung on the wall ... as unsuccessful ... Strictness to her was. I is not only about the "realist", but also about those who eksperementiruet or new wrote ...

[Семен Семенович]

Сообщение от Artem

Semen Semenovich - what you do for work?

For I already answered. Thank you, SAH

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Сообщение от K-Maler

I is not only about the "realist", but also about those who eksperementiruet or new wrote ...

You know, the realists, of course, also eksterementiruyut, constantly in search of. Realism - not a frozen block. The cluster has emerged many trends ...

[Ninni]

Сообщение от K-Maler

You are all correct to write, a sense of the artist is correct. Now, many artists, talking after the big show, they say among themselves that they see on the exhibitions of such work, which had not only to the exhibition is not carried, the house is not hung on the wall ... as unsuccessful ... Strictness to her was. I is not only about the "realist", but also about those who eksperementiruet or new wrote ...

  Typically, self-critical and demanding of his artists - the best. Afraid to make a mistake but it seems Michelangelo said something like this:
  "A good artist is a few percent of the talent and the rest - hard work"
(something like - if mistaken - Correct)