Elena Basner - arrest of a respected expert! Your opinion?

[Карамель]

Oh!
I just do not believe in the guilt of a person to the court verdict, and already the Liberal)) Oh!
Peter C, thank you ... <! - 6 ~ ~ ->

[Карамель]

osamnen, damn ... even jealous)))

[Аркадий]

Сообщение от Peter C

Comments about journalist M.Zolotonosova февральской program D. Kiselev, " News of the Week " , which dealt with "Things Elena Basner " (starting with 55 min .):

" ... Was already promising announcement story , repeated three times: " Basner selling this painting , she knew that it is a copy . Whether always our liberals will defend the criminals in their midst ? »

 What are liberals - protect Basner ? Even enough to read this forum to understand that another statement Kiseleva has the same relation to reality as the rest of his thoroughly false tele-claim . I count myself among the liberals , like Cyril Syzransky , for example , but neither he nor I nor many others , Elena Basner not defend . Problem Kiseleva not establish the truth in this matter , and to incite hatred and incite sharnarmassy liberals ( is the current trend, the crowd proclaimed leader and a guide shirnarmass Putin ) . Scumbag miniGebbels Kiselev only fulfills the general line ..

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Сообщение от osamnen

It is fashionable to usurp diverse social status, you are not the original, and there abruptly. <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

For this kind of petty , abusive , obscene photoshop ought to ban , IMHO. That looked like the original picture :



Placard with the inscription , as you see, has attached later , apparently people who hold similar to osamnen views.

[Аркадий]

Did not catch the meaning of your speech.
You communicate in a strange, incomprehensible language ..

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от Arkady

incite sharnarmassy liberals (this is the current

trend, the crowd proclaimed leader and a guide shirnarmass Putin).
Scumbag miniGebbels Kiselev only

What's this?
This Russian language?
(Or language "sharnarmass)

[Аркадий]

This ochepyatka not "sharnarmass" and "w and rnarmass" of course .. If you do not know what it is, here's the link:


http://www.slovonovo.ru/term/%D0%A8%...D0%B0%D1%81%D1
%81%D1%8B

[Jasmin]

Сообщение от K-Maler

What is that?
This Russian language?
(Or language "sharnarmass)

Russian language on the forum is where to go.
<! - 6 ~ ~ -> <! - ~ 11 ~ -> Everything is explained scientifically, and even about "shArnYrmassy" <! - ~ 7 ~ ->, and even with reference to the Phoenician alphabet.

[Питер-С]

Today (28 March 2014) in the October district court E. Basner preventive measure extended for another 15 days - until mid-April.
2-month term of house arrest expires on Sunday March 30.

[Artem]

Examination of the devil

07.04.2014|Cyrus Sterlin

More than 60 %of the works of famous Russian artists on the market today , are fakes , " authenticity " which is certified by respected experts .
Over 60%of the works of famous Russian artists on the market today , are fakes , " authenticity " which is certified by respected experts.

In early April, will expire two months of house arrest Elena Basner , now a consultant auction house " Bukovskis " and until 2003 - researcher Russian Museum. According to investigators, Basner brokered the sale of fake paintings by Boris Grigoriev (1886-1939) well-known Petersburg collector Andrey Vasilyev. This story has received quite a lot of publicity , so we only recall its main landmarks . In 2009, Andrei Vasilyev , a respected collector and art dealer, bought no less respected publisher Leonid SHumakova painting by Boris Grigoriev , " restaurant " for $ 250 thousand Provenance picture was spotless : to Shumakov she allegedly came from the collection of General Timofeev , which in turn received it from the collection of Alexander Burceva . As proof of this was even presented Vasilyev Reproduction , published one hundred years ago in "My journal for the few "

Burceva . Trouble began a year and half , when Vasiliev , giving a picture of the exhibition , I found out that before 2009 it passed the examination at the Art Scientific Restoration Centre . Grabar , whose staff found her fake and issued a negative opinion on the authenticity . Vasilyeva this fact a little embarrassed , but he wrote it on the machinations of rivals . A scandal erupted in half a year , when the Russian Museum presented a solo exhibition Grigorieva , listing which was the work of " Paris Cafe " - twin sister painting " restaurant ", sold Vasilyev.

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A criminal case . The investigation lasted three years , then stopped for the lapse , but this year suddenly resumed as directed by the Chief of the Investigative Committee Alexander Bastrykin . The result was the arrest of Elena Basner , who had five days to spend in jail. As happens in such cases , the public is divided into two camps . On the one hand were collectors and art dealers, at different times suffered from transactions with fake paintings and requiring Basner for exemplary punishment . On the other - art dealers and critics , who believe that Elena Basner was random (or random) the victim of some intrigues .
The director of the Russian Museum of Basner hastened to disown . Through its press office museum unveiled the following letter: "Elena Basner Veniaminovna since 2003 does not work in the Russian Museum and never had him expert status , the more the international level. Since 2003, the museum could not connected , and the museum for its actions shall not be liable ... in the Russian Museum in 1985 is a work of Grigoriev titled " Paris Cafe ", and its authenticity is not in doubt . "

Nikita Semenov , lawyer, consultant art, a former investigator SK Moscow police , who represents the interests of Andrey Vasilyev , told the " Profile ": "I 'm ninety percent of that wine Basner will be proved if for whether the case is competent police work . As a consultant Vasilyeva, I can say that
we have evidence and facts about which the general public does not know. Without advertising them, I yet can state the following. First, in the early 1980s, Elena Basner was in the commission of the Russian Museum , which hosted a gift collection of paintings from the collection of Okuneva , among whom was the work Grigorieva " Parisian cafe ." Secondly , a copy sold Vasiliev is an exact reproduction of the painting " Paris Cafe " by its scale . Make a copy of this could not be , not having access to the original, that is, to the same thing that is in the Russian Museum. When this picture was never officially photographed , not printed in catalogs, not exhibited and was not on any exhibition. She lay quietly in the museum , to which few have access . " According to Nikita Semenov , making operation excellent copy , provenance establishment and implementation of forgery could not produce a single person . We are talking about an entire group of persons whose names Elena Basner not call . "I am confident that the investigation will be able to reach those who are hiding behind the famous St. Petersburg art critic " - said the expert .
Recall that this version of the charges , ie version, formed on the basis of testimony Collector Andrey Vasilyev . At the same time close friends and colleagues Elena Basner sure that the charges are based on questionable evidence. So, in February of this year at the St. Petersburg site Art1 an article entitled " Around the" Paris Cafe ", written by a doctor of art , a leading researcher of the newest trends of the Russian Museum Irina Karasik . " I'm friends with Elena Basner almost thirty years , twenty-five of them we worked together in the Russian Museum - writes in this article Irina Karasik . - Of course , I will never believe the charges against her. And no convincing evidence I see . Vasiliev acquisition work not designed , made ​​a deal with Shumakov undocumented orally opinion on the authenticity of paintings based on visual inspection , it was also only verbally . Buyers no hands is not twisted . Vasilyeva first name was not mentioned at all . In the first lawsuit in civil court ( the defendant acted Shumakov ) which Vasiliev posted online , states: " absolute guarantee of authenticity ," he served as scans from " my journal for a few " Burceva and mentioning that "thing comes from some private Leningrad meeting where , in turn, came from a collection of AE Burceva . " From a professional point of view, such guarantees are not tenable . No expertise , according to Andrey Vasilyev , before buying was carried out. I would have understood the strange credulity experienced collector and art dealer , if he knew at the time that the work seen Elena Basner < ... > or another equally authoritative expert and she made ​​him doubt. But it was not . " Irina Karasik believes that Vasiliev just bought a job that he loved and which was invented sympathetic biography . But here's the collector learned that bought them a thing - a fake and that Shumakov told of its existence Elena Basner . " What's the criminal intent ? The fact that the appearance of remarkable , from her perspective , she said Shumakov Grigorieva , and he wanted to buy it ? - Asks Irina Karasik . - The only thing that could happen here , so this is a mistake . " With regard to participation in the reception Basner collection , which included a picture of the " Paris Cafe ", then Irina Karasik explains it this way : " Vasiliev persistently version builds on the availability Elena Basner original intent of any involvement in the conspiracy ; at the same time is a massive "arrival " on the Russian Museum. But where is the proof ? Where only one , very, very precarious : in Russian museum has a similar work (" Paris Cafe ") , originating from the collection Okuneva which Basner , as an employee of the museum, has worked in the 1980s and supposedly could not remember nothing about it , argues . < ... > Could . Thirty years ! Many of us lead such examples from his own practice and less recent years. "
In 1983 Elena Basner really was one of the members of the commission of the Russian Museum , which took a gift collection of paintings and drawings from the collection Okuneva . Of course, if she could see the " Paris Cafe " , but overall the number of all other products and it is very long. The work of such commissions is conducted in a short time. The main objective of the work - to take into account all the works bequeathed to the museum. Meanwhile, the " Paris Cafe " - is tempera on cardboard, because the work was sent to the storage department of drawing and , accordingly, it would only deal with the employees of the department. And Elena Basner worked in the department of painting and drawing of funds was not related .
There is, however , another , quite exotic version of this complicated case . Several years ago, Elena Basner together with his colleague Andrew Krusanov developed a method of relative dating of the paint layer paintings, executed in oil painting . With this method it is possible to recognize a fake, if it is made in the second half of the twentieth century . " The method is based on the fact that after the nuclear tests in 1945 in the environment appeared different isotopes , which did not exist before - explains Andrew Krusanov - During the processing of linseed oil , these isotopes get into the paint and can be detected by appropriate sensors . The absence of these isotopes in a colorful layer means that the paint made ​​before 1945 , and their presence will say the opposite . The development of this method is not just a theory , it is applied in practice since 2007. Obviously, there are many people associated with trade patterns , which is unprofitable existence of such a technique . " However, no direct evidence that Basner someone wanted to commit , at no Krusanov .
Nevertheless, it is obvious that the scandal associated with the name Elena Basner acquired such proportions , not only because we are talking about a famous art critic . The problem is that today, in the antiques market has developed an amazing situation : more than 60%of all the works of famous Russian artists who sold and bought at auction for millions of dollars , are masterly forgeries . And for each of these works has concluded a respected expert , confirming its authenticity .

« I do not want to talk about Basner, - says gallery owner " Triumph " Yemelyan Zahar s , - I just want to ensure that our esteemed experts defined: they are criminals or giving deliberately false imprisonment, or laymen , endlessly confusing originals with fakes . Through their work the shock , people involved in the buying and selling paintings, now perceived at the same level whether pimps , whether with drug dealers trying to sell the customer another " bullshit ."

The same was saiddirectory publisher fakes Vladimir Roschin painting . At the moment, has already published five issues , which are more than thousands of fakes worth about $ 100 million, with Vladimir Roschin notes that while not widely publicized information has a thousand works, the authenticity of which is doubtful .
"I personally know of twelve people who anxiously await what the outcome Elena Basner - said the expert . - If this story will end in favor of Andrey Vasilyev , then I think in the near future the police will be more than a dozen lawsuits filed in Russian art historians, who are engaged in examining the pictures . " According to Vladimir Roshchina , we are talking about a whole mafia that deals with counterfeit paintings of famous Russian artists and their implementation. "It is very sad that some experts are included in this scheme - he regrets . - It's not allegations , the more schemes are becoming more sophisticated . I have repeatedly talked about the experts who buy confirm the authenticity of a fake job. But today known and otherwise. Suppose a man comes into the hands script , for example, Kustodiev. To sell it on the market today , you need an expert opinion . Man goes to the expert , who claims that this is not a picture of the script . What to do? The painting is sold , for example, $ 5 thousand The question is , who buys it ? Probably the one who knows exactly what his hands will be original . As a result, the new holder of Kustodiev goes to the same expert who in this time already gives opinion on the authenticity of the picture. After this painting is sold on the market for $ 5 thousand, and $ 5 million when the first owner of the work sees it, he naturally runs to the expert with the question " How so? " To which the expert replied that he , after issued as a negative examination , went to the library , the museum, and studied the works still found grounds to recognize the ill-fated picture script. And it's not fantasy, it's a fact . " Vladimir Roschin recalled that in the mid-2000s Tretyakov Gallery authoritative expert Vladimir Petrov suddenly abandoned a large number of its findings . "I think he just kick preempted before something serious happens - believes Vladimir Roschin . - In our catalogs fakes a lot of work with the expertise of the Tretyakov Gallery , the Russian Museum , the Grabar Center . But, unfortunately , about these directories do not know everything , and counterfeiting continue to walk around the market. It turns out that the expert opinion really does not mean anything , and makes no warranties owner of the picture . Guarantee today can serve only properly executed purchase documents and seller credibility . "
Case Elena Basner , according to Vladimir Roshchina, may become a precedent , after which many of today's experts will not be able to feel completely safe. " Whatever the story ended with Elena Basner , which I think is actually a cross on her professional reputation. Guess she will not be able to earn money by making expertise - sums Vladimir Roschin . - And I think it will be a lesson for those experts who claim that they are not doctors and have the right to be wrong . So, if they , God forbid , were doctors , we would have all been dead . "

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Because of their striking work, people involved in the buying and selling paintings, now perceived at the same level whether pimps , whether with drug dealers trying to sell the customer another " bullshit ». <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

  I remember once one heir phrase - " How do you sunk to the point that they collect pictures ....... we have the same ones on the market counterfeit "

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The problem is that today, in the antiques market has developed an amazing situation : more than 60%of all the works of famous Russian artists who sold and bought at auction for millions of dollars , are masterly forgeries . And for each of these works has concluded a respected expert , confirming its authenticity .

Again about percentages , this time for some reason only 60 , usually 70-90 . Sure , with expertise and without much smaller fakes on the market. I wonder where and how the monitored in Izmailovo to collapse on the third floor " Salon" ? So , there is no painting , some icons, yes DPI. Can study conducted in national scale ? Can carefully recorded questionable things in closed sales, or on the contrary, at auctions? These figures do not affect the minds of unproven and widely regarded as the absolute truth .
There is confidence that these regular scoring taken from the ceiling figures aimed at discrediting the antique market in order to win over potential customers , the market segment of contemporary art.