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Старый 22.03.2013, 00:24 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2431
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I 'm shocked ... And this
actually takes place ? Where we roll > I mean it > It's sad
What you funny ... You always believe you wrote?
I'm looking your help and see :
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Born in Mariupol in 1979 .
were born in the Greek city and is , like, not a boy.
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After school, graduated Engineering College (Mariupol ), then Kharkov National University of Radio Electronics
Know how to read and write , it is critical to assess the situation should also teach at the university.
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I work at the plant "Azovstal" in the Office Automation
Do not work in the forest , the people in the team.

And all any , sorry , kids ask questions ...
Do you even ask the type who ask questions .
What if it is absolutely inadequate or online razvodilschik .
And you eyes pop - pop , " where we roll , what a nightmare ! ".
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Старый 22.03.2013, 00:36 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2432
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Cyril Syzran, yes , Cyril , roll ! Very fast, and faster and faster . Well, this is my opinion , again.
Written not quite believe > But if it were that simple, it would be boring ! Which-what thoughts I have on any occasion , of course.
Not a boy, but her husband, yes > That's about the team - for me it is a sore point, it will not deploy >
As they say - the mouth of the baby Verbs truth ( that's me in a theme issue of child ), usually these questions are questions. Why not? >
Well it inadequate , but so what? But if the Internet razvodilschik , then I 'm afraid of him .



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Старый 22.03.2013, 06:32 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2433
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Well it inadequate, but so what? But if the Internet razvodilschik, then I'm afraid of him.
Have you seen a natural ability to decipher psihomanipulyatsii.
First of all, when reading messages online discussions should use the knowledge advances psychology.
 For example, causes irritation rudeness internet trolls. In fact it is an impersonal figure for transactional analysis.
  Troll himself so puts on the highest step of hierarchy, acting as a virtual parent to unreasonable child. After the destruction of the regime of religious values, the behavior of another person does not cause rejection. This also applied theater techniques of using abuse, it creates a psychological setting bully perception as superior, not only as a "caring" domineering parent.
    Next troll builds entirely speculative construction omillionivaniya artist, giving examples of "successful" sales by auction. But readers did not know the tax law and accounting. Mechanisms do not represent turnover of art. Moreover, spread their own inventions, for example:
- Do not catch, and will not pay taxes
- Pictures will be sold as the property and not pay taxes ...
Thereby transforming themselves into crime, under the supervision of thieves.
Finally, victims of a troll is a creator's own totalitarian cult of potential victims, never had a steady income from the sale of art products of its own manufacture. Accordingly, they do not represent the organization of the successful production and sales do not represent the price scale, technology investments are not fees. Even believe that this is impossible because they can not even imagine. And go to the troll as a savior.
This is, as I said, not a single artistic display.
For example, the attachment of the artist royalties to the shop-tent caused laughter. A tent-shop in Moscow "is" 1 million - $ 2 million. In the surroundings in half. Of course, 20 years ago, it cost much cheaper, but the direction of investments allowed for the rise in prices over time. It spoke of the great success even in street trading on the opening day. And when I just started talking about the technology of painting by this artist ...
There were also more "" concrete guys "of trolls. For example, in many forums a book designer kopipasta information technology restoration, he also gathered a group of artists under his leadership, but when the locus of his antiquarian-trading interests to identify, put it from several forums .
  A funny story. Certain vendor coats decided to do an art trade. To do this on art forums for a long time just taking lessons on the art of conversation, to mask his complete ignorance. But her desire to unmask troll ...
      All this is well-known struggle between the reseller and the creator - who wins ...
In addition:
http://www.mojbred.com/1358.html
http://emirr.ru/emirr_articles/279-forumnye-trolli.html




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Старый 22.03.2013, 08:02 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2434
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After the destruction of the regime of religious values, the behavior of another person does not cause rejection.
But during the reign of the regime is not destruction of religious values ​​-
"So put himself on the highest rung of the hierarchy, acting as a virtual parent to unreasonable child." - Certainly caused rejection.


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It also used theatrical techniques of using abuse, it creates a psychological setting of perception as chief bully
Theater reception abuse? As a bully boss?

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Next troll builds entirely speculative construction omillionivaniya artist, giving examples of "successful" sales by auction. But readers did not know the tax law and accounting. Mechanisms do not represent turnover of art.
Someone does not know? Traffic is not a mechanism .... Yes, yes, entirely minded "readers."

I try not to read your opus. But for some reason, read this.
And the ending, in fact, from the "investment fees artist in the shop" - a frank delirium. And not figuratively.



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Старый 22.03.2013, 08:25 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2435
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All clear. COP approves the lucrative craft work , the more legitimate when at running criminal artisan may apply to law enforcement agencies . More proof that artistic production should be conducted in two ways.
By the way , souvenirs usually not the pictures and thumbnails , splints , crafts , jewelry , fine casting , etc. And implementation of souvenirs is everywhere and does not need art dealers . And the rate of contributions to trade smaller souvenirs in 3 - 5 times than in galleries.
But, I believe that an artist can try to live and work only at Sotheby's for kings and billionaires, not the middle class and its souvenirs and use services , such as an art dealer.
   This is a known problem. Someone feels Napoleon , and some soldiers. And there is a belief that Napoleon swearing should raise the shelves ...
You think is good , rich, middle - kitsch , and the rest - rest?
Is not it better to go to count?



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Старый 22.03.2013, 09:48 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2436
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Yes, yes, entirely minded "readers ."

I try not to read your opus. But for some reason, read this .
Note that truthful information disrupts the protective reasons and causes for this painful condition. Better not read.

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Do you think that a good , rich, middle - kitsch , and the rest - rest?
Is not it better to go find ?
Somehow it happened, except for the rich. They strive for free and the back door. Therefore, when the rich "for the case."
And to be able to be considered useful when writing boo. report.




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Старый 22.03.2013, 11:42 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2437
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Note that truthful information disrupts the protective reasons and causes for this painful condition. Better not read .
Artoil-A do not read books on psychology. It is dangerous for your brain! Take care of business. Shirokov is not asked for advice : How to organize trade souvenirs. You do not need to show the CHA and the Pushkin Museum. What do you head to fool us ! >



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Старый 22.03.2013, 11:54 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2438
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You have seen a natural ability to decipher psihomanipulyatsii.
First of all, when reading messages online discussions should use the knowledge advances psychology.
For example, causes irritation rudeness internet trolls. In fact it is an impersonal figure for transactional analysis.
Troll himself so puts on the highest step of hierarchy, acting as a virtual parent to unreasonable child. After the destruction of the regime of religious values, the behavior of another person does not cause rejection. This also applied theater techniques of using abuse, it creates a psychological setting bully perception as superior, not only as a "caring" domineering parent.
Next troll builds entirely speculative construction omillionivaniya artist, giving examples of "successful" sales by auction. But readers did not know the tax law and accounting. Mechanisms do not represent turnover of art. Moreover, spread their own inventions, for example:
- Do not catch, and will not pay taxes
- Pictures will be sold as the property and not pay taxes ...
Thereby transforming themselves into crime, under the supervision of thieves.
Finally, victims of a troll is a creator's own totalitarian cult of potential victims, never had a steady income from the sale of art products of its own manufacture. Accordingly, they do not represent the organization of the successful production and sales do not represent the price scale, technology investments are not fees. Even believe that this is impossible because they can not even imagine. And go to the troll as a savior.
This is, as I said, not a single artistic display.
For example, the attachment of the artist royalties to the shop-tent caused laughter. A tent-shop in Moscow "is" 1 million - $ 2 million. In the surroundings in half. Of course, 20 years ago, it cost much cheaper, but the direction of investments allowed for the rise in prices over time. It spoke of the great success even in street trading on the opening day. And when I just started talking about the technology of painting by this artist ...
There were also more "" concrete guys "of trolls. For example, in many forums a book designer kopipasta information technology restoration, he also gathered a group of artists under his leadership, but when the locus of his antiquarian-trading interests to identify, put it from several forums .
A funny story. Certain vendor coats decided to do an art trade. To do this on art forums for a long time just taking lessons on the art of conversation, to mask his complete ignorance. But her desire to unmask troll ...
All this is well-known struggle between the reseller and the creator - who wins ...
Uh ... So what? Although a grain of truth thanks >



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Старый 22.03.2013, 12:11 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2439
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Artoil-A do not read books on psychology. It is dangerous for your brain! Take care of business. Shirokov is not asked for advice: How to organize trade souvenirs. You do not need to show the CHA and the Pushkin Museum. What do you head to fool us! >
I worked for 10 years with the psychologists in the development of man-machine interface. Even graduated a couple of graduate schools in the capital. My brain ottrenirovany. Thank you for your attention to my level of education. I can even understand you, even what you think, but you can not put into words.
  As for open exhibitions. States that, for a commercial artist, they are extremely dangerous. Allowed only exhibition sales. By the way, you know what a consignment contract?
Usually a commercial gallery communicates with potential customers on the Internet, and they buy commercial operation. In this case, the network picture picture will not be published. Picture, usually once or purchased or will be used for manipulation.
By the way, as an artist uses certain measures that work easy way to slaydirovalas.

For just mazilok - even participate, where they want, still will not buy it.
Accordingly, do not need any exhibition in the CHA or the Pushkin Museum.




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Старый 22.03.2013, 12:31 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2440
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I have worked for over 10 years with the psychologists in the development of man-machine interface.
Even graduated a couple of graduate schools in the capital.
My brain ottrenirovany.
And mind and not say.
Yes you have read out!
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