"Black Square" by Malevich: who feels that, looking at this picture

[Ylot]

Сообщение от Konstantin

I beg you not to digress from the topic.

Konstantin - You are wrong!

Malevich, with Vera Mukhina, the authors of the Russian character - "thick glasses", and you removed the image of the artist.
Zachemmm ....???

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Сообщение от Fed

And if someone does dare to read the entire opus of a long and check everything, even anti-scientific povyskakivaet ...

Have you read and look!


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NATA NOVA

That's always first need to start from the beginning!

Can first start with the end!

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Сообщение от Konstantin

I beg you not to digress from the topic.

I will try

It's amazing to read so verbose, multi-and cumbersome description of the merits of which completely rejects all these piles

[Fed]

Сообщение от Ylot

Have you read and look!

Not interested. Moreover, that "literacy classes number 1" Nate Nove in his book you bring long quotations Malevich, who do not prove anything, but simply serve as a reflection of his views.
    He has a picture of pozanyatnee before and after. And he himself, after a 50-podzabrosil Suprematism, tired sight.

[Ylot]

Сообщение от Fed

Not interested. Moreover, that "literacy classes number 1" Nate Nove in his book you bring long quotations Malevich, who do not prove anything, but simply serve as a reflection of his views.
    He has a picture of pozanyatnee before and after. And he himself, after a 50-podzabrosil Suprematism, tired of shows.

Amazing! As people, having enough decent education, knowledge and artistic heritage, at the end of the twentieth century could just talk about the phenomenon of primitive art in the face of Malevich and his work, at a time when the world community of artists recognized his services for a long time. Most of them enjoy his achievements in his work. Those who disregard knowledge of his theories never become artists, and the "geeks" - native artistic knowledge (art)!
You can make trouble. Why, because we loan "Ivanov, Petrov, Sidorov, (Altamira cave paintings), they are good artists. Persons in their portraits as vivid as in the photo. This view reminds me of images from the "madhouse" - Napoleon, Pushkin and Stalin. " Anyone can call himself anything but lacking match. Portraits write and write many, but few have written something like "Gioconda" by Leonardo da Vinci. Why? Because they do not possess those skills, which he owned. Because they do not possess the knowledge, which was filled with the consciousness of Leonardo. Because poorly studied, and the knowledge acquired can not be used. Because the "geeks" zabaltyvayut their minds. Moreover, if it is born an artist who owns all of the above, not many people will pay attention to it. Retro - it's cute, it's good, but it does not move the art forward. It improves (polishes, polish or scratch) already achieved. Does not invent anything new, does not develop a creative idea.
Desire to escape from the framework of foreign ideas, should be welcomed. Among the inhabitants, which include everyone who does not understand "the KGB", more often those who are swans on the bed with canopy, gives a real emotional and aesthetic pleasure. They believe that the aesthetics of this growing their spiritual significance.
Are encouraged to put the task of the artist. I am confident that you will be able to pose the problem that has long someone has decided, and so do "Losers" are written off homework for more than a clever fellow.
After this discussion, for me personally, it becomes clear that my opponents too deep "digging." And this is his hobby got through (ignore) the "noble layer. I want to return your consciousness to the passage of his own quotes:
"... All this has become absolute, the axiom that does not require any proof, knowing with whom it is impossible not to agree, in which shame and doubt is simply indecent to discuss."
Dear theorists! Malevich in his life made one single picture. All the rest of his work, creative pursuits, the processes of knowledge (education), imitation, copying, teaching activities, literary hobbies, socializing - all this is readily available materials, laboratory material for the realization of their creative thoughts. Arbitrarily, you can build your verbiage about "KGB" to try to make their work significantly, but your findings do not show the merits of Malevich. Each of the reasons you mentioned solves one of the tasks that ultimately an artist, a consciousness, realized in the "black box».

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Сообщение от Ylot

As noted scholar of Malevich, AS Shatskikh: -
"K" Black Square "Malevich came through philosophical understanding of the world ....
When there was a black rectangle, he could neither eat nor sleep for a week. Such an important event was the painting in his work.
He went to her for many years. It was the culmination of his work, his synthesis of painting, sculpture, decorative arts, and his philosophical speculations ».

Ylot, you cite "the researcher works by Malevich, Alexander S. Shatskih". Could you clarify what kind of article Alexandra Semyonovna taken this quote? I find it hard to imagine that it was written by her.

[Fed]

Сообщение от Ylot

Malevich in his life made one single picture

And that was not the original, although the ideas and breakthroughs by other artists, he embodied perfectly.
But the main thing - plenty of bells and whistles iskustvovedcheskogo fog around quite seriously. And then all of a masterpiece of all time.

It is a pity that Alphonse Allais was a humorist, an artist, not the tragedian. Therefore, died 10 years before the paintings of Malevich is not great and terrible, and "eccentric and absurdist, creating:
1. The Battle of Blacks in a cave deep in the night "(1893).
2 "First Communion girls suffering from chlorosis in the snowy season" (1893).
3. "Harvesting tomatoes on the Red Sea apoplectic Cardinals (1894g.).
Exhibited in the gallery Vivien "untied Arts» («les Arts Incohérents»).
Exhibited to a person with a meaningful and that would now be hanging in the Louvre for permanent storage.

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Сообщение от Fed

And that was not the original, although the ideas and breakthroughs by other artists, he embodied perfectly.
But the main thing - plenty of bells and whistles iskustvovedcheskogo fog around quite seriously. And then all of a masterpiece of all time.

It is a pity that Alphonse Allais was a humorist, an artist, not the tragedian. Therefore, died 10 years before the paintings of Malevich is not great and terrible, and "eccentric and absurdist, creating:
1. The Battle of Blacks in a cave deep in the night "(1893).
2 "First Communion girls suffering from chlorosis in the snowy season" (1893).
3. "Harvesting tomatoes on the Red Sea apoplectic Cardinals (1894g.).
Exhibited in the gallery Vivien "untied Arts» («les Arts Incohérents»).
Exhibited to a person with a meaningful and that would now be hanging in the Louvre for permanent storage.

That's it, that he died "an eccentric and absurdist." Because all of his "eccentric" and "absurdist" rectangles did his ancestor, or at least a precursor of Suprematism.

[Fed]

Сообщение от Tiutchev; 1473611"

Ylot, you cite "the researcher works by Malevich, Alexander S. Shatskih". Could you clarify what kind of article Alexandra Semyonovna taken this quote? I find it hard to imagine that it was written by her.

This should be clarified with the author of this article signed by Anatoly Khodorkovsky. This article are imprinted and imprinted on all possible forums and blogs on the Internet. From there he took her Ylot.

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Сообщение от Tiutchev

did his ancestor, or at least a precursor of Suprematism.

Clearly, since the term coined Malevich.
Roger Fry coined "Post-Impressionism," but that he became the founder of Van Gogh.

[Ylot]

=Fed
This should be clarified with the author of this article signed by Anatoly Khodorkovsky. This article are imprinted and imprinted on all possible forums and blogs on the Internet. From there he took her Ylot.

I'll imprint it in all the forums where it comes to understanding the "KGB". ... While everyone will understand! Will close the "pasta factory and spread (and re-classified) employees.

Ylot, it is He

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=Tiutchev
Ylot, you cite "the researcher works by Malevich, Alexander S. Shatskih". Could you clarify what kind of article Alexandra Semyonovna taken this quote? I find it hard to imagine that it was written by her.

Somewhere in here! If you remember precisely where - together!

Selected publications


Sowjetische Malerei aus den Karpaten. Leipzig: VEB E. A. Seemann, 1976.

Marina Telepneva. Album. Moscow: Soviet Artist, 1977. Sarabyanov D. Shatskih A. Kazimir Malevich. Painting. Theory. MA: Art, 1993.

Kazimir Malevich. "Laziness as the real truth of humanity Va. With an article by F. Ingold Rehabilitation idle-STI. Introduction, preparation of the text, notes by S. Shatskih. MM: Gilea, 1994.

Kazimir Malevich. Collected Works. Volume 1. Works 1913-1929. General editing, drafting, introduction, preparation of texts, commentaries and notes by S. Shatskih. MM: "Gilea, 1995. (Reviews: Andrei Kovalev. Vyyavitel academicism. Kazimir Malevich. Collected works in 5 volumes. Volume 1. M. Gilea //Today, Moscow, 1995, May 20, Saturday, p.14; Rumyantseva Olga. Malevitch dans le texte //Journal des Art, Paris, 1995, no 17, september)

Kazimir Malevich. M.: Word, 1996. (Review: Vyacheslav Kuritsyn. Black square above the beet field, "Book Review" Ex libris NG (Nezavisimaya Gazeta) "N 1 (1), January 23, 1997, p.5)

Kazimir Malevich. Collected Works. Volume 2.

Scientific edition of AS Shatskikh. (Rets.: Kovalev collected works of Kasimir Malevich, Volume 2. Gilea /Evening Moscow, Moscow, 1998, N 16, June 22 - July 5, p.60)

Unknown Declaration of Kazimir Malevich /Supremus, 1992, N 1 (blue-yellow).

Malevich and Film //The Burlington Magazine, London, 1993, July, p.470-478 (translated into Spanish and published in a collection of the University of Havana, Cuba, in 1994)

Kazimir Malevic (1878-1935). La vita e le opere //Kazimir Malevic una retrospettiva. Firenze, Pallazzo Medici-Riccardi, 24.9 - 5.12 1993. Firenze: Artificio Edizioni srl, 1993. P.245-261. Also in this directory have been 52 comments posted essays about the paintings of Malevich (all except NN 6, 18, 30, 31, 35, 36, 59, 60, 61).

Philosophical Architect Kazimir Malevich. Lecture-valued at Yale University and University of Southern California, my aunt, USA (abridged and revised version) //"De Visu", Moscow, 1994, N 11, s.Z9-45.

Rising Czar //ArtNews, New York, 1998, September, p.56. How was "Black Square"? //The problem of copying in European art. Materials Science Conference, 8-10 December 1997, Russian Academy of Arts. M., 1998, s.210-215

 

=Tiutchev
That's it, that he died "an eccentric and absurdist." Because all of his "eccentric" and "absurdist" rectangles did his ancestor, or at least a precursor of Suprematism.

You are absolutely ruthless!

Several paintings of Alphonse Allais (1854-1905)

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Apoplekcicheskie cardinals collect tomatoes at the Red Sea, 1882,

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Group of drunks in a fog

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Icteric Asians who drink aniseed aperitif in a wheat field

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Fight Night blacks in the basement

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Stupefied young recruits, the first time seeing a blue Mediterranean Sea, 1887

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First Communion anemic girls in snow

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Pimps, drinking absinthe lying on the grass

In Alphonse Allais and Malevich, there were different goals and objectives, and different ways to implement them.

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[Тютчев]

Сообщение от Fed

Clearly, because the term coined Malevich.
Roger Fry coined "Post-Impressionism," but that he became the ancestor of the Van Gogh.

Roger Fry did not invent "Post-Impressionism, and only introduced the term in everyday life. But Malevich not just coined the term "Suprematism", but also filled it full content. Here's how to write about this Alexandra Shatskih:
"The magnitude of the gift as Malevich affected not only in generating pulses: suprematic projects in all areas of artistic and theoretical work, from ornament to philosophy, received full expression in his own work."

The difference is huge!