How to invest USD 3000-10000

[Кирилл Сызранский]

[QUOTE="ANATOLY;3327141"]June 2014 the painting was sold Zvereva for 510 thousand in order to recapture money (not money), you need to sell it for 1 mlnr@
"Landscape. Trees. Nikolina Gora" 1968 was sold at auction AI No. 32, June 13, and a dollar that day was worth, let me remind you, 34,32 rubles, and the price of this lot in dollars then looked like this: 510 000 + 10% : 34,32 = 16 346. Now this price doubled, but at the end of the second month of the next year the price will be under 2 million, but it ruble price, and will continue to grow along with the dollar/ruble.
Where all this will stop and when is the question, but it is already clear that selling in this period, even for the money this thing will be problematic.

I post this phrase
[QUOTE="ANATOLY;3324581"]I'd love to know the weather forecast for 2015 God@
did a little analysis of the situation at public auction, and on the basis of his gave his vision of the situation on our market next year.
But, as I thought, the picture appeared again phrases about Smoking policy here and I decided, as said Vladimir, "not much deviate from the topic, this post didn't post.
At the end of rounds, all grown up and they need to understand how and where to invest my own money.
13.06.2014

[artcol]

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Where all this will stop and when is the question, but it is already clear that selling in this period, even for the money this thing will be problematic.

To make money on art is not easy, but to preserve? What are the options? The estate? The shares? Gold?

However, are much more serious changes. The level of the forum, unfortunately, it is not possible to discuss this issue, so the crisis in this area will come suddenly, and who it will be ready? Those who play on lower (in particular, Syzran) - they will still pipets. And the rest need to think about how to live.

[ANATOLY]

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Those who play on the decrease (in particular, Syzran)

In anything he is not playing, and gives a real assessment of the market. Well, doesn't cost as much today as it was yesterday, as if not wanting to sellers. What to earn today-not as strange, if not take away our most honest government, on the currency. Today, even Sberbank and Rosselkhozbank give the currency of 6.5% per annum, according to my forecasts, real estate, coins, paintings and much more sharply (Dol.) go to the bottom. However, there is a chance he who has the money to buy high quality works of famous artists at a very reasonable price, but these investments will benefit in the future naslednichki.

[artcol]

[QUOTE=ANATOLY;3327701]into anything he is not playing, and gives a real assessment of the market. Well, doesn't cost as much today as it was yesterday, as if this is not wanted Prodavam@
Will... You know? Where, let me ask?

[ANATOLY]

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Will... You know? Where, let me ask?

It's simple, it's not guesswork, and if you are professionally engaged in economic forecasts, gather information not only what is happening in the country and in the world. The fall in oil prices was a surprise only for our government, but not for professionals. Experts knew that the United States in 2008 increased oil production by 70%, and in 2013 the growth rate was 13.5% . And if recently the USA was extracted at day 7 million barrels, by the end of 2014 plan 12 million barrels. A lot of mind you need to understand what will happen to the price or is it a secret information? To understand what will happen in the economy in the near future, it is necessary to watch just for some indicators and aware of their dependence. The fall in oil prices will slow down its prey, and also will lead to falling prices and gas. The decrease in the number of production machines will lead to a drop in production at metallurgical and other plants. So on the chain. So, take the statistics and do not need professors in Economics - all will become clear. There is no crisis, it will just take the place in the world in accordance with their productive forces and relations of production. And what will happen to the art market? Unless it exists separately from the economy?

[Кирилл Сызранский]

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However, there is a chance he who has the money to buy high quality works of famous artists at a very reasonable price, but these investments will benefit in the future naslednichki.

Yes, some collectors will have a bit to buy, as You said, "for complementing the collections", but this, of course, will not make the weather - will buy from their colleagues or through their dealers, quiet and a "domestic" prices, the overall situation on the art market it will not vibrate even ripples on the surface will not appear.
What about investors, they will definitely lose interest in fine art and collecting in General, rather, they have this interest is lost, they now have another head full of just the market has not yet fully comprehended.
Yes, during the consumer boom of the last years, investors have become collectors - well, che, showed them the schedule of prices, jabbed a finger in the curve line growth and they bought. And what was the difference, how much to pay, if tomorrow the work will still cost ten times more.
But now if the dealer says: buy, tomorrow the work will cost more, is, to put it mildly, lie.

[artcol]

Сообщение от Кирилл Сызранский

But now many of them understood that if the dealer says: buy, tomorrow the work will cost more, is, to put it mildly, lie.

Will be cheaper, so You understand?

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if you are professionally engaged in economic forecasts,

It is You who? About yourself?

[mihailovoh]

ANATOLY
O. You cool.
The difference between this crisis in the fall of the purchasing power of the population and for a long time.Before the devaluation of the ruble was quickly offset by the increase in C\p, and so on.now this will not happen from oil and sanctions..
Cheaper in dollars or more in rubles not that important .if demand drops by orders of magnitude.all one illiquid asset.
PS the Answer is simple .(the period of pereformatirovala).all fall in the price in dollars.-EUR.A year or two will buy only that.what is needed today.It's very similar .that time will start to fall Dol euros.and the markets will find another point of reference for equivalent money and their market value..

[Pavel]

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it's simple, it's not guesswork, and if you are professionally engaged in economic forecasts, gather information not only what is happening in the country and in the world. The fall in oil prices was a surprise only for our government, but not for professionals. Experts knew that the United States in 2008 increased oil production by 70%, and in 2013 the growth rate was 13.5% . And if recently the USA was extracted at day 7 million barrels, by the end of 2014 plan 12 million barrels. A lot of mind you need to understand what will happen to the price or is it a secret information? To understand what will happen in the economy in the near future, it is necessary to watch just for some indicators and aware of their dependence. The fall in oil prices will slow down its prey, and also will lead to falling prices and gas. The decrease in the number of production machines will lead to a drop in production at metallurgical and other plants. So on the chain. So, take the statistics and do not need professors in Economics - all will become clear. There is no crisis, it will just take the place in the world in accordance with their productive forces and relations of production. And what will happen to the art market? Unless it exists separately from the economy?

Why all this logomotion? I asked to see your collection. Or part of it, but best of all.
Here , as you probably noticed, the oil here nobody sells and prices do not depend on it.

[ANATOLY]

Cyril Syzran, Totally agree with You. You articulated what will happen on the art market not so in the next year or two, and maybe more.