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Старый 23.02.2010, 13:11 Язык оригинала: Русский       #211
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noart, now you can be their creations for examination, inspection file?
 (who knows what? write a verse "I remember a wonderful moment" .. and then it turns out. is Pushkin!)



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Старый 23.02.2010, 14:04 Язык оригинала: Русский       #212
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noart, now you can be their creations for examination, inspection file?
 (who knows what? write a verse "I remember a wonderful moment" .. and then it turns out. is Pushkin!)
Oh no, here it is not the point. It is easy to show that the bulk of our way to say modern art - consists of replicas. On the Ukrainian modern, generally will not write - there is very often a parody

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noart, now you can be their creations for examination, inspection file?
 (who knows what? write a verse "I remember a wonderful moment" .. and then it turns out. is Pushkin!)
Today, almost red-letter day in the calendar, comes the turn of the other relics of communist propaganda - paintings leninopistsa-drummer, guardian of the purity of "socialist realism", the President of the Academy of Arts of the USSR, twice winner of the Stalin Prize, repeated the Order, Vladimir Serov (not to be confused with the author of "Girl with Peaches "Valentin Serov!)" Walkers with Lenin. This textbook work copyright exists in two incarnations: one headed straight to the Tretyakov Gallery, the other - in the Central Lenin Museum. But these options is interesting to compare with each other. Where it was interesting to discover that the plot, and mise en scene (in a somewhat simplified form), and color, and details awarded the Stalin Prize paintings of Vladimir Aleksandrovich borrowed from the Hungarian master brush Károly Kernshtoka whose job oil "Agitator" was written more than half a century before Serov and works for two decades before the October Revolution .

And then there Nicos - well, the all clear ((())))
Even not to cling theme Ukrainians - Chichkan - and all meshpuhi - there is generally complete darkness * replica *
While many of these have sinned - not gone from this and Mikelyadzhelo etc. ((
But I am a specialist in remarks in photography, painting and simple, that falls under the arm.


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Well, this is generally brutal monster. Steals everything that falls under the hand makes it all the time.



And the problem is not in the oversight of managers, forgetting to settle the issue with the owners of rights to the photograph, looking at who worked as an artist. The trick is that the method itself is invited to work on a poster Shepard Fairy is precisely in the fact that he copied someone else, and without specifying the primary source, gives the resulting outcome for their own achievement.
However, to maintain secrecy is not always possible. For example, customers of American retail chain Wall-Mart had stopped the administration of an outcry and forced to withdraw from sale a line of T-shirts Fairy: in placing on them the figure they are easily recognized emblem of the fascist, the SS Death's Head:




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Старый 23.02.2010, 21:12 Язык оригинала: Русский       #213
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Talking plagiarism as a disease)))

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noart, now you can be their creations for examination, inspection file?
 (who knows what? write a verse "I remember a wonderful moment" .. and then it turns out. is Pushkin!)
Today, almost red-letter day in the calendar, comes the turn of the other relics of communist propaganda - paintings leninopistsa-drummer, guardian of the purity of "socialist realism", the President of the Academy of Arts of the USSR, twice winner of the Stalin Prize, repeated the Order, Vladimir Serov (not to be confused with the author of "Girl with Peaches "Valentin Serov!)" Walkers with Lenin. This textbook work copyright exists in two incarnations: one headed straight to the Tretyakov Gallery, the other - in the Central Lenin Museum. But these options is interesting to compare with each other. Where it was interesting to discover that the plot, and mise en scene (in a somewhat simplified form), and color, and details awarded the Stalin Prize paintings of Vladimir Aleksandrovich borrowed from the Hungarian master brush Károly Kernshtoka whose job oil "Agitator" was written more than half a century before Serov and works for two decades before the October Revolution .

And then there Nicos - well, the all clear ((())))
Even not to cling theme Ukrainians - Chichkan - and all meshpuhi - there is generally complete darkness * replica *
Although many of these have sinned - not gone from this and Mikelyadzhelo and TD ((
But I am a specialist in remarks in photography, painting and simple, that falls under the arm.
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Старый 23.02.2010, 21:17 Язык оригинала: Русский       #214
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Well, this is generally brutal monster. Steals everything that falls under the hand makes it all the time.



And the problem is not in the oversight of managers, forgetting to settle the issue with the owners of rights to the photograph, looking at who worked as an artist. The trick is that the method itself is invited to work on a poster Shepard Fairy is precisely in the fact that he copied someone else, and without specifying the primary source, gives the resulting outcome for their own achievement.
However, to maintain secrecy is not always possible. For example, customers of American retail chain Wall-Mart had stopped the administration of an outcry and forced to withdraw from sale a line of T-shirts Fairy: in placing on them the figure they are easily recognized emblem of the fascist, the SS Death's Head:
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Старый 23.02.2010, 21:27 Язык оригинала: Русский       #215
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noart, I find it strange. but (unfortunately) to plagiarism (and lies) has ceased Seems applies to чаму something morally unscrupulous. Take Hirst (up vashngo visit of the site was a stormy debate on the subject, almost all of its products-plagiarism ..
Or another "Maitre" - (name dropped), which is a huge portrait of Che portrayed entirely deflated with the famous photos (photographer, it seems still alive!)
Alas, this is the reality of our amoralgogo time. But everyone has a choice .. (among others)



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Now fairly widespread borrowing pictures. For example, in street dell'arte. Imagine this guy off the street who could not as we in the "bad" shovels to attend art school and get the basics of drawing human figures. They take the well-known images of pop icons, make stencils on them and translate into a wall (plane), but they change the content of what either base or the details of this and express their attitude to what is happening. Prior to this, with some 80's, the West was established direction Appropriatsionizm (Appropriation art). For example, the artists Richard Prince, Sherrie Lenine. Originals, such as clippings, photos from newspapers they used in their collages. And even earlier, in 1919, Duchamp pririsoval on the postcard image of the Mona Lisa with mustache and beard. It was his protest. As for parodies. In parodies created by the displacement of the context and exact repetition of particular parodied works become ridiculous.



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Старый 23.02.2010, 22:38 Язык оригинала: Русский       #217
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noart, I find it strange. but (unfortunately) to plagiarism (and lies) has ceased Seems applies to чаму something morally unscrupulous. Take Hirst (up vashngo visit of the site was a stormy debate on the subject, almost all of its products-plagiarism ..
Or another "Maitre" - (name dropped), which is a huge portrait of Che portrayed entirely deflated with the famous photos (photographer, it seems still alive!)
Alas, this is the reality of our amoralgogo time. But everyone has a choice .. (among others)
It seems Uorhal)))
Yes you are right that there is no conscience, no decency for those who do. By and large, this sin because the bulk of artists - sculptors - photos - designers. There is a great artistic heritage - and many do not want to dull wits, stealing other people's ideas. But there is another part of the people - not when it is not going to borrow ideas from others, and make 1000%on his own. This honor and praise. You can imagine how what you bastard, scour the Internet - and then gives his regular (a masterpiece). Brad)) But just as not everyone is prolazit and they are taken to clean water. The phenomenon of Hurst only one, he was at the right time at the right time. Cut the fish and its vtulil Satchi - that is, in turn, found Pinchuk and went and went. What would you have been known - Hurst does not what he - only supposedly invents)) But again, this profanation, which climbs every blunt oligarchs. But Hirst is not the actual sales, and if so, it buys Viktor Mikhailovich - they became friends and now a British mediocrity came sweet olive, which until the end of his life will not let this necrophilia starve.
But there are those who create their Reale. Take the Benksi * sitting on his work, many (stars of conceptual art), Russia and Ukraine.
Writing can be a long time. But I can see *- not all down to this, and make his own original art. Also examples of mass, not really describe all possible. Not long ago there ganged up on me with the connoisseurs of Odessa - because I'm not entirely flattering to the drivers commented on the part of the artist's number one in Ukraine - Oksana Mas)))) Well, if for them it was number one for me just an upstart workable - it is everywhere, and quick and sells 50 paintings a year - how many manufactures do not know, but the main catch for a horror that I'm here so steep and my aunt is Juventus - and many of the drum of Regina who is the artistic part is important - but there is a complete 0 ***.
People often want to see what they want to see and not in a position to objectively assess. At this includes many factors.
Come on, what to write here. With this gang Mazilu laugh around the world, but they poked us their lists of exhibitions and attendance at Sotheby's and Phillips))))


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is now fairly widespread borrowing pictures. For example, in street dell'arte. Imagine this guy off the street who could not as we in the "bad" shovels to attend art school and get the basics of drawing human figures. They take the well-known images of pop icons, make stencils on them and translate into a wall (plane), but they change the content of what either base or the details of this and express their attitude to what is happening. Prior to this, with some 80's, the West was established direction Appropriatsionizm (Appropriation art). For example, the artists Richard Prince, Sherrie Lenine. Originals, such as clippings, photos from newspapers they used in their collages. And even earlier, in 1919, Duchamp pririsoval on the postcard image of the Mona Lisa with mustache and beard. It was his protest. As for parodies. In parodies created by the displacement of the context and exact repetition of particular parodied works become ridiculous.
Parody - rocks, have a big difference. It is very important, the context in which this has been portrayed. But often noticed an interesting author and rip off all his idea. This is called secondary - but not when she had no success. Benksi doing graffiti - nopochemu he is not who is not inspired -)))
Here, for example, a parody ... .. And this is allowed in all senses. But the idea - it is wholly owned by this photographer.
In modern art is very important original idea - if it does not exist or is taken from another - it's just sekondhend
So just an example




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is now fairly widespread borrowing pictures. For example, in street dell'arte. Imagine this guy off the street who could not as we in the "bad" shovels to attend art school and get the basics of drawing human figures. They take the well-known images of pop icons, make stencils on them and translate into a wall (plane), but they change the content of what either base or the details of this and express their attitude to what is happening. Prior to this, with some 80's, the West was established direction Appropriatsionizm (Appropriation art). For example, the artists Richard Prince, Sherrie Lenine. Originals, such as clippings, photos from newspapers they used in their collages. And even earlier, in 1919, Duchamp pririsoval on the postcard image of the Mona Lisa with mustache and beard. It was his protest. As for parodies. In parodies created by the displacement of the context and exact repetition of particular parodied works become ridiculous.
Parody - rocks, have a big difference. It is very important, the context in which this has been portrayed. But often noticed an interesting author and rip off all his idea. This is called secondary - but not when she had no success. Benksi doing graffiti - nopochemu he is not who is not inspired -)))
Here, for example, a parody ... .. And this is allowed in all senses. But the idea - it is wholly owned by this photographer.
"In modern art is very important original idea - if it does not exist or is taken from another - it's just sekondhend
So just an example
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Take the Benksi
How I adore you! (My love)

A parody of the Queen did not catch up .. (Sorry) (In my very stupid)



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No, no he-can restore the name, but delve need (young)

How I adore you! (My love)

A parody of the Queen did not catch up .. (Sorry) (In my very stupid)
here is not the case.



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