St. Petersburg artists sue Sergei Bugaev (Afrika)

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от Magnolia ; 2743951 "

And this is not the only son of a gun

Thank you , Magnolia , these artists are setting an example ... Until now, in an artistic environment was somehow made ​​to apply to the court for the person with whom had only just been on friendly terms ... And ignorance of the law as well ... I use it those whom you call prohindeev ... But today, wolf ears of a spectacular skins " advocates of free art " are starting to come out ...

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Сообщение от Fed; 2743401 "

Let's start with the fact that in 1991, Timur Novikov and Sergei Bugaev donated to the Russian museum about 100 works of the " New Artists" to

I remember talking about this ... Formed the " New Currents " . Everyone who got into this " donation " to be happy, because they fell into the collection of the Russian Museum , and their status as artists rose sharply , and in different "home" and "friendly " collections they were already ...

[манна]

Сообщение от Fed; 2743631 "

What is a collector wants to risk publicly showing their treasures , if the exhibition can reach the author , his heirs , other candidates and demand picture back . "

When I saw the subject, about the same thought occurred to me . But as they say , have only themselves to blame . Is not accepted , we take the " notes" from the artists. Dealers generally keep quiet about .. how to understand which of them " africa " , and who is not .. and you can not get a time, though asking , silent as guerrillas from the picture .

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от Fed; 2743631 "

What is a collector wants to risk publicly showing their treasures , if the exhibition can reach the author , his heirs , other candidates and demand picture back . "

That is, Now everything should be based on the "presumption " of dishonesty ? Website that it is now necessary to provide such a scoundrel , who sell or donate , throw blame ? Not to mention, why would he do : after all, in which case he will not be able to sell anything , but about the gifts at all - do not want to give a picture - do not give , do not give ...
" The presumption of innocence ," as you can see, there are bad guys , until they prove otherwise ...
So that relatives must be , for example, clearly explain why, for example , when the author has not announced the loss of life ....

[манна]

Сообщение от K-Maler; 2744131 "

Ie Now everything should be based on the "presumption " of dishonesty ? Website that it is now necessary to provide such a scoundrel , who sell or donate , throw blame ? Not to mention, why would he do : after all, in which case he will not be able to sell anything , but about the gifts at all - do not want to give a picture - do not give , do not give ...

So why exaggerate ? <! - ~ 3 ~ -> It should be based not on the "presumption " dishonesty authors or their heirs, and of the "presumption " - everything in life that happens ... certificate gallery, the artist , the auction payment system or receipt of any intermediary would be superfluous .

[Fed]

Сообщение от K-Maler; 2744131 "

relatives must be , for example, clearly explain why, for example , when the author has not announced the loss of life .

And artists who asks Bugaev picture , a quarter century has not declared " missing " . And now , have decided it's time.

Although Bugaev not hiding :

"In 2005, the Tretyakov Gallery as a special project of the 1st Moscow Biennale was an exhibition of " accomplices " , where the collection was composed by Sergei Bugaev section on " New Artist . " In the catalog of the exhibition is the work claimants, although there is no direct evidence the fact that they come from the collection Bugaev.

In 2010, the belt held a large exhibition of the "New Artists" , which was conceived back in 1991. It was called " Brushstroke ". The texts explicitly states that collected Bugaev "New Artists" and gave part of his collection to the Russian Museum . The album , released for the exhibition , for example, we find: Oleg Maslov , " hand holding a cigarette ," 1980 . Collection Sergei Bugaev. Or Eugene Kozlov . Portrait of George Guryanova . Collection Sergei Bugaev. The latter work is reproduced in the exhibition catalog , " ACCA : the latest generation of the Leningrad avant-garde ."

In general, not very clear why artists are not laid claim to their works before.

Of course, in both cases, the four artists in the show could not go, do not read books about their work and do not know. However, sources associated with the art market claim to authorship does not automatically recognize the right of property. "

[Магнолия]

Сообщение от Fed

So it is not clear why artists are not laid claim to their works before.

They satisfied the process of promotion.

[Ирина Ивановна]

Сообщение от Fed

So the artists who asks Bugaev painting , a quarter century has not declared " missing " . And now , have decided it's time.

And cleverly decided , waiting for a big part of pop up stuck works , not just one - two .

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Сообщение от Magnolia

They satisfy the unwind .

Already 22 pages threads so far nobody has been able to explain how to lie more than 20 years in rolls in the attic pictures contributed to the process of promotion. Can you work out?


http://www.fontanka.ru/2013/08/27/084/

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Сообщение от Oleg Nazarov

Also , not all who deceived the son of a gun and threw it filed lawsuits .

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Those authors whose works are on display at the exhibition Bugaev "Assa " and in the accompanying catalog , should be aware that in three years it will probably be difficult to demand back their work in connection with the expiration of the statute of limitations. Not giving suits , they actually legalize their right to their legitimate work. You need to join in, because the process has already started , which is the experience of artists from human rights activists in this case accumulated , and at this business finance is much cheaper than then alone. Also, if they are joined by colleagues on the situation , of course, it will have moral support.

[Магнолия]

Сообщение от Irina ; 2753461 "

Also, if they are joined by colleagues on the situation , of course, it will have moral support .

Colleagues on the situation is, there is no evidence to the court . Hint colleagues on the situation : it is necessary in the lawsuit to file a request for the hearing of witnesses, and depending on the testimony of witnesses in the case entered the third parties on the side of the plaintiffs.

[Fed]

Сообщение от Irina ; 2753461 "

Already 22 pages threads so far nobody has been able to explain how to lie more than 20 years in rolls in the attic pictures contributed to the process of promotion .

Сообщение от Fed; 2744221 "

Although Bugaev not hiding :

"In 2005, the Tretyakov Gallery as a special project of the 1st Moscow Biennale was an exhibition of " accomplices " , where the collection was composed by Sergei Bugaev section on " New Artist . " In the catalog of the exhibition is the work claimants, although there is no direct evidence the fact that they come from the collection Bugaev.

In 2010, the belt held a large exhibition of the "New Artists" , which was conceived back in 1991. It was called " Brushstroke ". The texts explicitly states that collected Bugaev "New Artists » , and gave part of his collection to the Russian Museum . The album , released for the exhibition , for example, we find: Oleg Maslov , " hand holding a cigarette ," 1980 - is Collection Sergei Bugaev. Or Eugene Kozlov . Portrait of George Guryanova . Collection Sergei Bugaev. The latter work is reproduced in the exhibition catalog , " ACCA : the latest generation of the Leningrad avant-garde ».

It can be assumed that the timing and the Tretyakov , with the directories were not the only stages .
While it may be that they want the Louvre and Orsay ...

By the way , as presented , or not? And how much?

[Ирина Ивановна]

Сообщение от Magnolia

Hint colleagues on the situation : it is necessary in the lawsuit to file a request for the hearing of witnesses ,.

This has long been done at the last meeting of the court.

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Сообщение от Fed

One can assume that , the Tretyakov Museum and the catalogs were not the only stages .
While it may be that they want the Louvre and Orsay ...

By the way , as presented , or not? And how much ?

This question is for Bugaev , only he can know about it and to present the donation agreement , confirming his words. In any case, the fact of giving other people's works to the museum does not entail recognition that ownership of these works are not for Bugaev not for a museum, and even more so on other works by the same authors . If this donation was the case, Bugaev only casts a shadow on the leadership of the Russian Museum , which has received the gift of the product without testing and not by requesting documents proving his ownership of Bugaev received the gift items .
According to rumors in the early 90s known case of donation Timur Novikov few of the pictures are not Russian Museum , which he then had no place to store , as it some time had none at the studio after his Africa set out their shared studio on Fontanka.

I understand your concern is punctuated by questions that you've already several times quoted , but are preliminary hearings , probably, and they will satisfy your curiosity.
A senior fellow of Bugaev of the newest trends would cost to urge Africa to give these authors a paltry works, and then come up, that the department publishes in his thick exhibition catalogs reproductions of works from the " Collections" of dubious repute and dubious history , while not exposing these works physically that is, to themselves during their exhibitions of these works are missing. The catalog is, and in the halls of the exhibition there .