Vekselberg has accused Christie's in counterfeit trade

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

This week on Wednesday at the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom has begun 19- day hearing on case against Christie's.

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Actually Vakselbergu think it is necessary . With his money , you can create Sotbesu competition in Russia.

[Eriksson]

In London, coming to the end of the court Vekselberg bought the painting at Christie's Kustodiev, which in Russia recognized the forgery.


Listen to the transfer of Vladimir Tolz:


http://www.svobodanews.ru/audio/broa...am/575958.html

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Сообщение от Eriksson; 2109151"

in London is coming to the end of the court to Vekselberg bought the painting at Christie's Kustodiev, which in Russia recognized the forgery.

Eriksson, thanks for the link. Finally, the opportunity to listen to (even in the retelling) of the counter-arguments of the representatives of the auction house. In my opinion, an argument that deserves the most attention is the fact ekponirovaniya paintings on exhibition Riga in 1932. And if you really work at the exhibition were selected for participation N.P.Bogdanova-Belsky - should consider more seriously.
Not in any way questioning the conclusions of our Russian colleagues, let me say that the statement "compilation," the composition is not entirely true. At least - taking into account existing in the collection of the Museum of Yaroslavl true picture Kustodiev, first published elsewhere at the end of 2005 in the album of the series "Masterpieces of Museum Collections." (Do not rule out that some of the experts who wrote the devastating conclusion was not aware of the existence of this figure).
Now - about the length of the arguments about improper chest. Please check out unbiased information stored in the collection of that museum's plaster model of a box, "Merchant's Wife with a cat in a box" in 1923. If we imagine (without the "e" and other fatazy) young woman lay on the chest, it would appear: a box, then - Procrustean! But this is - very fancy Boris Mikhailovich. And there's nothing to not be able to do all of the expert community of our God-protected Homeland ...
The picture seen. Alive. Not a limb (either the upper or lower), the model "from the belly" is not growing. Here is a special section, stood in front of a mirror, en, and I'm from the same place shapely legs grow! (Although the experts, of course, know better ...)
Somehow, in a word ... Sorry for your attention.

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Сообщение от dabbler ; 2126131 '

If we imagine (without the " e " and other fatazy ) young woman lay on the chest , it would appear : a box , then - Procrustean !

That is positive , the reader, a number of cat and Thought - pad. Cat - twice as long . How about a ball will roll dumochke - pleasure to look ! She sleeps , and does not feel any inconvenience ...

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If we imagine (without the " e" and other fatazy ) molodayku put on chest , it appears : the bed is something - Procrustean !

That is positive , the reader , next cat and pillows , pillow. Cat - twice as long . How about a ball will roll up dumochke - pleasure to look! Asleep himself, and does not feel any inconvenience ...

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от Eriksson; 2109151"

in London is coming to the end of the court to Vekselberg bought the painting at Christie's Kustodiev, which in Russia recognized the forgery.

I agree that this is a fake. Here is why. It is not typical for Kustodiev to address this subject. lists all that he painted in such a plot, but it's not "kustodievski" ... his "Beauties" - it is not European "nude" ... Everything he has not. It sticks out like a blanket, decorated with the characteristic wrinkled as a viscous hook pillow pose of these beauties, wallpaper on the walls (which the compiler was not, apparently, the concept) ... What kind of a wall painted with blue paint shabby mirror?
But not only that. The curtain without pattern, lean back as European paintings, rather than hanging on a rope, as in the Russian way of life, who lovingly depict Kustodiev ...
But most importantly - very beautiful ... There is not much of a generalization, which is in all the "beauties" (or the merchant's wife) Kustodiev ...
Compilation is done by drawing Kustodiev "Lying of models" in 1915. (The same year that one of these "beauties") from the museum Brodsky, St. Petersburg. In the picture, this picture is reproduced accurately and where he does not Kustodiev dorisovat arm or leg, the compiler threw a blanket or lowered the curtain ... Repeated hair, but also to draw the correct inclination of the head compiler failed.
Figure Kustodiev published in a monograph about him V.E.Lebedevoy in 1966. (Published in "Science", Moscow.

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Сообщение от dabbler; 2126131"

Eriksson, thanks for the link. Finally, the opportunity to listen to (even in the retelling) of the counter-arguments of the representatives of the auction house. In my opinion, an argument that deserves the most attention is the fact ekponirovaniya paintings on exhibition Riga in 1932. And if you really work at the exhibition were selected for participation N.P.Bogdanova-Belsky - should consider more seriously.

Yes, I also had this interesting. These arguments are not very powerful.
The exhibition in Riga after the death of Kustodiev. The name of the picture is not characteristic of his subjects. Compare - "Russian Venus" (in the bath, with all the realities of Russian bath) ...
It is not known exactly what was involved Bogdanov-Belsky, if he had seen the picture and what he thought about it, if you've seen ... And is it possible to protest ... In addition, the epidemic was still there was no fraud, he could not help but think about it ...
As for colors, you need a very large time gap that they were not as dramatically ...
Sculptural same solution has its own quirks, will not be good to represent the entire required length of the bed ...

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Note : I am in his discussion on anything not insist . Just reasoned . In the future, this topic is not going to continue ( in spite of its obvious and indisputable advantage : I saw the picture , and you, apparently, trying to analyze it with enthusiasm, for the pics on the internet ... ) So I think that the debate meaningless. I - Amateur , you - amateur <! - ~ 7 ~ ->. As we say in the village : the pot on the pot - no oil sobesh .

[Игорь Гурьев]

Tov . Amateur, I do not know whether to read the above my humble opinion.

In my opinion , this picture is written exactly as good Kustodiev.

And, in my opinion, only this is the problem.

That is , suppose someone is persuaded by Picasso, Matisse Derain , or write "under Kustodiev ."
Well , let's say one of them and wrote ...

Maybe someone from the Russian -bags have the impression that once Kutodiev , it is akin to , say, Giotto, Bellini , J. , or, say , Vermeer and Velasquez and Serov.

But it is not.
Boris - my dear artist, but far from terrible zhivopisnago standards of craftsmanship.

This is sad ? but it is.

Kustodiev is rather strange group of artists such as Grigoriev , Yakovleva , Glazunov, Aivazovsky, Shuhaeva and some like these , you know , artists ...

No one is they do not compare with, say, ... um ... Venetsianov or where Le Nain . Well, or there is a ... but oh well ...

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No! It was impossible to resist!

Сообщение от K-Maler; 2127171"

curtain without pattern, lean back as European paintings, rather than hanging on a rope, as in the Russian way of life, who lovingly depict Kustodiev ...

 What, then "Russian way of life", a canopy bed (which you so delicately called the "curtain") hung "on a rope"? Really - a merchant? That you cheated someone. Do not sleep on mats widow, and the mosquitoes in the sacking of hemp rope is not obscured. Canopies preferred - muslin, blankets - satin, quilted in the monasteries, pillows - feather. They are bad, you know, lived ... Dress hats from Paris so prescribed ...
 A "curtain on a string" - is a Maximov. In Korzukhina. In Pryanishnikov. In the peasant genre Lemokh. (You can, I will not continue? And then - a long list of painful, and Kustodiev it anyway - netuti).
 

Сообщение от K-Maler; 2127171"

is not known exactly what was involved Bogdanov-Belsky, if he had seen the picture and what he thought about it, if you've seen ... And is it possible to protest ... In addition, the epidemic was still there was no fraud, he could not help but think about it ...

It is well known. He was curator of the exhibition.
However, what you had in mind, doubting the ability of the master "object" - is also unclear. What's this venerable, and highly respected (I emphasize - very!) Sought after artist in bourgeois fear something in Latvia in 1932? There were none of the notorious Lubyanka dungeons or Defenzivy Polish or Romanian Sigurantsy ubiquitous ...
Well, the last on your application. I think you should not speak so boldly about a subject in which you like to put it mildly ... malosveduyuschi or something ...
Do not think for work, find a magical book Yevgeny Ivanov Platonovich "Label Moscow word", and read it at least a chapter on the antique trade (although the whole book - a miracle as well. First of all - extremely interesting, and secondly - written the true bearer of the culture itself, and thirdly - the material collected in the late 1900s - early 1920s. That is precisely when when your authoritative opinion on the "epidemic of counterfeits has no").
Well, finally, hypothetically, Bogdanov-Belsky could, of course, "Do not think about it." But do not see - hardly. He was a painter, not a painter ...

The rest - no comment.

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Сообщение от K-Maler; 2127171"

as a characteristic hook decorated with crushed viscous pillows

" Tying " - is in knots . Well, or males with females . (The term - official , drinking - it is not forbidden ).
 But on the pillows, excuse me generously, no " hook mating " he has never happened before. If you were referring to pillow - because they were decorated with lace and proshvami . A sheet (it is - just in case) - lace overhangs ... Discussing everyday objects, to be more precise in the definitions . ( Especially since the topic is a bit too attractive. Lady , you can tell ... )
Everything. More - not a word !

[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от dabbler ; 2127401"

A sheet (it is - just in case) - lace overhangs ..

Ah , Comrade Amateur , Amateur Comrade ...

Ought to be softer with opponents.

Do not you know that a valance sheet has nothing to do ?

Valance - is that vertically runs along the bottom of the bed ( on verovochke stretched from right to left nozhke bed nozhke ) from the horizontal , where the sleep , almost to the floor, and be thought himself in the style of Belgian lace ( forgot what , but it's just me plus, that does not show off , Ghent , whether that lace ?) , and then only the bottom and the top is simply a type or tkanko bumazeyko .

Ai- yai -yai , Comrade . Amateur, awkward somehow naschot overhangs ....

[Eriksson]

It suddenly occurred to such a strange idea ... And did not become a commonplace object , the Vakselberg domestic " wiring "? It's necessary to understand how many people earn a good couple of years to prove his pravodu in court: lawyers , critics, journalists and others paid up . After all, they risk nothing - if losers of the process all together umoyut hands , " did everything they could against the scrap .... no reception ...". And so - why did not shake the " bubble " of the nouveau riche ? <! - 6 ~ ~ ->