A good artist - a successful artist?

[Ninni]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

To Ninni:
Since the dead can work more relaxed but at the same time, the road on his journey and if everything is going to think the number of deceased artists will increase and not dead - it will decrease.

S umershimi rabotat 'deistvitel'no spokoinee, mozno planirovat' svoi deistviia, marketing, rashody itd. Sporno to, chto eto proidennyi put ', skoree eto pervootkryvatel'stvo. Do smerti nikto ne interesovalsia, a posle, trudami dilerov i galeristov, pri nalichii dostatochnogo kolichestva proizvedennyh kartin, mozet popast 'v velikie.

Na moi vzgliad, takoe kolichestvo hudoznikov kak seichas ne trebuetsia.
Primer Au: 22 mln naseleniia, 250 tys praktikuiuschih hudoznikov, 500 kommercheskih galerei. Poschitaite chto k chemu.
V USA, esli mne ne izmeniaet pamiat ', okolo 3,5 mln hudoznikov

  Dear AlexanderG, I was a little surprised by your point of view because You work to live and not even very old artists, who can afford not just to change writing style and behavior. You run the risk of love for new creativity or something, I do not understand?
  Living people are always problematic (in any profession) and "archives" do not make claims.
In my opinion - pioneering a much more valuable and noble in the life of a talented artist who must provide the notion of "stimulus" and the reality of "life" in the tolerable limits.
   Always condemning the artist who cares about our daily bread and not only on the eternal values but will never be criticized gallery owner who does not want to support those values.
   Fully agree that so many artists of the world does not need and can not understand why elect such a complex, little thankful profession if no special gift or a stunning love of art?

[L-ana64110]

The artist does not choose a profession is the mentality, character, this does not leave, an illness, an obsession that does not sleep or eat or live "in peace", and also is a great happiness to have their own world, the delight of illumination, the hot thrill of inspiration, everything else again .....

[AlexanderG]

Ninni

Ia rabotaiu professional'no, a ne riskuiu.

In my opinion - pioneering a much more valuable and noble in the life of a talented artist who must provide the notion of "stimulus" and the reality of "life" in the tolerable limits.

Tsenno dlia kogo?

Always condemning the artist who cares about our daily bread

Ne soglasen v korne. Professional vsegda ob etom zabotitsia. Eto opredeliaet professionala - make living out of his job (doslovno perevesti slozno).

Mozno eto dal'she razvit ', a mozet daze vydelit' v temu, chto takoe professional'nyi hudoznik.

but never to be criticized gallery owner who does not want to support these values

Galerist ne dolzen podderzivat 'tsennosti, eto rabota metsenatov, inogda gosudarstva, inogda korporatsii. Galerist sozdaet usloviia po svedeniiu etogo vsego vmeste.

I can not understand why elect such a complex, little thankful profession if no special gift or a stunning love of art?

Sam ne ponimaiu do kontsa, no nekotorye idei - legche chem kopat ', modno, naivnost' i nezrelost 'itd.

[Самвел]

I think that the artist should be free only in freedom can create works of art, freedom not in terms of politichesskogo regime or another, and freedom of spirit, I see examples of that for professional artists, give way to artists of the spirit, vsetaki excellent job and it adheres to some rules, and it is no longer complete freedom. Freedom where he is with himself, even if it will be half an hour a day, but these half an hour it will be completely free in their thoughts, in imagination, etc. Think the impossible, is not a disease.

[LCR]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

Ne soglasen v korne. Professional vsegda ob etom zabotitsia. Eto opredeliaet professionala - make living out of his job (doslovno perevesti slozno).

Hence, what some of Van Gogh or Filonov (which I myself can not stand, but which is considered a great artist and that is expensive - is it not an argument for curator?) In the professional record does not, as they have never lived on the money from his work

Сообщение от AlexanderG

Sam ne ponimaiu do kontsa, no nekotorye idei - legche chem kopat ', modno, naivnost' i nezrelost 'itd.

"It's easier than digging, fashionable naiveté" - and that's all you found?

Do not get me wrong: I believe that the profession of gallery owners is necessary, honorable, and deservedly prestigious, but do not forget that a product, selling gallerist whose livelihood depends on, is created - or, if you prefer, is - an artist, that is, he stands in on your well-being.
After all, at the very least, for lack of gallerist artist can just go outside (or go to the trading house Sotheby's - so, too, happened not so long ago, is not it?) And sell their work, bypassing the gallery, and gallery owner, without the artist's need to retraining as superintendent. This, I think, to remember.
All I ask of you, Alexander, is a little less condescension and contempt for your breadwinner

[Jasmin]

Artist - not a profession but a state of mind. That is why so many bad artists, that they choose a painting or graphics, as a profession, and their soul to this is not intended. Talent can not be bought or "drink away" ... It is given by nature, but against nature is not "arguing" ...

[iosif]

LCR,
Given that basically agree, I think that the artist gallery owner, still not the breadwinner. As well as a gallery owner and artist.
(I am talking only about the Earth (unearthly - that is another question.) And of an earthly success (both tangible and intangible: for with "unsuccessful" work of an artist simply remain an unknown, as if it was not at all)).
So, in this formulation of the problem no one no one provider. Artist and gallery owner - it is just "sweet couple," sworn friends, brothers-robbers, Siamese twins - both want to call it - doomed to a life interaction. With all associated with it, joys and neglect.
P.S. Yesterday I handed in publishing the novel, where in particular, dealt with this issue. With some fear sent him to Igor Sapunkovu on "internal review" - we build relationships with them not quick and easy. Today he unsubscribed, which agrees with the above, rather than disagree.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от iosif

Yesterday I handed in publishing the novel, where in particular, dealt with this issue. With some fear sent him to Igor Sapunkovu on "internal review" - we build relationships with them not quick and easy. Today he unsubscribed, which agrees with the above, rather than disagree.

That's interesting. Be printed?

[iosif]

Cyril Syzransky,
I think so. Advance paid for long ago

[Кирилл Сызранский]

iosif, then I'll read your novel is mandatory.
Buy and read it.