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[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от Vivien

will be unique in the field of investment in art resource. As before their arrival.

Do you think?

Question here, in my opinion, even in the new forum users.

They usually come to the waves, and if the next wave of hours late, then develops a common situation: everyone knows each other, all more or less favored - and formed a natural zatihalovo.

[dedulya37]

Merkel: The Politics of the multi-cult "failed

In Germany, turned the battle of a different kind and it looks like she lost. Attempts to Berlin to build a multi-cultural society have failed miserably. This honestly she Chancellor Angela Merkel. Her announcement came a month after the controversial resignation of the head of the Bundesbank. In his book, Tilo Sarratsin speaks openly about the threat posed to German immigrants - Muslims.

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Thilo Saracen can be satisfied: in terms of impact on people's minds, he certainly - the politician of the year. His book, "Germany self-destructs" pierced the wall of silence around the national question, and now and the federal chancellor, who recently criticized the sharpness of the Saracen, almost quoted him as saying before the youth in the CDU, while recognizing the failure of a 50-year migration policy, which in Germany dubbed the "multi -stump.

"In Frankfurt am Main is now two out of three children - children of migrants. In early 1960, our country has invited foreign workers in Germany, and now they live here. For some time we have been deceived themselves, and said to himself: "They have no will, someday they will leave." But it did not happen. And, of course, our approach was multi-kulturalizme, that we will live together and appreciate each other. This approach has failed, utterly failed, "- noted German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

Invited to work in Germany, hundreds of thousands of cheap Turkish workers, West German policy of the 60's, of course, did not suspect that will come a time when schools are children who speak a pure German, will become outcasts, as happened with the 15-year-old teenager from Berlin Neukölln district.

"Only in the class had 29 students. Besides myself, another girl was German. Others - the Arabs and Turks. During the break we did not go into the yard and remained in the classroom. Even the teachers could not protect me from my classmates. They simply did not listen to anybody, "- says a student in Berlin School eighth-grade Demitsian.

For 50 years, a variety of dialects of German language was enriched by Kanak-Deutsche. On this German-Turkish surzhik and say migrant neighborhood of Berlin. The most striking example of successful integration is the player of the national football team Misut Ozil. But with such a profession of words, in general, do not need much. For all other visiting German authorities are only now zasobiralsya introduction of a mandatory language exam.

"Those who want to integrate into our society must not only comply with laws and adhere to the Constitution. They must first learn our language "- continued to Angela Merkel.

Turkish Prime Minister also urges compatriots to Germany to learn German, but is it enough for the cultural bond? All categorical Leader of kin CDU Christian Socialist Union Seehofer: "Germany no longer needs an influx of migrants from Turkey and Arab countries." Since the ruling waited for the same label that had pasted itself to the Saracens.

"Mr. Seehofer reinforces these ideas and makes them socially acceptable. It's the same idea, which use ultra-right-wing populists "- the head of the Greens in the German Bundestag, Jürgen Trittin.

Subject ceases to be marginalized when it start to discuss on every corner and in every newspaper. Merkel, perhaps, and did not want to develop a discussion initiated by the Saracens, but ignore the public mood would be a big mistake. And if you can not stop something, then it must lead.

90 years ago, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk gave the Turks a secular state in which they now live. And still continue talking about his connection with the German intelligence service, so Turkey was among the German satellites. Oh well for themselves, with the current population dynamics through 3-4 generations chancellor of Germany can be an ethnic Turk. Will he speak German without an accent?

http://news.mail.ru/politics/4618405/

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Сообщение от dedulya37

Merkel: The Politics of the multi-cult "failed

... With the current demographic dynamics through 3-4 generations of the German chancellor could be ethnic Turks. Will he speak German without an accent?
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http://news.mail.ru/politics/4618405/

And will remain there in Germany, ethnic Germans?

On Russia, I better not say anything.

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от "Inquisitive

On Russia, I better not say anything.

In Russia, ethnic Germans just will not stay.

[sergejnowo]

Сообщение от "dedulya37

after 3-4 generations of the German chancellor could be ethnic Turks.
Will he speak German without an accent?

Will be finite.

Children of any nationality, born in Germany, speak without an accent

[Самвел]

Сообщение от Vivien; 1338081"

The great empires of antiquity perished not from the lost battle or disaster, but primarily because of migration to these countries racially alien to foreigners, mass migration from replying to their hybrids completely lost the public instinct, loyalty to the Motherland, concerns about its fate.

This is only a consequence. The reasons are many, but one of them, it feminize the elite, I thought this Jean-Jacques Rousseau, and can not disagree with that. Valiant Rome, began to organize a feast, then clothes, spices, gold dvrotsy, gladiator fights, and, accordingly, the barbarians came and just took it all. Christianity runs the East, and once again begin to build everything from scratch, and created the Byzantine Empire, in power little inferior to Rome, tezhe rake Elite starts kayfovat who gets pereplyunet palace, or arranging a fine penalty, the same thing befell the Byzantine Empire, came to the people respectively, and arranged a stall in the church of Hagia Sophia (Aya Sofia). Christianity runs north to Russia. Moscow the Third Rome. And it all begins again almost from scratch and created another great Russian empire and later the Soviet Union. alas, but repeated that the current situation followed by two similar way. The last stage of this process, it is swill destruction of civilization, one part of it, m e Christian civilization, because the elite do not know than to amuse himself by arranging same-sex marriages, and strangely enough art, too, has a devastating effect, the Western auctions selling killed the fish, or some kind of stain for millions of dollars. I watched the movie with the auction at Christie's and sold my work of Warhol, Accident green machine, can someone have this movie, set it. This whole theater, talks about deterioration of morals.

[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от Samvel

Christianity runs north to Russia.

Important clarification: Eastern Christianity.
And then not running.
Greeks and Serbs have been Orthodox, and remained under Turkish rule.

A general notion of Christianity first is connected with Western Europe - at least, because who defeated Rome, the barbarians have become Christians, when there is no more in Russia did not exist.

[Самвел]

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

Important clarification: Eastern Christianity.
And then not running.
Greeks and Serbs have been Orthodox, and remained under Turkish rule.

Clarification made, I just described the chronology of events, important details were many, but as I can cram everything into a small message. If Rome became a Christian, then have not yet been Islam, the Byzantine cross was replaced Crescent.

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

A general notion of Christianity first is connected with Western Europe - at least, because who defeated Rome, the barbarians have become Christians, when there is no more in Russia did not exist.

I never wrote that time was Russia.

[Игорь Гурьев]

Hmm.
And where do we Comrade Cyril Syzransky?

I have a proposal that just will not work, but "sound" of it I would have wanted.

Should be given to Comrade. Syzran moderator powers, but with one condition: to rub just mindless trolls pestering him.

I think Comrade Syzransky - tested friend, he does not transcend the chalk-cut terms of reference.

And the problem will be resolved by itself: the trolls are on the forum, and traces of their harassment to Comrade. Syzran will not.

And fellow moderators less work.

[Fed]

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

Syzransky - tested friend, he does not transcend outlined Chalk Circle

You have painted a terrible picture.
 "For the third night seminarian Homa Brut read prayers in the old church over the grave of the deceased daughter of Pan, outlining a range of chalk on the floor. The first two nights of the witch rose from the grave and walked alongside, creating black spells, but can not cross the line."