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Старый 08.01.2013, 12:17 Язык оригинала: Русский       #201
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self-consciousness?
No.

Why "no"?
Self-consciousness is formed of the images, and they have inhabited the same territory-edge is more or less similar.

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in the short-list

short-list Is not there in Russian!
The short list.
Look for the idea of ​​a foreign language for the Russians!




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Старый 08.01.2013, 13:00 Язык оригинала: Русский       #202
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I wonder how the French would react to a picture -frog with a bottle of wine in one hand and a cheese - to another .
I agree 100 %- this is not a national idea, and a caricature. And most of the "concept " is not really an idea, but a caricature of himself /country.
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Small nations and territories expect no relief from giving center
And here is the big question - is it . What a strange marriage of convenience? We will give you a piece of candy , and you give us the friendship (okay to love) ? But the center of this friendship why ( love is certainly not)?
Marriage of convenience implies a certain mutual benefit , benefit.
But. Geopolitics is all - whether to discuss it here in the theme art concepts?

The national idea is that Russia gives the world . In Soviet times it - equality .
Now that 's what I mean.



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Старый 08.01.2013, 13:10 Язык оригинала: Русский       #203
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is that Russia gives the world

Russia gives Miru



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Старый 08.01.2013, 14:05 Язык оригинала: Русский       #204
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What a strange marriage of convenience? We will give you a piece of candy , and you give us the friendship (okay to love) ? But the center of this friendship why ( love is certainly not )?
Problem - that candy comes from the mother countries. Center needed to generate the general living conditions of normal or even law.
And in a country where the solid Nat. Education and territory , and without conditions and rights?
You have to be optimistic to look rosy for the future of the country, or as Prokhanov to believe in miracles.



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Старый 08.01.2013, 15:19 Язык оригинала: Русский       #205
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We will candy, and you give us the friendship (okay to love)?
This is about what you "candy"?
About this?
          
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We were approached Salimgerey Temirgereevich Huseynov, a resident of Khasavyurt, with the following:

          December 28, 2012 at 8:00 am I got a call from the phone number of my cousin, Kugieva Rasul Basirovicha, 1969g.r., His eight-year-daughter, Kugieva Fatima, and said that his father was killed, and the house in which they live in the village Chontaul, Kizilyurt district, surrounded by armed men in armored vehicles. Some time later, Fatima called again and said she and her mother, Aysultanova Raisat Ibragimovna, born in 1985, killed.
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From 8:00 am to about 11:00, I call back periodically to Fatima. She said that they are not allowed to go out, not even allowed to go to the kitchen to get a drink of water. Fatima said she shot the window of the room where she was a younger brother Kugievym Suleiman, 08.07. 2007 born, Abu Bakr, born 13.10.2012, and his sister Farida, born 11.7.2009

          I'm to that point in the road, near the town of Borisoglebsk. On the same day, I went back to Dagestan. 30.12.12 in the morning I was in Khasavyurt, and ended up at the funeral and Rasul Raisat. After the funeral, the late afternoon, I saw the children.

          According to them, I learned more about what happened:

          December 28 morning, when they went to the morning prayer, I heard some rustling Raisat in the garden and told her husband that he may go, see what was going on, a few minutes later shots rang out, followed by Raisat ran into the street and just a few meters from the gate to the garden, found her husband, who was already dead, then she ran home and called an ambulance, then called her mother, told the children that the father was killed, and that they did not fit the window, took a blanket and ran. Fatima and Suleiman also ran after her, since their words, I learned that at a time when their mother's father wrapped in a blanket, two meters away stood armed men who fired and killed Raisat, at that time was about 7 am. After that spotlights lit children why they were frightened and ran into the room and did not come out.

          Gathered around the house a lot of people, including close family members, law enforcement officers, namely, the district police chief and the police chief of FSB for Kizilyurt district investigator RMWS Kizilyurt district, were also members of the district and village meetings Kizilyurt district, the head of the village administration Chontaul. Despite such a gathering of people who are not able to take the children out of the house until 12.30 pm. For military and law enforcement officials came as relatives and representatives of the administration, but they were not going to touch anyone.

          After one brother Rasul, Alex, went to the house with a helmet equipped with a video camera and showed the military the whole house, and went to war for yourself that nothing and no one inside, family members, no. Only after all these procedures, children released from the house.

          Herself the eldest girl, Fatima, all the while the raid was in touch with me, it is very firmly held, apparently, she was not aware yet of the state of shock that happens. About 11 hours when she asked me, "Uncle, take us out of here." However, it is also said that the youngest child is crying from hunger, senior kept as they could. In order to calm the child, Fatima, poured a bottle of water and gave him. Already after a few days passed, Fatima had a heart attack, it was taken to the hospital, the diagnosis in our hands is not yet available. The other children are moving away from the incident, and we are also examining them in the near future.

          Already in the media, we learned that Raisat and Rasul presented as guerrillas who resisted, they wrote, they found weapons and cartridges, although, of course, this is a shameless, cynical lie.

          Relatives of those killed were able to enter the house, after the military lifted the cordon. The first thing they saw: a table for which "feasted" military, bottles of liquor, a refrigerator, which did not have any products other than the house was a large amount of money in the amount of 300 thousand rubles, which is also missing. All rooms have been fired, there are traces of bullets, prostrelyannoe linens. In the room where the children were also detected one hole from a bullet that is fired randomly and that no children were in, it was quite by accident. My cousin, Rasul, and his wife, Raisat have not been involved in what is stated in the media, they did cupping (cupping therapy), also at home Rasul was a small shop, where you make a small bunk beds for our customers.


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And here's another "candy".
MOSCOW , January 6. /ITAR -TASS /. Russian Emergencies Ministry plane carries metal stoves for the population of Tuva, where there are problems with the heating.

"At 6:29 MSK with Moscow airport " Ramenskoye "flew IL-76 Russian Emergencies Ministry with 200 small stoves on board" - told the Russian Emergency Situations Ministry information department .

In that "candy" everything perfectly : XXI century, plane MOE delivers 200 stoves burzhuek to far Tuvan village ( and the distance in a straight line - distance flight by plane - between Moscow and Kyzyl still 3660 km), where the accident people were left without heat at -40 degrees for half a month already.

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And here's another "candy".
MOSCOW , January 6. /ITAR -TASS /. Russian Emergencies Ministry plane carries metal stoves for the population of Tuva, where there are problems with the heating.
"At 6:29 MSK with Moscow airport " Ramenskoye "flew IL-76 Russian Emergencies Ministry with 200 small stoves on board" - told the Russian Emergency Situations Ministry information department .


In that "candy" everything perfectly : XXI century, plane MOE delivers 200 stoves burzhuek a distant village Tuvan Khovu -Aqsa ( the distance in a straight line - distance flight by plane - between Moscow and Kyzyl still 3660 miles ), where the accident people were left without heat at -40 degrees for two weeks already.

Moscow to the rescue! With " sweet " ...
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You have to be optimistic to look rosy for the future of the country

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Moscow to the rescue!
With "sweet" ..
Once again you are about politics, and the theme of "national idea."

While it may be our national idea - a constant struggle with devastation?



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in their heads ...

Collecting material for repairs.



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All that is connected with Putin postponed here.



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The national idea is that Russia gives the world.
In Soviet times it - equality.
The ability to sacrifice for the unparalleled feat of nobility, the folly (even "maybe").
As in the song: restless fate, well, why to get stronger, we need trouble.
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